Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Dorn, Vulkan and Sanguinius. All the way.

Who is he?

I've never really learned how to answer that.

What?

Who is Conan?

Deadshot wrote:Who?Conan?

I assume that Omegus is comparing Russ to Conan the Barbarian. Granted, I'm not really sure why, but that's my guess.

And what he is saying is basically true, in that during Magnus and Russ' fight, Magnus was holding the upper-hand throughout the entire fight (Until the end), but Magnus was also focusing on more than Russ, also fighting the wolves that he brought (Proving that Russ has roughly the same concept of honorable combat as the Joker from The Dark Knight), and using his powers to kill the Space Wolves that made an attempt on going going around the battle to finish off the weakened Thousand Sons. Russ then flailed wildly, and scored a lucky hit on Magnus' eye, blinding him, which enabled Russ to grapple Magnus, and end the fight by breaking him over his knee.

Whether Tzeentch orchestrated this or not I can't say, it's possible, but nothing is said either way that I can recall.

Ah, I thought you were asking who I was!

Shadowbrand wrote:Leman Russ, this man did things his way. And was basically Conan in space. He fished up the great Kraken from the seas of Fenris and threw it back in because he thought it was too small. And broke Magnus's back on his knee. And went in -after- Magnus and the Thousand sons with the 13th Company.

from wich he never returned!

Oh, now I see where the Conan comparison comes from.

Conan was also a skilled, cunning thief, and a wise, capable ruler, not just a drunken barbarian.

So not sure the comparison to Russ is accurate.

Given Russ didn't always keep a level head, there are still much worse leaders to be found.

I quoted the wrong person, Shadowbrand had compared him to Conan.

Shadowbrand wrote:Leman Russ, this man did things his way. And was basically Conan in space. He fished up the great Kraken from the seas of Fenris and threw it back in because he thought it was too small. And broke Magnus's back on his knee. And went in -after- Magnus and the Thousand sons with the 13th Company.

My response was basically pointing out that Russ beat Magnus through either sheer blind luck or the machinations of Tzeench, and according to some fluff he was dying when he finally went off into the Warp.

Or just a tool?

A tool, both in the derogatory and literal sense. He is the epitome of a useful idiot. Strong, smart enough to get most jobs within reason done, but not so much to be a threat outside of direct physical conflict. Willing to disregard inconvenient beliefs or become an outright hypocrite to achieve the mission. Single minded, predictable, and tough. The emperors attack dog is very much apt with Russ.

i voted Night Haunter but i also love Fullgrim his fluff is amazing...its my fave book!!

i voted for horus

LoneLictor wrote:In my opinion, Horus was the best in terms of overall intelligence and charisma which was why he was the Emperor's favorite.

Of course, Leman Russ and Angron are still better fighters, Magnus a stronger psyker and AlphariusOmegon and Reboute Gulliman better Generals, but overall Horus was the best.

Horus was the first. That's why he's the favourite.

It was stated that they all represented a facet of the Emperor-Magnus his power and quest for knowledge, Rogal Dorn his honour etc.

Horus was his ambition. Kinda lame.

Space Hounds didn't sound as cool, I guess.

Omegus wrote:Space Hounds didn't sound as cool, I guess.

Man you really don't like dogs do you.

Well any ways Russ for me seems to get so much more attention and hey, luck is as good of a weapon as any.



Automatically Appended Next Post:

Omegus wrote:Anyone voting for Russ has never read any of the Black Library material. We can forgive these children their blind ignorance, it is not their fault.

Or maybe they have, and fine him a bad@$$.
Have you read all the SW books?


Also I can Magnus was just a giant cry baby one little knock in the eye and a smack down and hes crumped and beaten, while Russ was stabbed through the heart by his mind powers, Which tells me Magnus can't take the pain.

At least Magnus is definitely alive and kicking.

iproxtaco wrote:At least Magnus is definitely alive and kicking.

Well Russ is probably alive and definately kicking...ass.

im2randomghgh wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:At least Magnus is definitely alive and kicking.

Well Russ is probably alive and definately kicking...ass.

No one has any idea of Russ's status. He could be dead in a ditch on an anonymous Daemon World for all we know. At least, as the reader, we know that Magnus is alive.

Mortarion is the greatest I would say he is now the strongest primarch since Horus is dead.

black templar wrote:Mortarion is the greatest I would say he is now the strongest primarch since Horus is dead.

After he was backhanded by a single Grey Knight? It took about a hundred to take Angron and his goons downs.

And all of the GKs died, IIRC.

1 or 2 survived,and managed to kill him.IIRC,they were some high level GK,and they barely made it.

iproxtaco wrote:

black templar wrote:Mortarion is the greatest I would say he is now the strongest primarch since Horus is dead.

After he was backhanded by a single Grey Knight? It took about a hundred to take Angron and his goons downs.

What grey knight was this?????

black templar wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:

black templar wrote:Mortarion is the greatest I would say he is now the strongest primarch since Horus is dead.

After he was backhanded by a single Grey Knight? It took about a hundred to take Angron and his goons downs.

What grey knight was this?????

Draigo.

Where does it say he beat a primarch look here it does not tell you. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kaldor_Draigo

It's in the GK Codex.

The previous GK Supreme Grand Master was killed by Morty,then that made Draigo the Supreme.He jumps over,kills Mortarion,and his first official act as Supreme Grand Master was to carve the name of the previous one into Morty'as heart.

Deadshot wrote:The previous GK Supreme Grand Master was killed by Morty,then that made Draigo the Supreme.He jumps over,kills Mortarion,and his first official act as Supreme Grand Master was to carve the name of the previous one into Morty'as heart.

Mortarion is not dead his is on the plague planet in the eye of terror. This confussing me

When we say he 'killed' him, we mean he was banished.