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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/17 22:33:39
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ok well im going to try get this going properly then, if someone came up to you and said, me, you tomorrow, 4000 points of madness, what would you field....
Here's my list
Mephiston 250
Dante 225
Reclusiarch Jp 155
2 x Sanguinary Priest PW, Brother Corbulo, 285
Sternguard 5 x Combi Plasmas 150
Furioso Dreadnought Blood Talons,Heavy Flamer, Magna-Grapple 150
Sanguinary Guard Death Masks, PF and IP 245
Sanguinary Guard Death Masks, Chapter Banner, IP 265
10 x Terminator Assualt squad, Sgt. Th/SS 4 x TH/SS 5 x LC 425
Land Raider Crusader Multi Melta, Hunter Killer 270
Scout squad, snipers, camo cloaks, missile launchers 100
Scout squad, snipers, camo cloaks, missile launchers 100
30 x Death Company, JP 1050
Stormraven TLLC, TLMM 200
Devastators 4 x ML 130
Being played on Friday as my last game of 40k for a year..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 13:05:05
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Sneaky Lictor
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post 1.
I know this may seem an odd place for it, but I think its appropriate. I wanted to let everyone know that I appreciate their advice/opinions on how BA runs now.
I have played with my friends for a year or so but have never bought a single model or book. When GW released 6th I realized that it was the perfect time to REALLY start playing the game.
Finally bought some models, read the 6e rulebook, and trying to REALLY see how to work the system.
I finally feel like I have decent grasp on the mechanics now, how the games fuses with the BA list of units. Especially after reading this forum.
The one thing I am known for at our table….making unbelievable drops. I hardly ever miss a scatter roll. STUFF LANDS WHERE I TELL IT TO LAND…..how convenient.
Again. Thanks guys/girls.
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Do you have enough Termagaunts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 16:40:20
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Pious Palatine
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What list do you roll with g0atsticks? And at what point level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 18:47:25
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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Cool man, looks nice. Yep, 6th saves the day with making deep strike less hazardous.
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Laziness is no excuse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 20:37:41
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Sneaky Lictor
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we share a pool of units. this is an expensive "hobby". 1k is standard. this is my list
Libby w/ JP blood lance, shield of sanguin
sanguim priest w/ JP
10x a sqd 2 melta PF
10x a sqd 2 melta PF
5 scout 5w/camo cloak & sniper rifle
5 dev sqd 3 missile
5 dev sqd 3 missile
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On building Tyranid army flow chart.
Do you have enough Termagaunts?
No > Add More
Yes > No you don' t > Add more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 21:11:59
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Pious Palatine
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It is a rather expensive hobby isn't it? That's why I squeeze as much 'hobby' out of it as I can, it takes me ages to get anything painted!
Cool lists. So, I assume you've been DSing the assault squads, with libby and priest attached. Leaving your Devs to control the board with their range and letting the scouts sit on an objective and snipe units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 23:18:59
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Sneaky Lictor
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i'm still a newbie, and will be for sometime. my friends are much better than I, and the learning curve is extremely steep.
one of them hardly ever loses with his heavy mech/assault chaos marines. it always seems like he has enough of everything, and you never enough.
any suggestions how to destroy them?
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On building Tyranid army flow chart.
Do you have enough Termagaunts?
No > Add More
Yes > No you don' t > Add more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 01:11:45
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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A good but dick way is run a GK RazorLasCannon Paladin army. 40 grunts, 4 or more Razors with LCs, I think Stern? I cant remember the whole list, fought against it and it was pretty tough.
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Laziness is no excuse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 12:48:35
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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With the new Codex dropping for Chaos Space Marines soon, what your friend is doing may very well change. However, giving an idea of what his list and/or tactics are would facilitate the discussion.
No offense to Sirmauz, but you do not have change factions to Grey Knights in order to win over Chaos. This a Blood Angels thread, and we will present a Blood Angels solution.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 04:18:13
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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Never said that Goeh. If you want a BA solution, I can offer some of that as well, I was trying to let Goat know about a gnarly list I fought against, and that battle has nothing to do with Chaos. Automatically Appended Next Post: And as for that issue, if you deal with a lotta Mech/Assault check out the Sanguinary Guard list I put up, play testing, it works pretty well on tankers. DS the fellas in close (you only scatter a d6) and go to town with pfists and inpistols.
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Laziness is no excuse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 13:18:29
Subject: Re:6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Freaky Flayed One
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Hi thought I'd post my list here to get a bit of feedback as I've got some great info from it so far!
HQ
Reclusiarch - 130 (with the death company to give re rolls to hit and wound on the charge)
ELITES
Sanguinary Priest (x3, x3 power swords, jump packs) - 270 (one with each assault squad for feel no pain)
TROOPS
Death Company (x7) - 140 (with reclusiarch in the storm raven)
Death Company Dreadnought (blood talons, meltagun, storm bolter) - 125 (also in the storm raven)
Assault Squad (x10, x2 meltaguns) - 210
Assault Squad (x10, x2 meltaguns) - 210
Assault Squad (x10, x2 meltaguns) - 210
TROOPS
Storm Raven (TL multi-melta, TL plasma cannon) - 200
= 1500pts
I'm used to guard and necrons so primarily shooting, and so to me this seems a bit light on that front... should I be including more things like devastator squads or vindicators to make up for that?
I was also worried about scoring units with blood angels which is why I have the 3 10 man assault squads with the priests, they will be resilient hopefully and able to have enough presence in objective games.
The Storm Raven with death company is risky, and I may start the dread on the ground but then it can just get shot up. I do like this way of deployment for them though it fits the image in my head of blood angels.
This list isn't looking to be competitive, it's mainly for fun and coolness as I have my other armies for that - just looking for feedback whether it's viable though and areas I could improve on?
All I have so far are a dreadnought (not built), Sanguinary Guard x5, Dante, Lemartes, a chaplain, death company x5... so I am only just building this up. Wanted to build a list before purchasing.
Thanks for reading and any advice!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/01 18:56:16
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Recently had a Planetstrike with my BA on the defence, alongside SW and DA. We won 11 (or 12) VP to 0, and I didn't think my guys would do so well on the ground, but we completely tabled them, big boost of my confidence in BA for 6th ed
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No one Provokes me with Impunity
Atlas' Blood Oath - In progress, 22W 14L 4T (2012) - 14W 6L 0T (2013)
Craftworld Mymeara 440 points - in progress (....sort of a given ) - 4W 2L 0T (2013)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/01 21:57:23
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Pious Palatine
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Wow, you really gave them what-for.
Details & list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 00:59:51
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Adam, are you used to playing against or with necron and guard? If its against maybe go with flamers on one of your squads, all in all though that's a pretty scary list.
Titan- any chance of a list? I played a 3k planetstrike game with blood angels against chaos, but I was attacking, blood angels are scary on the attack! I had everything bar one assault termie squad come down turn 1! I had wiped my opponent out by turn 3. So it looks like we can be devastating in all areas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 18:21:59
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Titan Atlas wrote:Recently had a Planetstrike with my BA on the defence, alongside SW and DA. We won 11 (or 12) VP to 0, and I didn't think my guys would do so well on the ground, but we completely tabled them, big boost of my confidence in BA for 6th ed 
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Atlas [Librarian] (Epistolary, Terminator Armour, Storm Shield) [Invisibility, Hallucination]
ELITES
3x Sanguinary Priests (2x Jump Pack, 1x Brother Corbulo)
5x Assault Terminators ( TH/ SS)
5x Assault Terminators ( TH/ SS)
TROOPS
10x Assault Squad (2x Flamer, Veteran Sergeant with 2x Hand Flamer and Melta Bombs)
10x Assault Squad (2x Flamer, Veteran Sergeant with 2x Hand Flamer and Melta Bombs)
10x Assault Squad (2x Meltagun, Veteran Sergeant with Power Weapon and Bolt Pistol)
FAST ATTACK
Land Speeder (2x Multi-melta)
HEAVY SUPPORT
Stormraven Gunship ( TLAC, TLMM)
Stormraven Gunship ( TLAC, TLMM)
To be fair, the Dark Angels took the brunt of the attacks, while the Assault Marines jumped around and harassed the enemy from the backline. I'm not sure if I'd necessarily run this sort of list myself in a non-team game though, since it was designed to work in concert with 2 other lists to make up for its weaknesses (such as lack of anti-tank, both close and ranged).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 05:01:16
Subject: Re:6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Looking at the new Chaos book I can definitely say that going all foot now for us is rather bad because the Heldrake really messes up all backfield scoring units and even Jump Infantry we might have in the middle of the board. It'll wipe us out pretty easily even with FNP. It looks like in order for BA to survive we have to good at being a Hybrid army of both mech and foot. I'm having a hard time hybridizing Blood Angels. Its so difficult to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 06:01:56
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Sneaky Lictor
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ok guys i played tonight against space wolves.
heres my list. i heeded most of your advice, or tried to.
HQ - Tycho
8 DC 4w/PF
in a DP
SRG - standard
2 rhinos
2- 10 man AS 2 melta 1 PF
1 rhino
1-10 man AS 2 hand flamer 1 PF
Drop Pod
10 Sternguard Vets 2 melta 7 combi 1 plasma pistol
we played short sided purge the alien
turn one. drop sternguard, split squads in to 2 5 man squads. destroy 1 land raider crusader w/ one volley, and take out a dreadnaught with the second.
it was down hill for him after that loss. pretty easy win for me and very awesome strategy. thanks for whoever suggested it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 13:48:53
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels (UPDATED! OP with army lists up for commentary/usage! updated July 20)
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I've been working with a solid DA Allies list that complements the BA pretty well. Will post list soon.
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No one Provokes me with Impunity
Atlas' Blood Oath - In progress, 22W 14L 4T (2012) - 14W 6L 0T (2013)
Craftworld Mymeara 440 points - in progress (....sort of a given ) - 4W 2L 0T (2013)
DQ:90S++G+M-B--IPw40k13++D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/20 10:27:34
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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I wzs just thinking of a similiar list "Dual Angels" is what I was naming it. Doubt our lists are similiar, I was thinking about a heavy dropods list with Deathwing assault allies. don't know if I like it atm, brought to stormravens for added effect, but I think this list is going to have to go the "ignore the flyers" route for victory.
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Inquisitor Jex wrote:Yeah, telling people how this and that is 'garbage' and they should just throw their minis into the trash as they're not as efficient as XYZ.
Peregrine wrote:So the solution is to lie and pretend that certain options are effective so people will feel better? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/20 13:16:30
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Furious Fire Dragon
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+++ On the Wings of Fury (1390pts) +++ +++ 1390pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: +++ On the Wings of Fury (1390pts) +++ +++ 1390pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: + HQ + (175pts) * Librarian (175pts) Epistolary, The Sanguine Sword, Unleash Rage * Power Armour Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack + Elites + (150pts) * Sanguinary Priests (75pts) * Sanguinary Priest * Power Armour Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Jump Pack * Sanguinary Priests (75pts) * Sanguinary Priest * Power Armour Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Jump Pack + Troops + (665pts) * Assault Squad (225pts) 9x Assault Marines, Meltagun, Meltagun, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon * Assault Squad (220pts) 9x Assault Marines, Flamer, Meltagun, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon * Assault Squad (220pts) 9x Assault Marines, Flamer, Flamer, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant 2x Hand Flamer + Heavy Support + (400pts) * Stormraven Gunship (200pts) Twin Linked Assault Cannon, Twin Linked Heavy Bolters * Stormraven Gunship (200pts) Twin Linked Assault Cannon, Twin Linked Heavy Bolters Created with BattleScribe ( http://www.battlescribe.net) +++ Allied Detachment ( DA) (610pts) +++ +++ 610pt Dark Angels 4th Edition (2007) Roster (Allied Detachment) +++ Selections: + HQ + (130pts) * Belial - Master of The Deathwing (130pts) Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield + Elites + (235pts) * Deathwing Terminator Squad (235pts) Cyclone Missile Launcher (20pts), 4x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield * Sergeant (43pts) Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield + Troops + (245pts) * Deathwing Command Squad (Troops) (245pts) Deathwing Apothecary (30pts), 4x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield * Sergeant (43pts) Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield Created with BattleScribe ( http://www.battlescribe.net)
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No one Provokes me with Impunity
Atlas' Blood Oath - In progress, 22W 14L 4T (2012) - 14W 6L 0T (2013)
Craftworld Mymeara 440 points - in progress (....sort of a given ) - 4W 2L 0T (2013)
DQ:90S++G+M-B--IPw40k13++D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/21 16:34:44
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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To be honest though, Dark Angels are always a solid ally because they're just so damn cheap at the moment for what you get.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/21 21:50:32
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
HIDING IN THE METAL BAWKSES!!
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Andilus Greatsword wrote:To be honest though, Dark Angels are always a solid ally because they're just so damn cheap at the moment for what you get.
Yea, I love having DW termies hold the line while DOA units strike the backfield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/28 06:52:58
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Purged Thrall
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What's the most competitive list that BA can do? Mech seems nice, but so does a pure footslogger army. Would a hybrid list be any good? What have people found to work well, and what doesn't?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 16:05:57
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I am not sure but I think the jury is still out on that one. Mech is still solid though, even with glancing things to death. That being said, I'm not really in it for a competitive experience so don't expect much from me
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No one Provokes me with Impunity
Atlas' Blood Oath - In progress, 22W 14L 4T (2012) - 14W 6L 0T (2013)
Craftworld Mymeara 440 points - in progress (....sort of a given ) - 4W 2L 0T (2013)
DQ:90S++G+M-B--IPw40k13++D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 14:58:08
Subject: Re:6th ed and Blood Angels
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 17:51:11
Subject: Re:6th ed and Blood Angels
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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If you are having success with that list it proves that having an all Jump Pack BA army is dead. In fact having Death Company in a Drop Pod all with Bolters is quite amazing now. I saw someone at my FLGS have that and use it to great success. DC are amazing for being relentless and for the fact that they can use bolters. How has the Tactical Squad with the Plasma Cannon worked out for you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 18:08:25
Subject: Re:6th ed and Blood Angels
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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The plasma Tac squad is like gold. It ensures that nothing gets too close without taking some heat. People dont really know how to respond when you deploy first and only have a tac squad and 2x5 man dev squads babysat by an apothecary behind an Aegis with a quad gun. So they in turn deploy defensively and leave themselves open for the rest of my drop podding / deepstriking / teleporting army to pick apart. I have to say I have NOT been impressed with the Librarian. Powers are hit and miss, and i seem to get the good powers when I dont need them. He is also not killy enough with only 2 force axe attacks.... Think I am just going to go for BA powers or the AP2 smite power, at least those I know I can get and I can then plan to use them more efficiently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 10:03:30
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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I may be a day late and dollar short on this one, but . . .
I have had a lot of success running 2 devastator squads with 4 ML each joined by a Librarian with prescience from the the divination powers.
The versatility of the ML combined with re-rolling to hit works well. Also, prescience is a primaris power. You can count on getting it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 10:59:26
Subject: Re:6th ed and Blood Angels
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Had a game against a CSM with daemon allies yesterday. It is the second time I face this list and I have been utterly destroyed on both occasions. All his units have the mark of nurgle and are toughness five. If this wasn't enough they have defensive grenades which takes your assault extra attack and the Furious charge. Plus with epidimius on table after he kills twenty of my marines all rolls to wound are on 2+. Really have no idea how to deal with this. Will probably post on tactics to get some ideas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 13:30:24
Subject: 6th ed and Blood Angels
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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That's one of the cheesy Daemon/CSM lists making the rounds. They're expressly anti-infantry, so mech-up or shoot them when you can, and don't get your Assault Squads tarpitted.
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