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2014/03/29 23:58:57
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
The main thing we get from this is that Commissars start out at 25, and Lord Commissars start at 65.
So Commissars are 10pts cheaper and Lord Commissars are 5pts cheaper. Wonder if they've changed the rules for them at all.
They certainly did, both are initiative 3 now. And I thought Commissars had 2 wounds. But they do get refractor fields.
Nope, wrong on both accounts. Basic Commissars were previously 1 wound and both the Commissar and Lord Commissar have previously been Ini3. The stat lines are identical to the current Commissar/Lord Commissar.
I was more talking about whether the special rules had changed or whether GW just thought Commissars were too expensive previously and lowered the pts with no change.
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2014/03/30 00:06:31
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
Got a gift card today and used it to pre-order the stormtrooper codex. I will be pissed if it says "reference the AM for rules" crap.
But it was free.
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
2014/03/30 00:08:06
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
I could live with that model, easier than the taurox
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
2014/03/30 02:00:02
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
Peregrine wrote: Your problem is you're looking at it from the perspective of someone who wants to have fun, and that means you aren't playing the game the right way. GW doesn't sell any commissar models with dual pistols, so the option has to be removed. Buy your Citadel™ Fine™Cast™ Commissar™ with Power™ Sword™ and be happy that you are allowed to use such amazing Games™ Workshop™ Products™.
And this is why I never bother with WYSIWYG for heroes. It's not just that I have to buy a new miniature, it's that I want to play the cool looking officer I bought and painted years ago and not having to change because GW decides I'm not playing the right way.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
2014/03/30 02:08:37
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
According to the BRB all models that carry two pistols automatically receive the Gunslinger rule.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
2014/03/30 02:31:12
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
How big do you think the taurox is? Looking at the sprue pics looks like it is about he size of a chimera. The top down shot with the storm bolter seems to line up with this. Seems small to me.
2014/03/30 03:49:04
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
Eww. Normally once I see some proper pics of models from GW it dulls the awfulness of some sculpts. With the stormtroopers though they just look worse. The armour is way too chunky and looks very Chaosy with that trim aroun the edges. I am however impressed with the model that managed to balance that massive coat on his shoulders though...
Taurox is stupid both because it looks like a warthog and the fact that it matches nothing currently in the IG arsenal.
Also the fact that GW had the audacity to release a codex around a 5-man kit is gross. It wouldn't be so bad if the book didn't cost $60 on its own.
Wow, aren't I a bundle of joy today! Watching three seasons of An Idiot Abroad must have rubbed off on me...
Commander Cain wrote: Eww. Normally once I see some proper pics of models from GW it dulls the awfulness of some sculpts. With the stormtroopers though they just look worse. The armour is way too chunky and looks very Chaosy with that trim aroun the edges. I am however impressed with the model that managed to balance that massive coat on his shoulders though...
Taurox is stupid both because it looks like a warthog and the fact that it matches nothing currently in the IG arsenal.
Also the fact that GW had the audacity to release a codex around a 5-man kit is gross. It wouldn't be so bad if the book didn't cost $60 on its own.
Wow, aren't I a bundle of joy today! Watching three seasons of An Idiot Abroad must have rubbed off on me...
I've been equally confounded. The only thing I can come up with is they think that we'll by anything, along with 13 year old kids with too much money. I keep waiting to get excited, but instead I'm disappointed, and go back to painting other companies models...
Frogstar 101st Mechanized Guard
2014/03/30 04:39:54
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
Crud. I thought I'd picked up two boxes of STs ages ago to eventually go with my Elysians...I just checked, and they're Kasrkin. Not bad models, but VERY Cadian.
2014/03/30 05:00:05
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
Peregrine wrote: Your problem is you're looking at it from the perspective of someone who wants to have fun, and that means you aren't playing the game the right way. GW doesn't sell any commissar models with dual pistols, so the option has to be removed. Buy your Citadel™ Fine™Cast™ Commissar™ with Power™ Sword™ and be happy that you are allowed to use such amazing Games™ Workshop™ Products™.
And this is why I never bother with WYSIWYG for heroes. It's not just that I have to buy a new miniature, it's that I want to play the cool looking officer I bought and painted years ago and not having to change because GW decides I'm not playing the right way.
M.
That is an odd stance to take. "I don't bother using a meltagun on my storm bolter captain despite always using the former and never the later because there is a chance that the combigrav gun that was just introduced might get taken away in 5 years." an obvious sarcastic example. Sure some loadouts get worse or better but it's fairly rare for one that isn't really fringe to go the way of the dodo. Dual pistols is frankly an uncommon loadout and I have a single model who uses it in over 20,000pts I own and likely the 20k that I've sold over the years... Cypher. Other than a deathwing apothecary who lost his powerfist, I can't think of a single model I've owned that needed to be changed with an edition flip. If anything, 40k and GW has been very nice in that regard as long as you ignore the obvious outliers like whole armies and units (squats, LATD, nid spore pods, etc).
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2014/03/30 05:01:33
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
BrookM wrote: Digital edition is now also on pre-order with some nice art previews:
Single-use, disposable bionics?
Single-use.
Disposable.
Bionics!?!?
"Doc, DOC! I just lost my arm!"
"Don't worry, let me install you a single-use, disposable replacement bionic arm!"
**Jams tree branch in the stump**
"Thanks Doc; I'm ready for action now!"
"For the EMPRAH!"
I think they mean it isn't a proper bionic arm (like one that would have been installed by a techpriest), but instead a temporary replacement arm that's meant to last until the wounded receives proper treatment.
It probably has limited run time or is weaker or something.
Yep. Pretty clear it's a limited-use field replacement. Like a bionic eye, or whatever. Probably not a whole arm, you'd struggle to fit that in there.
We're taking this too seriously.
Or they're taking it too lightly; even with your eye example, you think jamming some metallic ball in some bloody eye socket will suddenly allow someone to see? got to connect the nerves and everything else, which requires surgery...or are disposable bionics like a pirate's hook or a wooden toe (peg leg)?
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2014/03/30 05:22:00
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
Maybe temp bionics are just a way of stemming the flow of blood and stopping the wounded person from going into shock?
Miguelsan wrote: And this is why I never bother with WYSIWYG for heroes. It's not just that I have to buy a new miniature, it's that I want to play the cool looking officer I bought and painted years ago and not having to change because GW decides I'm not playing the right way.
Whereas I take the opposite view: It's a chance to make a cool new model.
That's why I like the Deathwatch RPG so much. I can basically go kit-bash happy and make whatever I want. Last week I made a Howling Griffon Marine with a Jump Pack and two Grav Pistols. Why? 'Cause I can!
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Maybe temp bionics are just a way of stemming the flow of blood and stopping the wounded person from going into shock?
Miguelsan wrote: And this is why I never bother with WYSIWYG for heroes. It's not just that I have to buy a new miniature, it's that I want to play the cool looking officer I bought and painted years ago and not having to change because GW decides I'm not playing the right way.
Whereas I take the opposite view: It's a chance to make a cool new model.
That's why I like the Deathwatch RPG so much. I can basically go kit-bash happy and make whatever I want. Last week I made a Howling Griffon Marine with a Jump Pack and two Grav Pistols. Why? 'Cause I can!
I fully endorse this rule of cool philosophy.
Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions.
2014/03/30 05:39:21
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
BrookM wrote: Digital edition is now also on pre-order with some nice art previews:
Single-use, disposable bionics?
Single-use.
Disposable.
Bionics!?!?
"Doc, DOC! I just lost my arm!"
"Don't worry, let me install you a single-use, disposable replacement bionic arm!"
**Jams tree branch in the stump**
"Thanks Doc; I'm ready for action now!"
"For the EMPRAH!"
I think they mean it isn't a proper bionic arm (like one that would have been installed by a techpriest), but instead a temporary replacement arm that's meant to last until the wounded receives proper treatment.
It probably has limited run time or is weaker or something.
Yep. Pretty clear it's a limited-use field replacement. Like a bionic eye, or whatever. Probably not a whole arm, you'd struggle to fit that in there.
We're taking this too seriously.
Or they're taking it too lightly; even with your eye example, you think jamming some metallic ball in some bloody eye socket will suddenly allow someone to see? got to connect the nerves and everything else, which requires surgery...or are disposable bionics like a pirate's hook or a wooden toe (peg leg)?
Well back in the 2ed fluff that's pretty much how bionic implants were installed.
The tech marine would have a few bionic limbs handy for when a marine got a leg or arm blown off. The Apothecary would then clean up the wound and pretty much just jam the bionic on the stump.
I'm not saying that this is plausible or good, but I'm pretty sure it was established in the 40k fluff a long time ago.
If I can find where I read this in my old books I'll properly source it.
40k: - Cadian 231st, Death Guard, Sisters, Dark Eldar Iyanden, Scythes of the Emperor
WHFB Armies: High Elves, Empire, WoC, Beastmen, Lizardmen, Dark Elves, Vampires
2014/03/30 05:51:27
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
BrookM wrote: Digital edition is now also on pre-order with some nice art previews:
Single-use, disposable bionics?
Single-use.
Disposable.
Bionics!?!?
"Doc, DOC! I just lost my arm!"
"Don't worry, let me install you a single-use, disposable replacement bionic arm!"
**Jams tree branch in the stump**
"Thanks Doc; I'm ready for action now!"
"For the EMPRAH!"
I think they mean it isn't a proper bionic arm (like one that would have been installed by a techpriest), but instead a temporary replacement arm that's meant to last until the wounded receives proper treatment.
It probably has limited run time or is weaker or something.
Yep. Pretty clear it's a limited-use field replacement. Like a bionic eye, or whatever. Probably not a whole arm, you'd struggle to fit that in there.
We're taking this too seriously.
Or they're taking it too lightly; even with your eye example, you think jamming some metallic ball in some bloody eye socket will suddenly allow someone to see? got to connect the nerves and everything else, which requires surgery...or are disposable bionics like a pirate's hook or a wooden toe (peg leg)?
So first they steal the Ork's vehicle aesthetic and now they think they can just hone in on how Painboy's operate?
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
2014/03/30 06:11:52
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (preorders up)
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester 
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k 
.
- Cadian 231st, 
Death Guard, 
Sisters, 
Dark Eldar 
Iyanden, 
Scythes of the Emperor
