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wow, they look awesome, I'll buy 2 packs!

Orinoco wrote:the reason they look werid is that the torso is contempor pattern but the legs are maximus pattern and the helmet. compare a maximus marine and you'll see the similarity. They're obviously supposed to be pre heresy due to the era of the armour as maximus is pre heresy.

Tactical Dreadnought Armour, or Terminator Armour as it is more usually known, is the most resilient form of personal protection available to the Adeptus Astartes. Originally developed during the closing years of the Great Crusade, and adapted from the heaviest of industrial gear, several types and patterns were developed concurrently.

Of these, the Indomitus pattern is perhaps the most widespread, due to its template being held on key Forge Worlds such as Mars, although Tartaros Pattern Terminator armour is also issued to the Veterans of a Chapter’s 1st Company. Perhaps the most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnought Armour, the Tartaros pattern shares many systems with the MkIV ‘Maximus’ pattern of power armour, and provides greater mobility for its wearer than the Indomitus pattern with no loss in durability or protection.

I wonder if FW will go so far as giving these a different set of rule from the standard terminators. Maybe they can pursue.

torso and weapons look cool ...the rest looks boring
GW plastic termis are way cooler

I like them, after my Wolves are done I'll get a pack or two.

I didn't like the contemptor at first, and still not a huge fan of it next to modern marine armor, but next to older style armor it is awesome. These might be the same, as I love mark iv armor and have a full battle company of mark iv that these may be joining soon.

I dislike the near spherical torso which I also dislike about the contemptor dread.

Pacific wrote:

Pacifc - thanks for that picture!

I'm always looking for additional Pre-Heresy/Heresy stuff, and that is a good one for the archives!

And a good example of what I hope FW eventually releases.

Goes to show how personal taste is - I really like the Tartaros, but loathe the image above.

Ah, but if you had followed pre-heresy from the beginning card game and collected visions book Slinky maybe you would have a different view? They are one of the key elements of pre-heresy, as much as white World Eaters and Emperor's Children carrying the Aquila

Here are some more pics, I think a lot of people aren't aware of the 'true' pre-heresy terminator as it was originally envisaged. There is so much material here for a sculptor to use (as they did indeed with the other armour marks!) I put in spoiler tags to not de-rail the thread!



If you like this art, I thoroughly recommend the Horus Heresy: Collected Visions book (now available as an anthology), the book that started the whole pre-heresy thing!

Thanks for the effort to try and convert me

Still not a fan, though

I collected all those artbooks and I didn't like the cataphracti patterm. I my opinion the John Blanche concept is the best. I find the individual tweeks to the design that happened with all the other renditions leave something to be desired. For example the John Blanche concept leaves the head looking like it can move around a bit, while it has the same gorget its not necessarily fixed to the chest plate, as its drawn in the others. The shoulder pads aren't as broad and actually conform to the general downward slope of a persons neck line into their shoulder... all the others show them as stiffer plates that extend off the shoulder by about a foot to each side.

I hate to say this, but anyone else notice they kind of look like StarCraft Marines?

Those Ultramarine ones are great.

Friend of mine did an Iron Warriors army where all the Terminators are in that style of armour. Looked boss.

I like them.I will have to have a chat at my flgs and see if they can get me a pack or 2 and a contemptor for in-game support.

ShatteredBlade wrote:I hate to say this, but anyone else notice they kind of look like StarCraft Marines?

Thats quite circular an idea... see as I think StarCraft Marines look like Space Marines.

It really comes down to the fact that Blizzard in developing SC was inspired heavily by the aesthetic of 40k. Warcraft was even presented in Alpha phase developement as proposed Warhammer game, which just emmohasize the root in stylistic choice. I think its perfectly legitamite, but saying one thing looks like another in this way is always a bit silly. Proportions is 50% of how common somethings look, and the greatest source of commonality. If there are details you think are similar, thats a different issue, but it requires more specificity that "they kinda look like".

To see a similarity you have to ignore that Tartaros pattern armor has straight greaves not ones that conform more to the shape of the leg. You have to ignore differences, in helmet, weapon, and insignia. You have to ignore the differences in power packs, and the absence of chest vents on the Tartarus.... etc. They are similar because they are proportionally similar human shaped figures covered in similar amounts of armor, beyond that its largely different.

This looks like a forge world attempt at producing true scale marines for TS fans. Then quickly labeling it as terminators last minute.

I don't think that's the case at all.

GW/FW have long believed that marines are in the correct scale and it is perhaps the only ranges which have maybe... bloated a bit.

FW's IG line is a good example of figures that are closer to what they "should" be.

ShatteredBlade wrote:I hate to say this, but anyone else notice they kind of look like StarCraft Marines?

Yep. they mose determinately carry the Terran aesthetics especially the rounded shoulders and how it encases the head area

Red Corsair wrote:This looks like a forge world attempt at producing true scale marines for TS fans. Then quickly labeling it as terminators last minute.

Uh, lol? How do they look like true scale marines at all? I think you have your tin foil hat on backwards.

kronk wrote:I think they rock! But then, I really like the Contemptor Dreadnought and these remind me of them.

I'll have a unit of 10, I think.

Also marines that don't look like they've been smeared in glue and dipped in a vat of skulls. Kind of like that.