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 warboss wrote:
The upcoming Picard show will be on Amazon Prime outside of North America. Lol, yet again those of us in the US are screwed the hardest by CBS All Access. I have a subscription to both Netflix and Amazon Prime but I'd either have to buy VPN access or CBS All Access to watch. It's a good thing that I'm not particularly keen on STD so can wait till Picard is over to binge both during a free week preview.

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Is different in the UK. At least for the time being

Pretty sure I'll be ditching Netflix and NowTV when Disney+ comes out though.

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I plan to just double down on not watching stuff.

   
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Will give that a watch after Dark Fate's trailer

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Video is unavailable?

   
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...uh, dunno why they pulled that.

via-description from :

https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-trek-picards-first-teaser-hints-at-jean-lucs-trag-1834978016

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"! This video is unavailable."

Not sure if that is a regional thing or if they removed it but I can't watch it here in the US.

   
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If any of you want to vomit and then fuel the rest of your day with bile, I'd suggest reading that article.


   
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Yeah... I'm all for a psychological exploration of a great character, but... the people making this know that psychological exploration stories don't necessitate grim scenery, brooding dialogue, and characters overcoming depression, right? You can totally do deep character exploration without heroic BSOD. Honestly, doing psychological exploration through BSOD is like the laziest most uninventive way of doing it.

This series continues the trend of convincing me the people currently developing Star Trek don't actually like Star Trek and wish they were working on some other franchise.

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"greatest rescue armada" - Romulan homeworld?

EDIT - apparently yes (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-patrick-stewarts-picard-series-reveals-new-details-1174452)

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Well, I for one am intrigued.

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Direct link.

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The crappy CGI robots don't really add anything. I assume they were added in at the last minute. "How will they know it's the future if we don't have a flying thing".

We kind of know who Picard is because of TNG. I'm not sure what else can possibly be said. The films only really detracted from it all and I can't imagine this fairing any better.






The only thing I could perhaps see him being so broken about is losing his old crew, perhaps they are all in command of their own ships when Romulus is destroyed. I mean I hope that's explained better too. I'm salty that they are still going with JJ timeline.

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Video is unavailable?

Watched with sound off...um is that Star Trek or a Napa Valley winery commercial. I now have the urge to go to the Steiner Ranch steakhouse, finish a steak and watch the sunset with a nice Port.

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Why did you leave Star Fleet!

He retired to enjoy growing grapes and making wine, there need be no other reason.

Why couldn't they just take the story forward?

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Too early to tell. About the only thing that I can say from the "leaked" set images is that, unlike STD, the uniforms are ok. They're different but still reminiscent/inspired by the post-TNG ones similar to both variants of the JJverse uniforms were to TOS. At least they haven't screwed that up (yet).

   
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Thats not bloody Burnham asking the questions is it?

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Thats not bloody Burnham asking the questions is it?


It sounded pretty close to me, but maybe it is actually her.

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Thats not bloody Burnham asking the questions is it?



Dear god I hope she has nothing to do with the series.

   
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Anyone else get the feeling that this is going to be Logan level of depressing television but IN SPAAAAACCCCEEEEE.
   
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 Compel wrote:
Anyone else get the feeling that this is going to be Logan level of depressing television but IN SPAAAAACCCCEEEEE.


If it were anything like Logan, I'd probably be okay with it cause Logan knew how the manage itself well. We could only hope to give Picard that same kind of send off, even if the tone is out of wack with the rest of Star Trek.

   
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LordofHats wrote:Yeah... I'm all for a psychological exploration of a great character, but... the people making this know that psychological exploration stories don't necessitate grim scenery, brooding dialogue, and characters overcoming depression, right? You can totally do deep character exploration without heroic BSOD. Honestly, doing psychological exploration through BSOD is like the laziest most uninventive way of doing it.

This series continues the trend of convincing me the people currently developing Star Trek don't actually like Star Trek and wish they were working on some other franchise.


BSOD? Is this one of those TVTropes things that people who quote it think that everyone else had the time and boredom to memorize that entire site?


I have no idea what to think of this based on the trailer and the interviews thus far, but I'm not having the happiest feeling...

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 Just Tony wrote:
BSOD? Is this one of those TVTropes things that people who quote it think that everyone else had the time and boredom to memorize that entire site?


It predates TVTropes like most things, though the term itself literally comes from "Blue Screen of Death" and refers to characters (namely the heroes) habit of reacting to shocking events by shutting down and withdrawing. Like for example, giving up on Star Fleet. What on earth would ever make Captain "Let me preach to you now our virtues" Picard ever give up on Star Fleet when being assimilated, torn down a dozen times only to say "feth you" I believe, and all the other stuff he experienced didn't? It just kind of stretches my willingness to be interested because it feels completely out of place with the character and like a choice that was made just so they could set a "dark and gritty" tone because that's the cliche with "psychological" stories written by people with limited creativity.

I have no idea what to think of this based on the trailer and the interviews thus far, but I'm not having the happiest feeling...


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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I mean, we knew this was coming. It was never going to be anything else given Kurtzman's track record and the talent puddle that CBS presently deigns to call a writer's room.

Looks like they're using the JJVerse "Countdown" comic uniforms, which are at least better than STDs.

I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it - and I'll be waiting to do that all in one go, better to rip the band aid off - but nothing we've seen or heard as of yet indicates this is going to appeal.

What really sticks in the craw is Kurtzman trying to evoke Roddenberry to sell this concept as somehow being in-keeping with Trek's previous spirit of optimism. Jog on you hack. This is the trouble with execs like Kurtzman, they see an IP as just a collection of bits that can be stripped down, rearranged, and then stapled back together again - "It's got phasers and com badges and the actor who played Picard is in it and he's playing a character called Picard, what are you nerds whinging about?!".

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He knows exactly what we all come back to Star Trek for: the tragedy.


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Roddenberry famously insisted every character interaction full of conflict, the future painted in suffering.

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 Formosa wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Thats not bloody Burnham asking the questions is it?



Dear god I hope she has nothing to do with the series.


Well if ti is - we now know who the show is about - title or not......Maybe she is trying to find out why everyone isnot as awesome as her.....

Hopefully another actress just sounds the same.

Not sure why its odd that a guy gets old and retires to do what he enjoys....maybe its all set in a retirement home.

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Seems to be common theme. It translates as pure laziness rather than actual inability.
   
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