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The Khan attached to a command squad on bikes will be SICK!

Apothecary (FNP), Standard Bearer, Champion, etc.

It's the only way to have bikes and still have pistol/CCW, which can be upgraded to just about anything.

So you could have a 5 bike squad led by the Khan,... FNP, Furious Charge, they can all have 3+ Storm Shield, 1 Lightning Claw, and Plasma pistols!

Granted that is a bit extreme, but hey....

Oh, I think they are also the only squad where the unit members can still all take melta bombs. (I am really going to miss this from the assault squad!!! - Argh).

Ok, so the pricing on the new stuff is totally off too.. insanity prevails.

15 pts for 3+ invuln saves, now why does anyone use anything but invuln saves..

Jumpsquads for 20 a pop, with 2 attacks base and assult on DS turn, not to mention the horredous options. Every model can run around with whatever you want.

Bikes for 25 would be a bargin, but I guess they are a bit overpriced compared to the jumppackers...

Hellfury wrote:Nicest thing I noticed (for me anyways) is that terminators can use the combat squad rule, so you can have six 5 man termies squads.

Not quite deathwing, but not bad.

Now if only you could deep strike combat squad'd termies.

Stelek wrote:Now if only you could deep strike combat squad'd termies.

You can. Nowhere in the combat squad rules does it say you can't do this. In the terminator armour rules, it says "Any model wearing Terminator armour can be teleported onto the battlefield. They may always start the game in reserve and arrive using the deep strike rules, even if it is not part of the mission being played."

The only exception in the combat squad rules concerns drop pods. It says that a squad deployed via Drop Pod can still split into combat squads when it disembarks.

Kallbrand wrote:Ok, so the pricing on the new stuff is totally off too.. insanity prevails.

You ever seen those anti-smoking commercials, with the big neon sign 'Crazyland'?

I swear they are GW ad spots.

Lormax wrote:

Stelek wrote:Now if only you could deep strike combat squad'd termies.

You can. Nowhere in the combat squad rules does it say you can't do this. In the terminator armour rules, it says "Any model wearing Terminator armour can be teleported onto the battlefield. They may always start the game in reserve and arrive using the deep strike rules, even if it is not part of the mission being played."

The only exception in the combat squad rules concerns drop pods. It says that a squad deployed via Drop Pod can still split into combat squads when it disembarks.

Welcome to humorville.

It was a dig at the Dark Angels Codex.

Stelek wrote:

Lormax wrote:

Stelek wrote:Now if only you could deep strike combat squad'd termies.

You can. Nowhere in the combat squad rules does it say you can't do this. In the terminator armour rules, it says "Any model wearing Terminator armour can be teleported onto the battlefield. They may always start the game in reserve and arrive using the deep strike rules, even if it is not part of the mission being played."

The only exception in the combat squad rules concerns drop pods. It says that a squad deployed via Drop Pod can still split into combat squads when it disembarks.

Welcome to humorville.

It was a dig at the Dark Angels Codex.

Ahh, context missed by myself. I'll leave the info there for people that don't know about it

Hands off my DA codex :(

Winning with DA is going to become the new pimp...

"I owned you and my CMLs only shoot half as much as yours..."

Actually, I found the potential cover for the rumored updated Dark Angel codex. Pretty nifty.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1020048&prodId=prod1550002

Kallbrand wrote:Jumpsquads for 20 a pop, with 2 attacks base and assult on DS turn, not to mention the horredous options. Every model can run around with whatever you want.

Assault marines with jump packs, 1 base attack, and no special rules for assaulting on the turn the Deep Strike are 190 for 10, and that includes a sergeant (with no special weapons).

Assault marines who can assault after deep striking and have 2 base attacks are 325 for 10, including a sergeant (who still gets 2 base attacks) with a power sword. Note that while you can buy Vanguard for 225 for 10, that's without jump packs and the "assault after deep strike" rule requires them to pay 10 points each for jump packs.

Rated G wrote:Actually, I found the potential cover for the rumored updated Dark Angel codex. Pretty nifty.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1020048&prodId=prod1550002

Good one!

(And probably spot on...)

i only have one word....... so cheasey

Okay, since the "mr. pirate" pictures of the codex have been removed, would someone take a moment at tell me if Rhinos still come with a stormbolter by default and a second pintle mounted stormbolter as an upgrade?

They do and they do. In that order.

BYE

yes,....

Rhino, SB, Smoke, and Search Light all for just 35 pts!

AND Dozer blades work at any speed now. Also note that you can move at any speed through terrain and only have to roll once for dangerous terrain

Dammit! Vindies come with a stormbolter as well. Guess that means that I'll have to stick one onto my Spiky "Loyalist" marines. Can I chose not to have it, and get a point off or something?

Anyone know what a seige shield does? Its an upgrade for Vindicators, im guessing +1 to top armour?

Siege shield's make Vindi's immune to dangerous terrain tests

Arihiman wrote:i only have one word....... so cheasey

I was going to point out that what you wrote is actually two words, but then I realized that "cheasey" isn't a word so I guess you're right.

Lowinor wrote:Assault marines with jump packs, 1 base attack, and no special rules for assaulting on the turn the Deep Strike are 190 for 10, and that includes a sergeant (with no special weapons).

10 raptors with an aspiring champion cost 215 pts. Aside from an additional pt of Ld they have exactly the same stats. +25 pts for +1 Ld? Sounds fair to me.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Arihiman wrote:i only have one word....... so cheasey

I was going to point out that what you wrote is actually two words, but then I realized that "cheasey" isn't a word so I guess you're right.

That just made my morning

Cheasey is a word, it's a proper noun.

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Cheasey-family-history-uk.ashx

Lormax wrote:Siege shield's make Vindi's immune to dangerous terrain tests

Its things like this that make really annoyed! Well, in a few years perhaps i'll see a shield like that for my Angels...


//Edge

Hmm... Vindicators with big shields, and only one of them has rules. Yeah, definately less confusing than a 1 page FAQ.

BYE

Kilkrazy wrote:Cheasey is a word, it's a proper noun.

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Cheasey-family-history-uk.ashx

Well by that logic I could claim that "blarpholine" is a word - or at least it will be once I legally change my name to Mr. Blarpholine.

Not really. Cheasey has been around for hundreds of years and has heritage. That's different from a word you just decided to make up.

I dare you to go ahead and do it!!!11!

blinky wrote:Dammit! Vindies come with a stormbolter as well. Guess that means that I'll have to stick one onto my Spiky "Loyalist" marines. Can I chose not to have it, and get a point off or something?

Anyone know what a seige shield does? Its an upgrade for Vindicators, im guessing +1 to top armour?

It always has come with the stormbolter

Tactical squads are 90 pts and SM's are +16 pts each. Tigurius is 230 pts.

One thing that really pulled a 180 are dreadnoughts. They no longer come equipped with assault cannons as standard. They are 105 pts and are equiped with a Multi-Melta, close combat weapon w/ storm bolter, smoke, and searchlight. Assault cannon is a +10 pt upgrade.

Why did the termies loose their 5+ invul save?

Wait, what?

Ozymandias, King of Kings