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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 07:28:01
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Raging Ravener
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XclusivevVorTex wrote:Is the night scythe the flying cresent shaped thing in the new necron background?
Is this on the internet? If so where have you seen it?
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May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.
The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 07:33:58
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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XclusivevVorTex wrote:Is the night scythe the flying cresent shaped thing in the new necron background?
Now that you say it there are Baterang (Batarang? Batmans boomarang) shaped things in the sky
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 07:39:13
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well orderd the codex and the stormlord. Will wait for further stats after that.
Also you can see the units their new stats if you look @ them on the GW website.
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Reanimation Protocols activated
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 07:40:21
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Irked Blood Angel Scout with Combat Knife
Woodford Halse
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The Metal Tide wrote:XclusivevVorTex wrote:Is the night scythe the flying cresent shaped thing in the new necron background?
Is this on the internet? If so where have you seen it?
Gamesworkshop website in the back ground of the new necron packaging.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 08:26:41
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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People, my necrons will be unpacked out of their dusty tomb boxes, get a nice new paintjob and they will be fielded once more!!
Codex is pre ordered!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 08:54:03
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok I have to ask... what's up with everything having initiative 2? Please we get something that allows us to knock opponents down to initiative 1 so taking our cc troops won’t be a huge waste of time and points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 08:55:18
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Sniping Gŭiláng
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Give those to orks instead. They are an actual CC-army with I2 !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:03:04
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Regarding Cryteks... For those of us who dont have the funds to buy all the new units. Does anyone think me using my old Pariah modes as Crypteks would be a problem? From what I understand they have staff/stave weapons anyway so the warscythe could easily be a counts-as tremor-stave etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:05:58
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Synchronized Devabot
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Wow, the new Necrons look nice, and decent prices as well, those Arks are only £31.00!  Cheaper than land raiders
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:06:12
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Raging Ravener
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scythewing wrote:Ok I have to ask... what's up with everything having initiative 2? Please we get something that allows us to knock opponents down to initiative 1 so taking our cc troops won’t be a huge waste of time and points.
Wraiths have some sort of coil whip that works like a tyranid lash whip. But other than that i have not heard of any other device that does so.
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May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.
The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:12:39
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ya I’m hoping our cc troops are more than just a high priced speed bump that can’t hit back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:13:30
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Metal Tide wrote:scythewing wrote:Ok I have to ask... what's up with everything having initiative 2? Please we get something that allows us to knock opponents down to initiative 1 so taking our cc troops won’t be a huge waste of time and points.
Wraiths have some sort of coil whip that works like a tyranid lash whip. But other than that i have not heard of any other device that does so.
Don't forget Tomb Spyders! They can take Whip Coils as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:14:16
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Freaky Flayed One
Canada
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New Dakka? Very pretty.
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Fetish for Dragons. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:16:08
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hmmmm so the spyders might be an auto include.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:17:46
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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GiantSlingshot wrote:A court full of Tachyons could be pretty mean indeed. But, another thing that I saw reading through product descriptions was in the Overlord write up, it describes "It's up to you whether your Overlord is a stately, lead 'em from the back type (resurrection orb)..." This statement is a puzzle to me.
For our current understanding of the orb, it's only effective for units that the orb is attached to. If an overlord were to "Lead 'em from the back," one would imagine he's not attached to a unit. Is Ward just implying he'd take an orb for his own sake, or is there some advantage we aren't privy to?
I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about either.
Tachyon Arrows are not selectable by standard Lords in the codex I have. Now, obviously things could have changed in the final version, but even if they have the cost of a Tachyon Arrow is so high (points-wise) there's very little way you could justify taking a whole bunch in your army without cannibalizing your ability to field anything decent. The other possibility is of course that it is just a simple slip-up on the part of the marketing write up, and given that its not in the section written by the actual Codex authors, that seems fairly likely.
And onto the Rez Orbs, I simply think they mean 'stand in the back' more in terms of supporting other units by being in them, as opposed to taking a bunch of CC wargear and sending your Overlord out to go kill things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:20:36
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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See, havign looked at the rules (as they have been stated here mind you) for the Doomsday Ark and the Annihilation Barge.....i am torn which one to get.
The Ark looks awesome with S9 AP1 72", but it can only do that if it stay still....BUT it is a nice bit of ranged AT for the 'crons whihc they have always lacked.
But the Barge is a really nice looking gun boat with what seems like loads of nastiness. TL S7 Tesla? As well as another big Tesla as well? Will have to check the rules and codex when it comes out but that Barge looks like it could be a nice rhino-popper as well as a nasty bit of anti-infantry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:22:51
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm guessing with the rez orbs your ganna have to pay for em as are going to be a little pricy. But I am wondering what the Gauntlet of fire does?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:41:30
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Irked Necron Immortal
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New dakka looks great!  Let's celebrate it with a new fluff.
Imotekh vs. Trazyn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:47:46
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Commanding Orc Boss
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Hey Dakka I like the new look! So it is official! The true scourge of the galaxy is back again to reap you all!
I noticed in the advanced orders pics (the new 360 degree view is cool) that warriors still have their glowing rods. So I have a question: Do the other models (Immortals for example) have glowrods as well and there is just a different paintjob applied on top of them? Or are they all gone for the new models?
Thanks all and apologies if this has been addressed to earlier.
Nice piece of fluff above me. But... Imotech "snorted"? no offense, just sounded a bit funny.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/10/29 09:53:35
KoW Ogres/Basileans/Elves
WHFB Orcs & Goblins
WH40k Necrons
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:50:21
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I just want to mention that one of the new features of Dakka is the ability to filter a thread to only a single member's posts in that thread (you do that by clicking on the 'filter thread' link by the user's name anywhere in the thread).
So this is a great tool, for example, if you just wanted to look through all the (mainly) rumor posts I've made in this thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/403994.page?userfilterid=60
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:52:54
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Mighty Brass Scorpion of Khorne
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yakface wrote:
I just want to mention that one of the new features of Dakka is the ability to filter a thread to only a single member's posts in that thread (you do that by clicking on the 'filter thread' link by the user's name anywhere in the thread).
So this is a great tool, for example, if you just wanted to look through all the (mainly) rumor posts I've made in this thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/403994.page?userfilterid=60
Lego is a genius  121 pages of randomness filtered down to 4 pages of gold
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:57:02
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Commanding Orc Boss
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Gorechild wrote:yakface wrote:
I just want to mention that one of the new features of Dakka is the ability to filter a thread to only a single member's posts in that thread (you do that by clicking on the 'filter thread' link by the user's name anywhere in the thread).
So this is a great tool, for example, if you just wanted to look through all the (mainly) rumor posts I've made in this thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/403994.page?userfilterid=60
Lego is a genius  121 pages of randomness filtered down to 4 pages of gold 
Indeed.
Hey just noticed the new WHAAAGH! Orcmoticon! Now I have more faces with which to WHAAAGH!
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KoW Ogres/Basileans/Elves
WHFB Orcs & Goblins
WH40k Necrons
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 09:57:59
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Irked Necron Immortal
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yakface wrote:
I just want to mention that one of the new features of Dakka is the ability to filter a thread to only a single member's posts in that thread (you do that by clicking on the 'filter thread' link by the user's name anywhere in the thread).
So this is a great tool, for example, if you just wanted to look through all the (mainly) rumor posts I've made in this thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/403994.page?userfilterid=60
When using your filter option link, pressing next (or previous) page makes you leave the filter. Bug or feature?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 10:16:21
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in first post (latest update: Revised summary and first Cryptek pic)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
New Zealand
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scythewing wrote:Ya I’m hoping our cc troops are more than just a high priced speed bump that can’t hit back.
This is why I think res orbs and invulnerable saves are going to be crucial to effective Necron CC units. From what I've seen, Necrons will still have some units that can stand their ground in combat, but you will need to support them so that the combats take place on your terms as much as possible.
Whip Coil equipped Scarabs sound like fun actually, and could certainly deter and screen your troop gun lines.
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Retired Space Marine and Necron 40K player. Looking to start Warmahordes in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 10:18:57
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Hey Yak, Can the Immortals ride a Ghost Arc the same way a royal court can? ie, not take one, but get inside it during the game and use it as a means of mobility?
Or are they limited to the Night Scythe?
And also, if you put minimum warriors in a Ghost Arc, say starting strength of 5, can its regeneration ability bring the squad size up to ten, or is it limited to up to the starting strength.?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 10:19:40
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So others have mentioned that in the new Monolith notes on GW's site that the Deep Strike special rule has an asterisk by it.
Combine that with the fact that the author recommends that you 'Deep Strike it onto an enemy-held objective' certainly makes it sound like they've added some sort of additional rules back to the Monolith regarding Deep Strike beyond what was in the version of the codex I had.
Anyone with a White Dwarf was there any mention of the Monolith's Deep Strike capabilities in the new codex?
Automatically Appended Next Post: shadzinator wrote:Hey Yak, Can the Immortals ride a Ghost Arc the same way a royal court can? ie, not take one, but get inside it during the game and use it as a means of mobility?
Or are they limited to the Night Scythe?
No it specifically lists which models can ride in a Ghost Ark (the ones I list in the first page summary of this thread) and Immortals are not one of the listed models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 10:34:16
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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So others have mentioned that in the new Monolith notes on GW's site that the Deep Strike special rule has an asterisk by it.
Combine that with the fact that the author recommends that you 'Deep Strike it onto an enemy-held objective' certainly makes it sound like they've added some sort of additional rules back to the Monolith regarding Deep Strike beyond what was in the version of the codex I had.
Anyone with a White Dwarf was there any mention of the Monolith's Deep Strike capabilities in the new codex?
Nope I bought the WD today and both monoliths in the battle report started on the field. Didn't mention anything about deep-strike immunity.
The points cost has remained the same however. So if they have then its a free bonus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 11:23:25
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Freaky Flayed One
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Whats everyones issue with I2? Higher doesn't fit with the fluff. Necrons are described all over the gw site as an elite shooty/gunline army. Robot automatons arent going to be faster than super soldiers, pure CC armies and eldar. Maybe I play a little too much Lizardmen but there are always ways to get around it like baiting CC units into a clump and then spam templates. If you want high I and strong shooting play the eldar armies. Almost every model we have has a save no other army does and we have all these new guns to destroy troops. If you want to be pissed about something CC related, be pissed that the only thing that can carry your CC stuff isnt in the first wave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 11:53:53
Subject: Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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The beauty about Necrons (and what i am looking forward to using the most) is teleporting to setup horrible cross fires to catch those elite CC units in (im looking at you, BAs and SWs!!).
They think they are moving in to charge a poor lonly uit of necons then, BAMF, 2 monolith slide up and drop of 20 more warriros and they fire off 60 gauss shots between them.
I think most (if not all) of our new CC units will be either solid counter punch units or have some sort of funky wargear to lower their opponent iniative or raise their own.
Personally i prefer shooty armies so i will most likely be firleding masses of warriors/immortals along with a coupel of Monolith. my FA slots will most likely be filled with Scarabs as that entropic strike sounds too good not to have (and i also have 20 swarms already and ant afford to buy loads fo new models). For CC i am tempted to get a unit of Lychguard with shields.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 11:56:53
Subject: Re:Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (update: Advanced Orders are up! discussion starts pg 121)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Whats everyones issue with I2? Higher doesn't fit with the fluff
except that lords, pariahs (now crypteks, lychguard or praetorians i guess) flayed ones, wraiths and c'tan have had higher than I2 for close to a decade! wraiths used to be I6!
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