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Exactly like I said. TWC are not Troops, and Canis doesnt make them so. He makes the units of Fenrisian wolves troops.


Clay

BDJV wrote:

Andilus Greatsword wrote:This entire argument over the Maw has brought something to mind, so in a way you guys actually made me join Dakka Dakka (thanks).

Anyway as far as I can remember, Wolf Priests can only take 1 psychic power. So that means if they take Maw, they cannot take Stormcaller. I would personally much rather have Stormcaller to give my expensive troops an extra chance to get to the enemy's lines than an attack I may get off once before being blown to bits by my enemy's lascannons. Space Wolves are a primarily assault army, and Stormcaller is a much better choice for them if they want to support their troops and give them a chance to up the enemy good in CQC.

You're wrong they choose two powers. They can also upgrade and use two powers a turn.

Ok then, I stand corrected. So is Stormcaller a passive power, or does it require a psychic test? Not everyone is going to spring for the 2 psychic attacks per turn, so they'll have to pick and choose - defense for their oh-so-expensive troops or attack the damn Carnifex.

And like Brother SRM, I would be reluctant to use Maw personally, just because I like to give my opponents a sporting chance.

Oh man, I read through the codex today, and it was so intense. I think my favorite aspect is going to be Arjac Stonefist, what with his rerolls to hit, his ranged attack with the Thunder Hammer, and the Storm Shield that gives him an extra attack in close combat.

after reading the Sw codex and rockijng in the fetal position after looking at my doublewing da arm, Im hoping that when Gw finally get around to it that my Grey knights Supposed best of the best in the universe become he new super cheese

(but then I dunno if I can wait till 2020)

I wished they would of kept the 13th company or at least amp up the rules so that you can take a squad of wulfen and count them as elites. I just wait until I see the codex for myself...

I understand people's disappointment over the 13th Company not being included but really, how could you not expect them to remove them? They weren't even in the main dex just the supplement, if they shave things out of the main dexs for some armies what makes you think they'd save a supplement? They didn't do it for the LatD or Ulthwe.

I am going to be making 13th company conversions to use as my TWC.

the rules make them suitably awesome for this.

Is there any more info on the Lone Wolf guy that seems pretty cool.

Overall reading the rumours it looks like it lives up to the hype of making them semi unique space marines.


Be interesting if Blood angels and Dark Angels go the same treatment.

Well Hollis, all I can remember is that he has Eternal Warrior, Feel No Pain and the Saga of the Beast Slayer. He's weapons skill 5 with two wounds and costs twenty points base. He can take pretty much any weapon in the dex.

The Wulfen would be super easy to represent using the rules for either the Fenrisian Wolves or Thunderwolves for counts as.

Jack

BrotherStynier wrote:Well Hollis, all I can remember is that he has Eternal Warrior, Feel No Pain and the Saga of the Beast Slayer. He's weapons skill 5 with two wounds and costs twenty points base. He can take pretty much any weapon in the dex.

I was hoping he wouldnt take up a FOC slot or you could take multiples as one choice. Do they get any kind of infiltrate or scout?



The Wolf book looks more fluffy and fun than the Marine Codex really I still have some space wolf stuff from 2nd edition so I was wanting to make a "scout" force type with a Leader w the Stalker Saga and some other stuff.

Space Wolves: The new Eldar?

This is going to be completely ridiculous.

And of course my friend plays Space Wolves. I can't wait to get killed by the Maw every game. Sounds so exciting.

Hollismason wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:Well Hollis, all I can remember is that he has Eternal Warrior, Feel No Pain and the Saga of the Beast Slayer. He's weapons skill 5 with two wounds and costs twenty points base. He can take pretty much any weapon in the dex.

I was hoping he wouldnt take up a FOC slot or you could take multiples as one choice. Do they get any kind of infiltrate or scout?



The Wolf book looks more fluffy and fun than the Marine Codex really I still have some space wolf stuff from 2nd edition so I was wanting to make a "scout" force type with a Leader w the Stalker Saga and some other stuff.

Well if IRC he does take up an Elites choices so you could take on of him, a squad of Scouts and Wolf Guard, I don't know if they get infiltrate or scout it may be an option you can give them.

The Stealthy approach sounds like a good one, it's one of the ideas I have for my force as well.

It's okay, it's not like you'll be spending your Elites slots on Terminators, since they'll be Troops and all.

Damn , I was hoping they would be a choice of 1 to 3 or somethin.


Wolf Scouts seem kick ass that is cool.


Wolf Lord w/ Stalker or whatev is cool too.

The Lone Wolf (Tarzan or Mowgli) is pretty dang good for his points. He's going in my army.

Can all ICs in this codex ride Thunderwolves?

(Rubs hands in scheming glee).

Oh its a special characteR?

Hollismason wrote:Oh its a special characteR?

The lone wolf is not a independent character or special character, he is just infact an elite slot. I believe people have just given them affectionate names.

And i believe all of the generic special characters (wolf lord, wolf priest etc) are able to be mounted on a thunderwolf. Not 100% though, only saw the dex briefly last week.

yeah,
Is the new SpaceWolf codex SpaceHulk compatable?

Panic...

Panic wrote:yeah,
Is the new SpaceWolf codex SpaceHulk compatable?

Panic...

not sure what you mean by this. technically, the space hulk minis are blood angels. if you mean can you play the exact models in the space hulk game as a space wolf army WYSIWIG then the answer is yes (which is what i plan to do with my two sets of termies). the space wolves can customize each individual model so mixing and matching the figs in the space hulk squads into a wolf loganwing army is easily done (you have to take logan grimnar to make the termies troops).

yeah,
I'm just finding out the level of wolf / space corridor compatability before I consider making a 'why I'm not buying Spolfs thread'...

Panic...

I already had all my Space Hulk termies converted to be wolfy before the actual release date, (got the box on the 3rd, assembled all the models on that day, did these conversions on the 4th)

the little blood drop emblems on the ends of the chains can be carefully cut into the shape of wolf-teeth, the blood drop emblems in with wings can easily be shaved down then add a wolf-skull to it (its a motif I have all over my space wolves, especially my jump infantry, who I havnt used since 2nd edition) the drop pod emblems can be carefully shaved off their backings, then carfully rebent to fit on a shoulderpad, glued down, then greenstuff the edges to fill the small gap. Also, wolf tails are realllllly easy to add everywhere, and wolf pelts are not hard to do.

The Rune Priest looks very tasty. Nice idea for a good use of good models

Good work Demo.

Wow....with this new SW release of new models & rules. This just nailed the coffin for Dark Angels & put them 6 feet under then having the puppies pissing on their grave to mark their territory.

All DA are now is vanilla marines. They are no different from U/Marines or smurfs except color scheme. Don't even want to play my favorite army now.

Just want to burn my DA book, and go back to 3rd pretend this nightmare never happened.

The DA models are cartoony as hell or a joke. The rules downright got shafted.

agh.. don't even want to bother to say the rest.

I will never understand the DA whiners. If you like the DA, you will use them regardless. Us puppies has poor rules and overcosted armies for years, but we never complained, at least not to the degree of the DA players

-shrug-

I have been a SW player for about 20 years. I have been playing DA for about a year. I have only a few complainds about the DA, but those little things. Scouts are Elite, no Flamers with Assualt squads, but that not my whine. The DA had the Deathwing, that if played well can end a game in one or 2 turns, can field a entinly Fearless.
-Deathwing and Raven Wing are fearless!
I like what they have done Space Puppies [Look at that pic of Canis].

Anpu42 wrote:Scouts are Elite.

So why do you play Space Wolves?

Gwar! wrote:I will never understand the DA whiners. If you like the DA, you will use them regardless. Us puppies has poor rules and overcosted armies for years, but we never complained, at least not to the degree of the DA players

-shrug-

Exactly! I relish the challenge! I even try to pit my Wolf Lord against the strongest opponents available (Chaos Lords, a Hive Tyrant, the Nightbringer on a couple occasions and I actually held my own against it for 3 turns!). But yeah, the rules can give you an advantage, but the skilled player can win regardless.

Hmm. I liken this to what CSM went to from 3.5 to 5th. BLAND and no good reason Daemons and C:CSM can't use same daemons/gear.

All the "uniqueness" that BA/DA/BT/SW had have now been merged and made better options in C:Ultrasmurph.

White scars > Ravenwing
Lysander/SW Termies > Deathwing

Like I said earlier, I'll try the new rules for Wolfwing v Deathwing and see what plays better.

<--- Not bitter. Just wanting GW to stop the charade and refer to my sig.