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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 05:07:44
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Possibly. But keep in mind, by this point in the last KS, they hadn't even broke 300k. Thus far, this one is outperforming the last. If it matches the last one (and the first day amounts to about 1/3 of the total) then we'd be looking at 1.2 million, give or take.
I sincerely hope we get them all unlocked though, either through funding or generous placement of the goalposts. There are a few characters I don't want to have to pledge without.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 05:13:25
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Barzam wrote:Oh cool, they're going to offer male components for their Dark Elf/Eldar troops. I may eventually have to put in more money.
The phrasing you use Is open to certain ambiguities...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 06:57:35
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Like I said, someone calculated a tiny 1.5 million $ for every stretch goals to be unlocked... 1/3 there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 07:05:12
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I'm trying to figure out how that freebie figure is even going to stand. Is it supposed to be human sized?
I'm left scratching my head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 07:17:03
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As a resin miniature, is it quite possible to pose her that way. Probably standing on a stone :x
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 07:42:16
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Hallowed Canoness
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Or flight stand
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 08:10:29
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Jimsolo wrote:Possibly. But keep in mind, by this point in the last KS, they hadn't even broke 300k. Thus far, this one is outperforming the last. If it matches the last one (and the first day amounts to about 1/3 of the total) then we'd be looking at 1.2 million, give or take.
I sincerely hope we get them all unlocked though, either through funding or generous placement of the goalposts. There are a few characters I don't want to have to pledge without.
I'm with you Jim, I'd like to see quite a bit more unlocked. I pledged a EB general....But That was assuming most would get unlocked. According to my spreadsheet I made I still have about 600 left to spend on stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 08:43:04
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Jimsolo wrote:Unfortunately there's a fine line between body horror and torture porn, and I'm still trying to decide which side the centaurs fall on, at least for me.
Personally, I just don't like the execution. There's a monster in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines that is similar in concept, and I wonder whether that configuration would look better.
I might start up DAZ later and see what I can come up with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 08:52:20
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:
IN HERALD NEWS:
I got nothing. No marching orders or new information as of this time. Any questions you guys have for me to put towards the team?
What's happening with the Digital Art Book from KS1? Especially since it's a thing again here in KS2
Can people "piggyback" on other people's pledges to save on shipping? ie 2x Lieutenant, Lieutenant + Captain, etc?
Can people pledge a buck now and upgrade to a higher tier pledge later in the PM?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 08:58:06
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Could you ask them if there is any kind of reasoning between the stretchgoals? They seem completely random. Shouldn't they build up on the basic troopers and THAN go after the stranger and rarer minis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 09:17:21
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Azazelx wrote: KalashnikovMarine wrote:
IN HERALD NEWS:
I got nothing. No marching orders or new information as of this time. Any questions you guys have for me to put towards the team?
What's happening with the Digital Art Book from KS1? Especially since it's a thing again here in KS2
I asked them this on Facebook and got this reply:
For the Artbook, we are waiting to have more TGG minis painted so that we can include them in the Artbook. We've got some troops painted, but not all yet, and some Heroines, but not all either, and no Support yet. So it will still take a bit more time, but it will include sculpts and painted minis,
instead of only concepts. We asked our backers via Updates if they wanted all the 3D sculpts and painted models too, and the majority said yes, hence the delay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 09:26:10
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Digital Artwork ... painted Miniatures.. does not compute.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 09:36:40
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Well I guess they want to show the progress from concept to final painted miniature.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 10:03:29
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Speed Drybrushing
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:Nothing back from RH on the Daughters or the KOC. Sorry lads. I'll keep pestering them.
Anything else people want addressed or clarified?
Yeah I would really love if some of the non-human sized models were given a scale, like how big is the spider mother (mainly is it definitely as I suspect a soulgrinder size), or the centaurs or the avatar of shaah as that's one frigging expensive keeper of secrets if the spider mother is soul grinder scale... but I can't know for sure if it is!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 10:37:04
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Hallowed Canoness
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RoninXiC wrote:Could you ask them if there is any kind of reasoning between the stretchgoals? They seem completely random. Shouldn't they build up on the basic troopers and THAN go after the stranger and rarer minis?
I can tell you the answer to that without asking. It's all artistry! I'll pass it along with the rest of the lot any way just to get an official response.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
DR:90-SG+M+B+I+Pw40k12+ID+++A+++/are/WD-R+++T(S)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 11:20:07
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Azazelx wrote:
What's happening with the Digital Art Book from KS1? Especially since it's a thing again here in KS2
Can people "piggyback" on other people's pledges to save on shipping? ie 2x Lieutenant, Lieutenant + Captain, etc?
Can people pledge a buck now and upgrade to a higher tier pledge later in the PM?
Suposedly the art book will be done last (for KS1) so it ends up with the most art..... but when? who knows
I don't think you could get multiple levels (eg Captain and Major) on a single account (and given the number of freebies I'd be pretty certain you would not get those doubled up even if you could)
You could certainly add cash in the first KS, so it seem likely that you will be able to this time (but I can't see anything specific), but I'd suggest $15 for the private pledge as that will certainly get you ont the PM (where a $1 is not an actual pledge level and will normally not get your info passed on by KS unless the project creator makes special arrangements
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 11:23:25
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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feth you it's art art and they're french
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 12:55:46
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Ruthless Rafkin
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See, the Centaurs are the thing I like the most about this. I would use them as Daemonettes riding Steeds.
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40k is about slamming two slegdehammers together and hoping the other breaks first. Malifaux is about fighting with scalpels trying to hit select areas and hoping you connect more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 13:44:44
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I find this entire Kickstarter to be utterly confusing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 13:45:52
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Some traditions should be kept around after all.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 13:46:58
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Confessor Of Sins
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RoninXiC wrote:As a resin miniature, is it quite possible to pose her that way. Probably standing on a stone :x
I thought it'd be one of those "Solitaire" pose, using that "robe", slightly lying on the ground, as a stand for the model. (By making it a "strong" robe too... )
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DA:80-S+G+M+B++I-Pw40k01++D+++A+++WD100R++T(T)DM+
Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 16:52:49
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Opening up a $168 right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 18:27:22
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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Yay another good suggestion added to the front page. spoilered caus its big here
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 18:33:02
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Copenhagen
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rayphoton wrote: Jimsolo wrote:Possibly. But keep in mind, by this point in the last KS, they hadn't even broke 300k. Thus far, this one is outperforming the last. If it matches the last one (and the first day amounts to about 1/3 of the total) then we'd be looking at 1.2 million, give or take.
I sincerely hope we get them all unlocked though, either through funding or generous placement of the goalposts. There are a few characters I don't want to have to pledge without.
I'm with you Jim, I'd like to see quite a bit more unlocked. I pledged a EB general....But That was assuming most would get unlocked. According to my spreadsheet I made I still have about 600 left to spend on stuff.
D'oh, when I was considering a little pledge it seems everything I thought about getting is locked and nowhere in sight... I'd love to get my hand on the freebies somehow, but I just can't see how could I spend that Lieutenant pledge. And last time I was at Captain, considering getting more...
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42nd Cadian Infantry Regiment - 4605 pts.
Sven Bloodhowl's Great Company - 7033 pts.
Elements of Dark Angels 2nd and 3rd Companies - 1155 pts.
The Last Hatred Kabal - 3005 pts.
Eldar Slaves - 630 pts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 18:36:05
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Hmm, I like the 2 freebies so far but not sure about the silhouettes of the locked ones...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 18:52:49
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Myrmidon Officer
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Update 3: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/tgg2-light-and-darkness/posts/1180363
UPDATE #3 – Third Freebie, Sci-Fi Sisters' background, All-Star Boxes, New Images and more...
The deadly ballet of the Death Dancers is a truly amazing thing to witness as these surreal creatures move with an unimaginable grace, perpetually morphing and transforming while new limbs grow or vanish from their body. The sad thing, though, is that their hypnotising dance is most likely the last thing you'll ever see...
The Sisters of Eternal Mercy: the birth of Cathedra
If you followed our previous Kickstarter The Toughest Girls of the Galaxy, you know that the Iron Empire was built by a human colony: they were the first humans who chose to flee a dying Earth and try to find a new place for themselves. Sadly, their expedition was doomed from the start. Radiation, sickness, catastrophic hardships: colonists and crew were decimated. The last few survivors manage to land in extremis in a far-away belt of asteroids, where they stumbled upon the relics of a very ancient Egyptian-like civilisation. And hidden away deep in the Aegyptians' tombs, necromantic knowledge enabled the colonists to raise from the dead their deceased companions.
Armed with this necromantic magic and the many artefacts found in the tombs, the colonists set about rebuilding a new society. But, unsurprisingly, the radiation they endured during their journey had lasting effects: most of them had become sterile, with the colony unable to renew its population. When the Iron Empire's leaders decided to forcibly enlist their few fertile citizens into a breeding programme, many went into hiding rather than become breeding slaves, while other tried their luck once more and, with stolen space transports, left their home again. But the Iron Empire pursued, mercilessly killing many of the very people who could have been their future...
And yet, some managed to get away, among them, several pregnant mothers-to-be, of which seven became leaders of the exodus. When they reached an habitable planet a year, later, they were the one to name this new world Edenia, when it downed on them that this world had been the one the original colonists had been searching for.
Once settled near a large river, the new settlers felt revived. In fact, they were in better health than ever. Some probably believed that their bodies had been longing for a real planet rather than a cold asteroid.
One night, all 7 mother-leaders had the same strange dream: a cryptic message, delivered by a being of light, telling them to go forth and explore. And so quest teams set out to see and map their world. Some went far and away. Others stayed closer to home to better understand the area around Cathedra, their new home settlement. One such team set out looking for the source of the river that fed their home town. This led them to a large cave from whence the river emerged. As they explored it the cave narrowed down to a small passage. Abandoning their vehicle, they walked, then crawled through the diminishing stone corridors. The water flow was running thin, like a small stream seeking to merge with the rest of the river... Hours later, cold and shivering, the questers emerged into a gigantic subterranean cave. And then their hearts nearly stopped: the cave was a field of giant crystals running tens of meters high, with myriads of stalactites and stalagmites appearing to hold the ceiling.
And in the middle of the cave, a group of stalagmites stood on a small hill. The questers, uneasy, approached in silence as the seven stalagmites' shapes increasingly evoked those of 7 pregnant women... And at the feet of the 7 stalagmites, there was a natural basin from which the water came. One of the quester slowly pulled a cup from her bag, and scooped up some of that water to bring back to Cathedra.
It didn't take long for the people of Cathedra to relate their good health to the sacred water. When completely pure and drunk from the source, this water could literally bring back to life what things had been dead. Not in the dark way that the Iron Empire necromancy could. This water meant real life, the holy grail that the Iron Empire couldn't find.
Should this transcendental knowledge and power be shared with the Iron Empire? The seven Mothers and their Council argued on and on. But in the end, they could not forgive or forget the past.
And this would be their curse...
(to be continued)
Here is a first concept of the Fantasy Angels for the Sisters. It will be unveiled on the front page later today... but not yet unlocked...
All-star boxes...
You've probably noticed the mysterious All Star Box icon that sits next to some of the girls...
We came up with the All Star box Concept because, when working on some units, it became obvious to us that each of the girls was actually much more than a simple trooper. Those girls reminded us of The Magnificent Seven or Inglorious Basterds, in which a band of characters are the heroes of the story Since our upcoming game will be very cinematic and influenced by the movie culture, it made a lot of sense to create special units in which each character will be some sort of hero/champion.
But, for various reasons, developing and sculpting a Heroine character costs more than developing a Trooper.
So, we thought we should begin these boxes with 3 characters only. But if the Kickstarter goes big, we will upgrade these boxes with additional characters, up to 5 per box! This means that, basically, you'll get additional free minis in those boxes and end up with a group of heroines for the price of a Troops box, which in our opinion, is a seriously cool deal!
Creating a Raging Heroes Mini – Working on Proportions
In the coming Updates, we will have an on-going series to explain specific steps of our work when we create a miniature.
Today, we talk about something that might seem quite abstract, but which is really a key step for creating lethally elegant female minis.
We spoke on the last Update about how the sculpts will continue to evolve until they are finally produced.
One of the few drawbacks of 3D sculpting is that it is really hard to get a good feel for the bulk and size of a mini until it's actually 3D printed. You can take as many measurements as you like on your screen, use measuring tools in the 3D software, you can compare them side-by-side to previous sculpts you've made, and more... All this will help. But it will never be enough to make the right call.
And if you know a bit about photography and filmmaking, you'll probably have heard this expression: “ the camera always adds 10 pounds” (or 5 kilos, here in France). This means that on a photograph or on film, most of the time, one will look about 10 pounds heavier than in reality. Strangely enough, the same is somewhat true between 3D renders and actual minis. So we also have to take that into account when working on them.
This is why, every time we create a new army, we need to go through some sort of calibration process where we test the look and feel of key minis. To do this more efficiently, we got ourselves a 3D printer that we use for prototyping and testing. We print the same miniature at different sizes and different bulks until we find the right mix.
So, in the end, while some of the renders we've shown might still appear a bit squat, they will end up with similar proportions as our other miniatures once they reach then casting and moulding stage.
Quick Tips
Monsters and base sizes
We've been getting several queries about the size of the various creatures, how they compare to each other, and on what size of base will you be able to mount them. Just so you know, we always try to make such pieces as big as we , however, we know that, depending on the game you play, base size can be really important, so we do keep that in mind. In the next few days, we'll post images and measurements to help you get a better feel for this.
Unlocks
Lots of stretch goals have been unlocked since the beginning of this campaign. We've updated our Front Page to reflect this more clearly, with a little green unlocked padlock and the KS amount at which it was unlocked. Come over and check it out if you've missed this.
Concept Images
In future updates, we will start adding larger sized concept images. Just bear with us while we re-order everything, because there are a lot of them... And meanwhile, here's a new one:
Here is the Sci-fi version of Yscarloth, that you probably haven't seen before...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 19:01:47
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Can't get my head around that mini at all! Nice update though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 19:06:46
Subject: Re:[KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Hallowed Canoness
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And with that in, here's the latest mail call.
Can people "piggyback" on other people's pledges to save on shipping? ie 2x Lieutenant, Lieutenant + Captain, etc?
No.
Can people pledge a buck now and upgrade to a higher tier pledge later in the PM?
They will be able to upgrade while the Paypal option is open (it will be open towards the end of the campaign, and will stay open only for a limited time), but in the PM, they will only be able to add new minis, not jump up to other Pledge Levels.
Is there any kind of reasoning between the stretch goals
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Yes.
They seem completely random.
Not quite.
Wouldn't building up on the basic troopers then going after the stranger and rarer minis make more sense?
It might for some. But that is not necessarily what most people want and globally, the way the campaign is trending, all the basic troopers should end up unlocked.
A big request from several folks is they'd like non-human sized models to be given a scale, such as the Spider Mother, Centaurs, Avatar of Shaah, etc.
Totally agree, we mention in today's Update that we are aware of this request, and will address it in an upcoming Update.
I don't think I was working with my normal staffer there personally.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 20:14:39
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yup that sounds like they answered far too many of your questions.....
anyhoo, more unlocks to drool over (or ignore)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/27 20:46:16
Subject: [KS] Toughest Girls in the Galaxy 2: Darkness and Light - LIVE, FUNDED AND SMASHED MOST STRETCHGOALS
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think I'll be in if the Angels unlock.
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