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From what I read of it when flicking through the Beastmen book yesterday, MDG, I can't really say that having Ambush is a selling point

I've got to agree with the chorus saying that the minotaurs look better in person, but I'm still not a big fan of the feet & ankles.

I must be one of the only people to like the painted Minos, I think they look awesome.

The razorgor, I honestly think I could sculpt something better than that.

Reecius wrote:I must be one of the only people to like the painted Minos, I think they look awesome.

The razorgor, I honestly think I could sculpt something better than that.

I agree with you 110%, I actually think the Minos look absolutely beastly, which is a good thing. I am a little angry that they don't look like they do in the art on the cover of the book though. I do agree that they aren't beasts of chaos anymore, and thus shouldn't look like they are, but they do look monstrous. I would still prefer an Ogre revamping instead of starting a Beastmen army however.

Well now that daemons and warriors are a different armies the chaos gods have to focus all their time on them.. its twice the work so of coarse they just gave up hope on beastmen. Rather they give them horribly horrendous bodies that with their skin tone look just...bad... cause nothing screams chaos more than a pissed off pumba...

I kinda like their mutated-looking feet, it's the WTF musculature that bothers me.

I think they look like WWF, juiced out roid head bezerker minotaurs with giant axes, which is awesome!

I bet with a darker paint scheme, they will be pleasing to more people.

I agree a darker colour scheme would make them look better like the old metal ones colour scheme (dark browns and blacks even going as far as a reddish tinge in the fur)

Yeah, I think it is the extreme low lighting that turns people off to them.

Reecius wrote:

The razorgor, I honestly think I could sculpt something better than that.

Better than these beauties ?

With regards to the hooves/lack therefof the new WD, it says

I remember there was a big debate about whether they should have hooves or feet with toes.


Yeah, in the past we've done both but we saw this as an opportunity to really define what a Warhammer Minotaur was like. In Greek myths the Minotaur was very much all man apart from the head, and we took that as our cue. So we made its legs roughly humanoid but gave the feet a cloven appearence by having the toes elongated and splayed out, mirroring that of a real bull's foot.

Started building the Bestigor today.

Kit is quite nice, 5 different bodies, lots of different poses, and rank up nicely. Rather large models as well. Hell, even the standard ranks up, which is a first for me!

More building tomorrow, including Gor, Ungor and the Minotaurs. Will let you know what I think of the assembly. Ungor are to be built as raiders.

Oh my God. I'm laughing to death at those razorgors. Really? REALLY? Look at that roaring tard at the end! The one next to him is all "durp durp durp". Quick, someone get the picture of the 5 cross-eyed dog in photos that say things like "durr hurr" and "derp derp derp" and replace the dog photos with these guys. Jesus Christ those are rediculous. Are they literally making the Beastmen a joke army?

Wow... just... wow. Those almost look like they could be from a 2nd ed. ork army, except they are too silly. If I had seen that picture 2 months ago, I would have called Shop and considered it a funny hoax.

It isn't so funny when it is real, just sad.

Ok... they are still very funny. Do they cause all opponants to swing at Initiative 1 due to laughing hysterically?

Oh FFS...

There is no way that isn't intentional. One goofy sculpt and I can imagine that whoever was in charge of the project just let it slip by. Seeing those others (including the lopsided jaw!) shows whoever was in charge wanted them to look stupid for some reason.

JOHIRA wrote:Oh FFS...

There is no way that isn't intentional. One goofy sculpt and I can imagine that whoever was in charge of the project just let it slip by. Seeing those others (including the lopsided jaw!) shows whoever was in charge wanted them to look stupid for some reason.

Im betting its the same sculptor that made the Lizardmen Cold ones

Looked at the book and that looks great really looking forward to using it actually. The models however are still at the GW gone silly pricing end of the scale. Thats why I'm using Wargames Factory stuff for most of my new Ungor Raider units.....

I've had the minotaurss for well over a week now and from the waist up they are fine (the heads are a little 'blocky')
But the musculature below the knees and the splayed flipper feet are just dumb.

I remember there was a big debate about whether they should have hooves or feet with toes.


Yeah, in the past we've done both but we saw this as an opportunity to really define what a Warhammer Minotaur was like. In Greek myths the Minotaur was very much all man apart from the head, and we took that as our cue. So we made its legs roughly humanoid but gave the feet a cloven appearence by having the toes elongated and splayed out, mirroring that of a real bull's foot.

I'm sorry but my family has several dairy farms and my wifes family have several ranches (to make cattle stations understandable to the US dakkaites) and I've never, ever seen a bull (or cow) have splayed hooves like the GW minotaurs.

Also the razorgors are even worse than the pic when you see them in real life

LunaHound wrote:Im betting its the same sculptor that made the Lizardmen Cold ones

That would be Jes Goodwin. The guy in charge of miniature design IIRC.

No way in hell he sculpted these. I find it hard to believe he would allow these to be sold.

I am betting he got trumped by a bean-counter.

I guess we finally found Nagash's pet puppies!

Wow... Those are right up at the tippy-top of horrible GW sculpts. I thought the Minos were bad (and still do, mind), but wow...

Fortunately, I guess, that means I have some extra money to spend on other stuff. Will not be getting any of those things.

Vale,

JohnS

reds8n wrote:[Pictures]

What are those?
Are they prototype Razorgors?

Thorgut wrote:

reds8n wrote:[Pictures]

What are those?
Are they prototype Razorgors?

Oh, you can bet your bum those are the real deal.

I have a theory on razorgors....

See these were supposed to be the new Orc and Goblin units for the summer campaign , but they saw Beast of Chaos was definitely lacking , so they decided to include these for moral support.

See their silly poses and heads? Reminds you of squig hoppers huh! they'll fit right in...

reds8n wrote:

Reecius wrote:

The razorgor, I honestly think I could sculpt something better than that.

Better than these beauties ?

With regards to the hooves/lack therefof the new WD, it says

Oh. My. God.

That is awesome in it's unbelievable wretchedness!

Those are the worst sculpts I have EVER seen.

Hahahaha, yes, now I can say with total confidence I could sculpt something better!

And razorgor/chariots are one of the better units (stat wise) in the new codex! treason of tzneetch! treason of tzneetch! What twisted strand of fate is this?

Scary...

there's more than one of them?

Multiple poses exist?

I don't know what else to say... some pictures really do speak for themselves.

Quite frankly, it's once again the paintjob throwing off the models.

The eyes make far, far too much comedic insight than the rest of the model does.

Those razorgors are gold. Gold, Jerry, GOLD!

Thanks for posting those pictures. Hysterical.

All joking aside, I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. I mean if it weren't for the $$ involved those things have almost turned the corner from 'horrible' to 'holy gak, these are too hilarious not to use'!

Almost

- Salvage

EDIT: Hahahahaha - I can't look at that unit without cracking up! Man!

How many ways are there to paint the eyes to make it not look silly?

Now we have the crazed squig look

then there could be the total recall look:

Or the anime look: ( im painting them like this )

What the fething feth?

Those Razorggors are just absurdly comical. What's with those eyes? Did anyone in the studio besides the guy who made them and the guy who painted them ever see them before release?

Holy gak...

The one on the left manages to take the infamous "GW Leering Tongue Syndrome" to new depths of awful too...