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2010/05/01 14:56:00
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
I must agree with LL on this, conversation is all but done for today, we need someone to either switch to Shas or Drk, we've got nothing much left to say. It will only hurt the town if we don't lynch our suspected scum.
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
2010/05/01 15:59:55
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
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Howlingmoon wrote:Good on you for finally realizing the scum that is tournament players, Warhammer would really be better off if those mongrels all left to play Warmachine with the rest of the anti-social miscreants.
combatmedic wrote:Im sure the only reason Japan lost WW2 was because the US failed disclose beforehand they had Tactical Nuke special rule.
2010/05/01 16:27:49
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Okay, I've thought this over and here are my thoughts.
My big concern of the day is ferret's last minute shift with the belief it was a hammer vote. Considering ferret was also sitting on shas for so long and made such a big deal out of needing evidence for a vote his sudden shift to Drk_O strikes me as odd since I'm pretty sure we're still trying to lynch Drk_O on the same case I had yesterday, as I don't recall thinking anything Drk_O did today was particularly scummy. My big concern now is that ferret is scum and neither Drk_O or shas are scum (I personally don't really buy the shas=scum case myself, so now that ferret is okay voting Drk_O and, in fact, thought he hammered him I really don't see a ferret/Drk_O scumpair and that has me worried about my reads.
This all said, I'm going to;
Vote: Drk_O
Because I still don't like that spot's actions and also I really want to flip either it or DDRE in order to alleviate some suspicions of mine.
@ferret - what was the evidence change that happened to now make Drk_O a viable lynch for you?
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2010/05/01 16:29:35
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
@Drk_O - if you're town please do not self-hammer. Town wants to lynch scum, a no lynch is better then a town lynch, and since you would know whether or not you are town you shouldn't self vote.
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2010/05/01 16:52:46
Subject: Re:Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
I was considering moving over to Shas on Sunday if there had been no movement in the ranks, but with Ferrett, my top suspect suddenly flinging himself dramatically onto the guns (I love big dramatic posts which fizzle dramatically within moments when everyone looks at them and says "urrr, what?") I'm really not sure what to think.
Shas is one step further from a lynch and Drk_O is one step closer. However we now have 4 people on Shas who don't want to move rather than 4 people on Drk who don't want to move. And of course Arheiner.
A few things have been said towards the end of this day phase that are going to make me change the way I am thinking about a few people tomorrow. Shas will still be on my list if he doesn't get lynched today, but a lot of other things will change.
I am pretty firm on my vote for Shas right now, and do not wish to change, but I will make my final decision on whether to switch closer to the deadline.
I will say this though - Drk_O is a huge bluffer, but maybe hasn't bluffed so well this time. He has said he wouldn't mind dying if it helps the town, presumably on the basis he wins whether he survives or not if town wins. However, I think that most people still want to survive even if town wins. People like to win and survive. Is he thinking-like-a-'stealer-thinking-like-a-cit? Or is he just the ideal cit?
Though guards may sleep and ships may lay at anchor, our foes know full well that big guns never tire.
*sighs* I made the comment because I _still_ don't see Drk_O as guilty.... but with less than 24 hours left I'm concerned we'll be wasting a whole day phase because people are stubborn.
By the way, this is the 3rd time I've been accused of not being able to count in one of these games. I assumed those on the Shas team were less stubborn and arrogant than those on the Drk_O team. I have been proven wrong. And now Thorr is talking about how well it is to not get a lynch at all. Thankyou Thorr.
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2010/05/02 02:27:27
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
There is a difference between having a no lynch, and having a lynch through a townie lynching himself - I can explain it more if you wish, but I feel the logic is evident.
Also, you have just admitted you don't think Drk_O is scummy...why would you try to hammer him then?
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2010/05/02 05:47:05
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Thor665 wrote:@Drk_O - if you're town please do not self-hammer. Town wants to lynch scum, a no lynch is better then a town lynch, and since you would know whether or not you are town you shouldn't self vote.
I know, but as I said previously, I'm too much of an attention vacuum this game.
I've thought this over. Say we lynch Shas'o today...
1. He turns out to be scum, everyone suspects me because I almost stopped him from being lynched. Some of you aren't sure whether this was to try and protect him, to stall for time for a "no lynch" result, or whether it was all a coincidence. But I get lynched none-the-less.
2. He turns out to be town. (See today, replacing Shas'o with Arheiner). Or Arheiner doesn't post, and gets modkilled. Everyone votes for me and I get lynched.
So, we got with a no lynch...
1. DayPhase3 mirrors DayPhase2, unless Nightlynching takes someone interesting, not including myself.
2. Shas'o or I get Nightlynched. The most unlikely of all the situations I have, as we're more likely to be lynched by voting than other players. If either of us get Nightlynched, it'd mean the other will likely be voted off. Or DayPhase3 is like today, replacing the dead one of us with Arheiner.
We still have a day, so I'll wait it until tomorrow.
There's a much bigger logical flaw in killing off town for the sake of it. Maybe it will point some vague fingers at those who voted for him, but it's not worth one of us dying if we're definitely town.
Better to have ABSOLUTELY nothing happen. Yes, sense that makes. Complete sense, I can see that now! More sense to have everyone repeating this lynch idea in 24 hours. Congratulations geniuses. You've officially got me attempting sarcasm!
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2010/05/02 14:59:17
Subject: Re:Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
In all honesty I feel nothing more can come of today, Drk has been highly suspicious throughout and I did promise that if the time came that I felt it necessary to incur a lynch, I would do so.
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2010/05/02 15:21:04
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
And that's a lynch of Dark_O. Story post will follow later today. Feel free to keep discussing (except Dark_O) until the post goes up.
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Howlingmoon wrote:Good on you for finally realizing the scum that is tournament players, Warhammer would really be better off if those mongrels all left to play Warmachine with the rest of the anti-social miscreants.
combatmedic wrote:Im sure the only reason Japan lost WW2 was because the US failed disclose beforehand they had Tactical Nuke special rule.
2010/05/02 15:26:38
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
the_ferrett wrote:Better to have ABSOLUTELY nothing happen. Yes, sense that makes. Complete sense, I can see that now! More sense to have everyone repeating this lynch idea in 24 hours. Congratulations geniuses. You've officially got me attempting sarcasm!
Yes, if Drk_O is town it is better to have no lynch then have him lynch himself. The reason why having a lynch is preferable to having a no lynch is because with a lynch you have a chance to hit scum. If Drk_O knowingly helps us lynch town (himself) then he is helping the Genestealers by killing townies and also helping a lynch that has no chance to hit scum and is thus not helpful to town. Do you understand the reasoning now?
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:In all honesty I feel nothing more can come of today, Drk has been highly suspicious throughout and I did promise that if the time came that I felt it necessary to incur a lynch, I would do so.
This is unexpected and it will be quite interesting to see how Drk_O flips now. If he flips scum then this does *not* clear DDRE as this could have been a last minute bussing attempt in order to gain some town cred. If Drk_O flips town...eh, things become more muddled. In any case, if I'm not around tomorrow please keep an eye on this action.
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2010/05/02 18:58:33
Subject: Re:Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
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End of Day 2: Story Post ================================
Today was much easier than yesterday. The sleep deprivation and hopelessness brought on by Not_U's death made today's decision to lynch one of the survivors seem less out of place. In any other situation, the practice of voting on who gets killed might be barbariac, but now it seems almost completely rational and acceptable. Acceptable to everyone but the victims...
Like yesterday, once the last vote was cast, the group descends on the victim, bloodlust in their eyes. Unlike the previous day, the victim has no intention of going quietly into the night. As Dark_O understands his fate, he immediately pounces on Shas'O, screaming, "I should have voted for you when I had the chance!" and begins beating him with his fists. Dark_O's last stand only lasts a moment, as one of the mob knocks him off of Shas'O with one of the mess hall chairs. The impact sends shards of the chair flying across the room while Dark_O is launched clear of Shas_O and into the wall. Stunned, and unable to clear his head long enough to climb to his feet, he can only watch as the mob once again approaches him, this time armed with the broken remnants of the chair...
Upon searching DarkO, the group finds a book titled "How to Always be the Center of Attention"
Dark_O was a loyal Imperial Citizen!!!!
With another innocent dead, the walls feel that much tighter and the air that much heavier and oppressive. It will be another long night....
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Night Phase 2:
Please everyone send me your Night Phase Actions before 6:00 PM EST on Wed. If night actions are sent earlier, then I might start the next day phase before then. Also, feel free to send me PMs with guesses of the culprits and whatnot, so I can have a private chuckle at what everyone is thinking and so you can show everyone that you "knew it all along!" (I won't reply to any of them, simply to avoid giving out any sort of tells)
Friendly reminder, don't PM anyone during the Night Phase unless your role specifically allows it. Also, no posting in the thread either.
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Howlingmoon wrote:Good on you for finally realizing the scum that is tournament players, Warhammer would really be better off if those mongrels all left to play Warmachine with the rest of the anti-social miscreants.
combatmedic wrote:Im sure the only reason Japan lost WW2 was because the US failed disclose beforehand they had Tactical Nuke special rule.
2010/05/05 12:22:19
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
RL is pretty crazy atm, so the story post might be a little late this evening. Sorry for the inconvience.
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Howlingmoon wrote:Good on you for finally realizing the scum that is tournament players, Warhammer would really be better off if those mongrels all left to play Warmachine with the rest of the anti-social miscreants.
combatmedic wrote:Im sure the only reason Japan lost WW2 was because the US failed disclose beforehand they had Tactical Nuke special rule.
2010/05/06 13:16:50
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention.
2010/05/07 22:12:21
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
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START OF DAY 3 STORY POST
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Once again the night passes ever so slowly. Sheer exhaustion makes it impossible to keep completely awake... but sleep does not come easy either. Whether one dozes off while trying to keep an alert vigil, or is able to fall asleep intentionally, the result is the same. Almost as soon as their eyes close, a creak, a drip, or even the subtle feeling of a watching, unseen evil brings each survivor out of their fitfull rest with a start, blindly flailing to ward off the imaginary claws closing around their neck. It's enough to push many to the point of wishing they had been the one killed the previous day, simply to end the fear and madness...
As "morning" breaks, once again the survivors gather together in what is becoming a grim ritual of watching and waiting to find out who was slaugtered in the night. Very quickly it becomes clear that Lord Loss is not coming to join them. Everyone slowly walks to his room, wondering what horrible fate the xenos inflicted on him. As they near his room, a terrible stench of mold mixed with boiled leather permeates the air. That sickening smell is what is left of Lord Loss... A hot water pipe running through his room was punctured in the night, letting hot water and steam into his room, which is sealed from the outside. The steam turned the room into a giant pressure cooker, boiling Lord Loss like a lobster in a pot. And scrawled on the outside of the door is the phrase. "The Psyker (Doctor) is IN"
Lord Loss was the Imperial Psyker!!!
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Day 3 has now begun!!! With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The Day Phase will end at 1800 EST on Monday, May 24th.
I am really sorry about the delay guys. RL has been crazy.
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Howlingmoon wrote:Good on you for finally realizing the scum that is tournament players, Warhammer would really be better off if those mongrels all left to play Warmachine with the rest of the anti-social miscreants.
combatmedic wrote:Im sure the only reason Japan lost WW2 was because the US failed disclose beforehand they had Tactical Nuke special rule.
2010/05/07 23:24:31
Subject: Re:Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Wow. Lord Loss has been both very fortunate and very unlucky in 2 games running. First game he was the Archon and was lynched Day 2, this time he was the psyker and murdered on Night 2.
So Day 3 leaves us with 4 dead imperials and not a crust to show for it. Our psyker must have found little of value in the first night. Wonder if the death was lucky for the genestealers or if he gave himself away somehow.
Eeesh, I was banking that we didn't even have a Psyker after n0t_u bought it (by the way, LL, sorry about the Psyker = stupid stuff at the beginning of Day 2, I know you were probably just trying to out think the Genestealers with whomever you chose to protect, sorry it didn't work for you and sorry I helped self-flagellate you)
shas becomes a player of higher concern for me now because LL was clearly big into wanting to lynch shas. Now, scum may have just killed LL to make us think that, but scum may also have been trying to protect one of their own.
That all said;
Vote: the_ferrett
I really didn't like how he got onto the Drk_O wagon after fighting it for so long. Also, by dint of him shifting off of shas who he was working on for so long it makes me feel it's unlikely for ferret/shas to be a scumpair together. I don't care for either of them much, but I've had a townish read on shas for a while now so I figure I'll stick with that gut read and aim at the more overall skeevy slot.
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2010/05/08 06:30:01
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Hmmm. Right off the bat, ey? I'm looking at 1,3,X if that's the case. (Round voted off the island). As to why the switch? Because I immensely dislike wasted days. Even if there is a 99% chance someone is innocent, it is better to convict them and hope for the 1% than to do a 0% benifit action. (OOC: Excuse the maths, currently running heurustics on distilation columns in the backround.) 1%>0% and a no lynch is 0%.
Seeing as I look to be the obvious next target, I'm going to pose a question to each of the following.
Thor - On the condition of assuming me scum, who would you partner me with based purely upon MY actions?
DDRE - What are your thoughts on your voteswitch, given that you performed similar actions to me and have not been noticed for it.
Fifty - Your aim was on Arheiner due to his low post count, has this continued?
Arheiner - Do you have anything to say?
BishopGore - Now that this has turned out, and you've been gunning for my blood since day 1, will you follow through on your aim to kill?
Brother Stynier - .... Where is your god now? ()
Shas O'vera - Are you feeling lucky punk? Statistics say its either you or me.
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2010/05/08 06:52:41
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Right off the bat? We're in Day 3, theoretically everyone's suspect list is getting shorter and their ability to point out the scummiest seeming player who is left should be easier.
the_ferrett wrote:Thor - On the condition of assuming me scum, who would you partner me with based purely upon MY actions?
An interesting question and an interesting way to choose to phrase it. Any particular reason I can't/shouldn't use other player's actions?
As to your likely scum partner I will rule out myself, for obvious reasons, and will note that I do not believe you would be a partner with shas'o considering your actions yesterday and I feel it's supported by the phrasing of the question you asked to him just now. I do still suspect DDRE but am not sure if I see a likely DDRE/ferret connection, that said, considering he's my second top suspect I'll list him just for my own sanity's sake. I would also probably posit either Arheiner or Fifty as up until this last post you seem to have made a solid goal of not mentioning either of them really at all which is interesting considering how much Arheiner has been discussed for his lack of contribution (especially considering your reasons for being on the shas wagon) and Fifty because to my recollection he's the most talkative player in the game whom you haven't made a dig at and claimed persecution from. Everyone else who I feel has been active has been attacked by you on some level or other except him. Maybe he's just below the activity level that bugs you, but it rings odd to me. I'd probably point at Arheiner as the more likely of the pair.
So in quick list format, in order of what I feel is the likelihood;
Arheiner
DDRE (though individually I find him scummier then Arheiner, and I don't see Arheiner/DDRE as that likely)
Fifty
Arheiner - Do you have anything to say?
And suddenly ferret really likes commentary? That quibble aside, this is an otherwise good point...
Gornall could we please have Arheiner prodded?
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2010/05/08 07:33:03
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
the_ferrett wrote:Hmmm. Right off the bat, ey? I'm looking at 1,3,X if that's the case. (Round voted off the island). As to why the switch? Because I immensely dislike wasted days. Even if there is a 99% chance someone is innocent, it is better to convict them and hope for the 1% than to do a 0% benifit action. (OOC: Excuse the maths, currently running heurustics on distilation columns in the backround.) 1%>0% and a no lynch is 0%.
Brother Stynier - .... Where is your god now? ()
If I remember correctly from the beginning I have allotted for the chance that Drk_O could be an Imperial, and stated that regardless of whether he was or wasn't loyal I would prefer him removed from play, as his style of play is never beneficial to the town. So when you say where is my god now? All I can say is this outcome had occurred to me, and Drk_O's removal allows me to focus more on someone else.
I would also hope that when you said where is your god now, you meant where is "OUR God-Emperor?" This is not the first time you have referred to the God-Emperor as mine and not yours.
2010/05/08 09:13:31
Subject: Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea
Ferret, why do you say I have my aim on Arheiner? I said he is someone I would be looking at, but I am far more interested in Shas'o vera.
On an unconnected note, I'll be going back and looking through the last couple of pages before the last night phase before deciding whether to stick on Shas' or whether anyone else has snuck into first place in front of him. I still think Shas is a good bet, but reckon I have changed my mind about a few other people a bit and maybe I can find a better one...
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