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The depth impressed me in that last episode. I mean they took several episodes to build up to a climax to enable
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Maarta to strike at the Empire after death. The writers room conversation must have been wild to work through the range of possible objects, decide on the brick, then back up all the cultural design of Ferix through the preceding episodes to get to this as payback. It was glorious

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The brass/marching band scene is one of the most powerful things from any Star Wars ever. From the slow tuning up, the funeral dirge and then the quickened pace towards the end of the march. Exceptional stuff.


I was really concerned at first because I initially thought their tuning up Was the dirge, and that was… not good music. But it wasn’t supposed to be so that’s ok.

 
   
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I loved the realization that only came at the end of Episode 12 that another possible name for the show (at least Season One) makes Andor not just about Cassian, but also Maarta.

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The ISB officer being in shock was a humanising moment - and important. The most evil people in history can still suffer trauma, and when they do it is hard not to empathise if you witness it. Even if what they deserve on the balance of analysis is a barrage of blaster rounds.
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Loving Andor and didn't know there was an after credits scene till after I saw E12.

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Slightly disappointed, I liked it when the work they were doing in the prison was something bizarre and Kafkaesque and liked the idea they, and we, would never even know what it was all for.

Ah well.



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I’m just thankful that the post credits cameo wasn’t yet another overused recurring character. Mando had deus ex skywalker when it wasn’t needed. This guest appearance was at least slightly more subtle and in logical progression to Andors ultimate future.

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The_Real_Chris wrote:
The ISB officer being in shock was a humanising moment - and important. The most evil people in history can still suffer trauma, and when they do it is hard not to empathise if you witness it. Even if what they deserve on the balance of analysis is a barrage of blaster rounds.


Also one of the more unsettling scenes in Star Wars, you really wondered what Syril was going to do given how strong his obsession with Dedra is.

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Finally got around to watching Episode 1 of Andor and have been largely avoiding spoilers so far. Feels like the most competent SW storytelling I've seen outside of Rogue One and The Mandalorian in the last few decades.

I'm mildly conflicted about Syril Karn. On the one hand he seems like a tool, but on the other hand I'm sympathetic to how he's not okay with murder being swept under the carpet.

We already knew Andor wasn't opposed to killing, but I'm guessing this was his first time.

It will be interesting to see how this develops.
   
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TBF he's not ok with it because it was people who worked for the security forces. Obviously, we don't get to see how he would react if it was a civilian but from an ethical standpoint, Karn isn't really getting any points. It's basically "We can't be seen as weak by not hunting down someone who has harmed the company".

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 Gert wrote:
TBF he's not ok with it because it was people who worked for the security forces. Obviously, we don't get to see how he would react if it was a civilian but from an ethical standpoint, Karn isn't really getting any points. It's basically "We can't be seen as weak by not hunting down someone who has harmed the company".


Thanks! That clarifies things a bit more.
   
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I don’t recall it being a Can’t Be Seen As Weak thing, but more of a general loyalty towards his men/coworkers and How Dare He Do That To US. A genuine sense of what he viewed as Justice.

 
   
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Sort of the same thing IMO. It's not justice for the men because they only mattered because they were part of the company. He's not mad because the deaths of two men aren't being investigated, he's mad because the deaths of two company men aren't being investigated.
   
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 Gert wrote:
Sort of the same thing IMO. It's not justice for the men because they only mattered because they were part of the company. He's not mad because the deaths of two men aren't being investigated, he's mad because the deaths of two company men aren't being investigated.


That is how I took it as well. And despite appearing to be a “by the book” type, his non-regulation tailored uniform made me think he was willing to break rules in order to look good. That said, over the season he came across as flawed but not necessarily malicious. Odd, a little too intense (bordering on creepy) but remarkably Human for a Star Wars villain. It makes me curious to see what will happen with him,

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There's honestly plenty to sympathize with Karn. He's an inherently lawful character and his initial actions really aren't even evil. He's an antagonist, but not really a villain. The problem is he believes lawful is always good which drives his support of increasingly unjust actions rather than face the horrors of a system of law being used for evil.
   
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I just want to know when Disney will start selling replica Maarva bricks.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I just want to know when Disney will start selling replica Maarva bricks.


Probably already at Galaxy's Edge.
   
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So we just finished up Andor and almost immediately started Kenobi.

I wouldn’t recommend doing that.


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 LunarSol wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I just want to know when Disney will start selling replica Maarva bricks.


Probably already at Galaxy's Edge.


This year’s Beanie Baby, for sure.

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Well, I'm looking forward to it, even if the first season was a drag at one episode per week.

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Bad Batch S2 launches on Wednesday! (4th January)

If Math’s Cat is right, that should give us some new Star Wars content up to the release of Mando S3 in early March, which should mean new Star Wars ever week until maybe May?

Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?

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That sounds kind of nice, doesn't it? On the other hand, with the new season of Bad Batch you're looking at 20 minutes of fun and then you have to wait another 10060 minutes before you get your next 20 minutes of fun. That doesn't sound so nice, does it?

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I didn’t do it. Maths Cat did.

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It's something to look forward to each week and a way for me to remember what day it is.
   
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I'm hoping that season two doesn't fall into the traps of:

1. The good guys stunning/disarming/knocking out every bad guy them come across (or indirectly causing them to fall to their deaths), rather than shooting them, something that plague the latter season of Rebels and bled into the final season of Clone Wars.

2. Not making every remaining clone them come across a reluctant participant in the Empire's actions.

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 Gert wrote:
Dad Batch babyyyyy.


I don't think they thought through that name very well. There is no way I can read it without my mind swapping an 'a' for an 'i'.

Bid Batch.

 
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm hoping that season two doesn't fall into the traps of:

1. The good guys stunning/disarming/knocking out every bad guy them come across (or indirectly causing them to fall to their deaths), rather than shooting them, something that plague the latter season of Rebels and bled into the final season of Clone Wars.

2. Not making every remaining clone them come across a reluctant participant in the Empire's actions.



On 1, I don't think that's a hope to hold on to. Even in their first appearance the Bad Batch did things that blatantly defied combat rules previously shown in Clone Wars in order to make them look cool. We got an even dumber version of that in the first episode of Bad Batch. Clone Force 99 already is all flash and no substance. It stands to reason that as they turn from soldiers of fortune into rebels against the Empire more formally, their portrayal will make them look like unmitigated good guys (as long as you don't think about it too hard). I doubt that is avoidable.

On 2, eh. So far we had a captain with a long standing relationship (as far as that goes with Clones) with the natives defy orders and a minority of his troopers side with their commanding officer rather than the political body they're sworn to serve. Most Clones so far haven't had loyalty issues. I suppose it's a concern that the more TK troopers take over the less Clones have to act as faceless enforcers of the Empire and are free to question their commitment, but I wouldn't worry about it until it actually happens.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
2. Not making every remaining clone them come across a reluctant participant in the Empire's actions.

I mean it's one of the reasons the Empire pivoted to Stormtroopers though. The Clones were soldiers of the Republic and had the idealism of that era baked into them pretty hard. Clone Wars makes it pretty clear that despite their training and programming they aren't unthinking machines and they still have opinions and emotions. The inhibitor chips only did so much in forcing compliance with Order 66 and there were specific instructions encoded to ensure any Clones who didn't comply were also executed as traitors. We know that Rex was able to resist the programming for a short period and that the Captain who served alongside Caleb Dume overcame his programming to let the Padawan escape after he was captured.
Killing the Jedi, who the Clones were led to believe were traitors, is one thing but watching your allies and the people you swore to protect get trampled by the tyranny of the Empire is something we know has affected at least some Clones so far. They were created to uphold the ideals of freedom and democracy after all and they fought against the oppression of the Separatists.
   
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 Gert wrote:
It's something to look forward to each week and a way for me to remember what day it is.


I'll be honest, I couldn't stand to binge it. It really only works as a weekly thing for me.
   
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All shows should be weekly, mostly because its been proven time and time again that it keeps viewer retention as well as encourages discussion about the show.
   
 
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