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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 19:19:52
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Is there anywhere I can buy the new CSM codex for cheaply (and legally).
We didn't ask for a hardcover, nor did we ask for full color, and we sure as hell did not ask fro the $50 rice tag it comes with.
I refuse to feed into GW's price inflation on this. I'll accept most, but not this.
Does anyone know where we can get it cheaper?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 19:21:35
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Nigel Stillman
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ebay?
One of the discount online retailers out there (some of whom advertise on dakka)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 19:22:44
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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Online retailers like Miniature Market can get it to you for like 37.50
Beyond that, just wait a while then try to pick it up used from someone. If you don't like the direction, the best you can do is not giving GW your money.
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“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 19:22:57
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Your gif on your sig surmises what you have just told me valiantly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:38:36
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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How much are they on itunes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:44:04
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I don't think Itunes sells codices, legally anyway.
GW has been coming out with some electronic copies of certain books(and will eventually have everything avaliable that way) but they arn't any cheaper. Although one perk is that they automatically update with FAQs and WD additions(so if an Errata changes the wording of something it will automatically change in your E-codex)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:44:44
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Youre in the wrong hobby if youre not willing to accept wallet rape.
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BLACK TEMPLARS - 2000 0RkZ - 2000 NIDZ - WIP STEEL LEGION - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:47:18
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Yeah, this is not the hobby for those who can't part with their cash.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:55:18
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Noticed the "Art of Halo" in the bookstore the other day. 200 pages, hardcover, and in full color with highly detailed pages. Was $20.....
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My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:00:47
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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True, there is no reason for GW codicies to cost as much as they do. But they arn't prohibitivly expensive yet.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:22:15
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Their products ARE excessively priced but you should be fully prepared to accept that fact from the moment you walk into a hobby shop and look at a pricetag. But if GW werent so ham fisted with their products and actually attempted to branch out into advertising, merch, media outlets, etc... The influx of new consumers would justify a price decrease. Until they smarten up you better be putting in some overtime at work.
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BLACK TEMPLARS - 2000 0RkZ - 2000 NIDZ - WIP STEEL LEGION - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:25:14
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Actually, if you compare GW models to other miniature companies that put out similer quality you will see that GW prices are actually very competitive.
For example, the Thundertusk/Stonehorn model. if you've ever seen one in person it is fantastically detailed, comes with a wealth of equipment options, loads of extra bits, and can build one of two completely different models. its also plastic.
other model companies would probably charge $150 for something like that. GW sells it for $57.75
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:39:29
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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I never quite got the sentiment that if you want to play warhammer you better be ready to just pour money on it. With a little research you can easily save a TON of money and still have everything you need to play.
Given ample time I could easily amass a large force for 50 bucks. With a hundred I could get an army, it's codex, and the current rule book. You have to cut corners, you might have to wait a small amount of time, and you might have to put some effort into it, but it's very possible and I think all this money or gtfo talk is detrimental to the community.
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“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
― Jonathan Safran Foer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:41:52
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Yes, but the guy with the Halo book example was spot on. The books are absurd, and the move to hardcover was just an upsell. Im well aware of what their doing (I do it every day at work) and yes Im fully prepared to pay it. GW has me by the balls and I dont complain lol
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BLACK TEMPLARS - 2000 0RkZ - 2000 NIDZ - WIP STEEL LEGION - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:42:59
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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You have 3 options:
1: Pay for it
2: Throw your morale compass out the window
3: Quit the hobby
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:45:34
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Necrosis wrote:You have 3 options:
1: Pay for it
2: Throw your morale compass out the window
3: Quit the hobby
4: Ask for it as a present from someone(s)
5: Find a group that will let you play with the old codex
6: Proxy your chaos force using another codex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:46:32
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Yes, you can save money. But you will still pay a fair amount.
You arn't going to find 80% discounts except on second hand crappy paint jobs, thats for sure.
new kits can be found in online retailers for as much as 25% and I've seen some occasionally higher.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:49:06
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
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Oh, I very much agree. I like to buy pen and paper rpg books for the reading content alone. Take for example White Wolf's Mage the Awakening game.
For 35 bucks, you get 400 pages in hardcover with semi colored innards. In those 400 pages you get various short stories, a crazy rpg system, and a gak ton of ideas and material to inspire creativity in other outlets.
For 50 bucks, GW gives you a hardcover with colored innards, rehashed fluff, some pages of new stuff regarding new units, about a page worth of weapon and equipment stats, and unit info comprised of numbers and what you can do with them.
There's a very obviously something wrong with this picture.
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Grey Templar wrote:You arn't going to find 80% discounts except on second hand crappy paint jobs, thats for sure.
You can and I have. Guy sold me 700 dollars worth of vampire counts for 150. The only thing wrong with them? No extra bits, it was all preassembled, and some had a light coat of white primer.
I also got a similiar deal on tyranids before. 500 dollars worth for like 95 bucks. Some where in bad condition, but about 80% of the lot was metal. For about 8 dollars you can buy a container of acetone, and all those metal models come out practically brand new.
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“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
― Jonathan Safran Foer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/07/01 01:00:30
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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But the books look soooooo sexy on my bookshelf
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 22:46:04
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Cipher Games should have a decent deal on the Chaos Codex whenever they get around to having it available on their site.
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 00:18:47
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
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You're experience grabbing sweet deals is not the norm so don't try and pass it off as something that happens everyday. I took 2 years gathering just the basics of a chaos army for about 150 and got about 500 bucks worth. Two years. The army I wanted. Not including tanks of any sort or even a full bike squad. Sure I've got a 2000 pt army, but it took a lot of time and most of it was poorly painted. Its really not worth the time. Yes it can be done, but you're giving false hope with such an off handed,"This is how I did it."
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:This line of reasoning broke 7th edition in Fantasy. The books should be as equal as possible, even a theoretical "Codex: Squirrels with Crustacean allies" should have a fair chance to beat "Codex: God".
Redbeard wrote:
- Cost? FW models cost more? Because Thudd guns are more expensive than Wraithknights and Riptides. Nope, not a good argument. This is an expensive game. We play it knowing that, and also knowing that, realistically, it's cheaper than hookers and blow. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 00:25:27
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Crystal Geyser wrote:Is there anywhere I can buy the new CSM codex for cheaply (and legally).
We didn't ask for a hardcover, nor did we ask for full color, and we sure as hell did not ask fro the $50 rice tag it comes with.
I refuse to feed into GW's price inflation on this. I'll accept most, but not this.
Does anyone know where we can get it cheaper?
Quit your whining. If you want it, go buy it. If you are going to cry over what you "didn't ask for", then sell your minis and go home.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 00:25:29
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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It's the norm if you put effort into it. Set trade values, make estimates, low ball, it's not hard. It takes longer, and sometimes much longer to get than simply buying it straight out, but I've done it numerous times, and it's because I put time and effort into doing.
You're being pessimistic and trying to pass it off as realistic. This isn't winning the lottery, this is learning how to barter.
Edit - Also, it being not worth the time is your opinion on the matter, not fact. I take great pride in getting miniatures people discard because of poor paint jobs, put minimum effort into salvaging them, and painting them up and getting compliments on a job well done. That to me is worth the time.
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“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 00:31:52
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You have to do it on the cheap in Australia... or sell your soul/get it for christmas. What's funny is that my "Marvel Encyclopedia" was a third of the price of my 40k book. "Australia through time" (Which is double the size) was a quarter.
Both are full colour.
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"There's a difference between bein' a smartboy and bein' a smart git, Gimzod." - Rogue Skwadron, the Big Push
My Current army lineup |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 01:17:18
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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...If you want to play the game with new stuff bought directly from GW, you've got to be willing to accept some amount of wallet rape; it's a matter of monopoly power. They're the only avenue to get to the rules/miniatures new/at release, they're going to be able to charge whatever they want.
The alternative, involving less wallet rape, is to get stuff used. I'm looking at a person selling twenty five Tactical Marines (assembled and partially painted) for six bucks on Ebay right now; $7.50 for four Terminators; that sort of thing, but you have got to expect silly prices if you're going to buy things straight from the only source.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 01:21:41
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Want it, buy it, play it. Repeat.
Welcome to GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 01:26:14
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Regular Dakkanaut
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even as a non-chaos player, im incredibly surprised that you guys think $50 is far too expensive (more so if you're in the hobby already)
The codex looks bloody great, colour, hard cover, quality...
I paid $124 for the rulebook down here in AU, and i thought 'holy jesus thats expensive', but i can really see the quality of it after a while, and can even say that it's worth the $124...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 02:47:47
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Norn Queen
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You don't think so? Only 2 so far though.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/24 02:48:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 02:48:47
Subject: Re:Outrageous Chaos Codex
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Forgot which publisher GW was using for their E-codices.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 02:49:51
Subject: Outrageous Chaos Codex
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Norn Queen
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Man you're quick. I changed the text a bit right after I posted.
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