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My understanding is that most of the shares are held by Pension Funds (safe stock I suppose. Not sure where I read that, but it is certainly out of date.

Scipio Africanus wrote:I imagine many of them are ready to cut our wallets off like fleece... maybe that's why he called them shearholders?

I was going to make a sheep/Australia joke but decided not to

SilverMK2 wrote:

Scipio Africanus wrote:I imagine many of them are ready to cut our wallets off like fleece... maybe that's why he called them shearholders?

I was going to make a sheep/Australia joke but decided not to

I was thinking of making a sheep/NZ joke, but since QUEENSLAND won the State of Origin tonight, Im in too good of a mood!

Redbeard wrote:I'm sorry, I don't see how it holds no water.

It's not "you pay more because you make more", it's "you pay more, because operating expenses in your country are higher."

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can just handwave away legitimate explainations saying they hold no water. Especially not when you link to a post by a user with three whole posts. How do any of us know what he's on about?

This might hold some water if GW retail staff in Oz were so highly paid as to be all near average wage earners.

I wonder if this is true, no, they are retail staff. GET REAL.


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H.B.M.C. wrote:

Tech Guard wrote:98% of these shear holders are war gamers

They are?

I can beleive that, but its an aberration.

Lots of hobbyists may well have a minimum share block in a hobby company, as they wish hobby companies in their related field well. They will hold penny stocks though and their vast number will be no indication of stock relation. Also most other investors will behoove themselves to know what the company is all about, and on the grounds of being in the same room as an intro game will be classified as 'gamers', and as Pension funds and corporate block stock etc will not be counted as part of the other 2% as they are not individual share holders so the statistic is skewed so far as to be meaningless..

notprop wrote:My understanding is that most of the shares are held by Pension Funds (safe stock I suppose. Not sure where I read that, but it is certainly out of date.

Yes thats correct. Someone did some research into on another blog, over on http://theback40k.blogspot.com/2011/05/who-owns-games-workshop.html

75% of the shares are owned by large investment groups. Tom Kirby, the Chairman, owns 6%.

The GW hierarchy haven't been gamers for quite some time now. GW stopped being run and influenced by gamers when it became a publicly traded company.

filbert wrote:The GW hierarchy haven't been gamers for quite some time now. GW stopped being run and influenced by gamers when it became a publicly traded company.

Yes, the Golden years of gaming are past.

I will soon be selling my Eldar as I cannot afford to maintain too many armies with the current situation.

Tech Guard wrote: dont forget shear holders still run GW and 98% of these shear holders are war gamers

I just had to find a pic of a "shear holder"



I wonder if she's a GW shear holder, or if those are PP shears?


Aaaaaaaah just kidding. PP is a private company, so she wouldn't have any of their shears.

SilverMK2 wrote:It is amazing how much more you guys could (and soon will have to) pay for exactly the same stuff.

Its all relative...I feel that way anytime I have to order something from England.

Do feel for te Aussies...they do seem to be the bottom of the hill.

We are presently organising a solution to the present issues. please direct any input to assist here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/371626.page

I just purchased Tau Battleforce from Dark Sphere for around $60-$65 (US). GW's site it sells for $90 (also US). SCREW YOU GW.

That's showing them, King Pariah.

Make them sell another Tau Battleforce to Dark Sphere to restock...

kronk wrote:That's showing them, King Pariah.

Make them sell another Tau Battleforce to Dark Sphere to restock...

I see your point, but in this manner, GW is losing out on the Direct sales that they wish to impose.

AvatarForm wrote:I was thinking of making a sheep/NZ joke, but since QUEENSLAND won the State of Origin tonight, Im in too good of a mood!

State of origin? I love hockey!


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I'm sorry I thread necromanced, I just had to do that.

anyway, this issue is quite irritating. but in the end, we will truly get used to it, and find a way to deal with it.

In america, people pay 1.50$ per gallon and complain... [not that I deny the issue.] comparative to us, we pay upwards on a $1 per litre sometimes say its too high... even though a litre is like a quater of a gallon.

and our dollar isn't worth .25 us cents... I imagine this is them riding off of that, and they do have to be competitive with america... but we could still have lowered prices...

Who wouldn't buy 20 models for 110$ over 10 models for 60?

in the end, it will hurt them; but maybe not enough that it makes a difference.

what we should really do, is remove Wells and make Jervis CEO. [if that's what it's called in the uk.] I mean, who wouldn't want a stereotypical balding british gamer to own GW? It would be perfection.

notprop wrote:My understanding is that most of the shares are held by Pension Funds (safe stock I suppose. Not sure where I read that, but it is certainly out of date.

Correct. Three of the larger ones are in fact are pension funds. Although If memory serves, one Fund sold.....

edit: some of the share holders, institutions and funds

http://investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-major.html?t=GAW®ion=GBR&culture=en-us

The wage argument is really weak. Because prices are being set by GW for it's independent retailers rather than letting those retailers source the product in the most economical way they can and then setting their prices based on the realities of their businesses.

If the economic factors like higher costs of running a business were really what jacks up the price so high than GW would simply supply their Australian independent stores from the UK and let the higher cost of doing business there be the determiner of price.

The last thing I bought before GW shut down the EU sellers from shipping world wide was three boxes of bloodletters.

Cost of order from the UK: £48.60
Cost to buy locally: £72.75
Savings: 33.2%

Not as much of a savings as Australians get because GW's "Screw Canada pricing (TM)" is not as bad as their "Screw Australia pricing (TM)". It used to be though. Prior to the latest UK price increases, I was about to get things from the UK for less than my local store paid on their wholesale account.

On a slightly OT note (or is it back on topic?).
Waagh_Gonads, has your gear from maelstrom turned up yet?
I'm assuming their backlog is pretty heavy at the moment: I ordered a fortnight ago and it's still 'being processed'.

Yeah. The backlog is taking a while. They split my order, and the first part (a single box of Possessed) arrived yesterday. Everything else was out of stock when I ordered it, so it's still on its way.

Another friend of mine got his... but was wrong! He ordered Terminators, and got an Empire Battalion instead!!! He’s sending it back and they’re resending the order.

I guess Maelstrom’s just had one of the busiest months of their lives (Wayland too!).

My stuff is still backorder T-T

Scipio Africanus wrote:
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but in the end, we will truly get used to it, and find a way to deal with it.
...

It's true.

Before the GW price hike and resin switch and trade embargo kicked in I made sure I got what I wanted.

HH001 Big Boris (Mk1)
HV017 Vampire 2 (Posing Vampire)
HV023 Running Ghouls
HSFTRP001 Troopers Pack 1
Ellie Mental
HSF014 The Major
HV048 Were-Turtle
Succubi Deal
DB007 DB Human #1
20 x 30mm Display plastic base
HV001 Minor Fallen One, 30mm Display base

KNEAD Kneadatite Epoxy Modeling Putty (Green Stuff)
RPR 50001 Sascha Dubois, Time Chaser
RPR 50014 Nick Stone, Intergalactic Marine
RPR 50103 Nova Corp Soldier
RPR 50120 Sgt. Bud Murphy, War Hero
2xRPR 50128 Krissy, Modern Witch
RPR 03255 Callie, Female Rogue With Bow
RPR 03274 Grave Wraith And Tombstones
RPR 09701 Blood Triad
RPR 09704 Warm Greens Triad
RPR 09705 Cool Greens Triad
RPR 65007 Lillith, Succubus

Mantic Undead Battalian (110)

Cynuise of Old, Barrow Knight Banner Bearer
Dark Vlad
Dwarf Berserker
Forgotten Warrior
Mantic Journal #1
Mantic Journal #2
Mantic Journal #3
Mantic Undead Skeleton Regiment

3xAvatars - Plastic Dwarf Beserkers Regiment

Ammo Feed Belt Size 1 - 1 mm
Ammo Feed Belt Size 2 - 2 mm
Ammo Feed Belt Size 3 - 3mm
Power Cables Sampler Set
African American - Head Set One-Conversion Parts
Icicles Strips 11 CM (110mm) long strip


Had I remained true to the faith almost none of these purchases would have occurred. I simply said back to GW what they first said to me.

Reciprocity. It's a . Especially month after month after....

Scipio Africanus wrote:In america, people pay 1.50$ per gallon and complain... [not that I deny the issue.] comparative to us, we pay upwards on a $1 per litre sometimes say its too high... even though a litre is like a quater of a gallon.

I had to comment on this. Gas has been nowhere near $1.50 a gallon in the U.S. for years. It is still very near $4.00 a gallon nationwide, in fact I just bought gas today for $3.75 a gallon, which is the lowest that it has been in over a month if not longer. As for a liter being a quarter of a gallon, that is fairly accurate and I'll give you that, as a gallon is about 3.8 liters.

lord_blackfang wrote:

Brunius wrote:Big difference. And that's just on rent. Account for that on electricity, gas, phone, internet....

Double pay, double cost. Makes sense to me. Dunno why you think your standard of living should be twice as high for the same amount of work done.

Then I expect you to donate your 'excess' earnings to the poor Chinese workers on every Made in China item.

Oh and Tech Guard, GW is owned by the following majority shareholders

http://lt.hemscott.com/SSB/tiles/company-data/forecasts-deals/major-shareholders.jsp?epic=GAW&market=LSE

Sure, GW staff are shareholders too from their employee scheme, I feel sorry for those who thought the price would keep going up and up when they bought into it during the LOTR 'bubble'.

The Plastic Surgeon wrote:Then I expect you to donate your 'excess' earnings to the poor Chinese workers on every Made in China item.

No need to. Given that they make 1/100th the wage, those Chinese workers making GW products can buy GW products for a 100th the cost of the UK. Oh... what... they can’t? Oh... And here I was thinking ‘average wage’ was a realistic measure of price in a global economy! How silly of me.

H.B.M.C. wrote: Oh... And here I was thinking ‘average wage’ was a realistic measure of price in a global economy! How silly of me.

Don't worry. We'll place the supply and demand economic sliders on the GW forums to illustrate why we are increasing the prices yet again.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

The Plastic Surgeon wrote:Then I expect you to donate your 'excess' earnings to the poor Chinese workers on every Made in China item.

No need to. Given that they make 1/100th the wage, those Chinese workers making GW products can buy GW products for a 100th the cost of the UK. Oh... what... they can’t? Oh... And here I was thinking ‘average wage’ was a realistic measure of price in a global economy! How silly of me.

I hate it when like minded people back pat each other on forums, so high five!

As for my last order, I did it through Wayland as they are a bit cheaper and had free shipping + direct only models!

BRETONNIAN BATTALION 1
BRETONNIAN BATTLE STANDARD 1
Orc Boar Boyz 2
River Trolls 1
ORC BOAR CHARIOT 1
OGRE KINGDOMS BULLS 2
OGRE KINGDOMS LEADBELCHERS 1
Tomb Kings Tomb Guard 2
Tomb Kings Khemrian Warsphinx/Necrosphinx 1
TOMB KINGS SKELETON WARRIORS REGIMENT 1
TOMB KINGS SKELETON CHARIOTS REGIMENT 1
ORK TRUKK 2
ORK NOBZ 1
EMPIRE FLAGELLANT WARBAND 1
GORBAD IRONCLAW
BLACK ORC REGIMENT 1
Gui le Gros - Direct Only 1
Stone Troll with Axe & Rock - Direct Only 1
Beastman Tuskgor Chariot 1
Beastmen Minotaurs 2
Stone Troll with Bone Club - Direct Only 1

Copied and pasted from my order confirmation.

Irony Alert:

My friend's order to GWUK, made after the embargo came into effect, arrived before any of the orders I made to Wayland and Maelstrom.

I know I keep saying this, but GW are Internet freeloaders. LOL!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Irony Alert:

My friend's order to GWUK, made after the embargo came into effect, arrived before any of the orders I made to Wayland and Maelstrom.

I know I keep saying this, but GW are Internet freeloaders. LOL!

Roughly how much did he save after shipping?

AvatarForm wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Irony Alert:

My friend's order to GWUK, made after the embargo came into effect, arrived before any of the orders I made to Wayland and Maelstrom.

I know I keep saying this, but GW are Internet freeloaders. LOL!

Roughly how much did he save after shipping?

For Canadians , we save like 40% off and free shipping.

Which might jump to 52% off , if the customs missed the tax xD

LunaHound wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Irony Alert:

My friend's order to GWUK, made after the embargo came into effect, arrived before any of the orders I made to Wayland and Maelstrom.

I know I keep saying this, but GW are Internet freeloaders. LOL!

Roughly how much did he save after shipping?

For Canadians , we save like 40% off and free shipping.

Which might jump to 52% off , if the customs missed the tax xD

If you ordered through our GW forums, you'd be saving about negative 143% off.

WarOne wrote:If you ordered through our GW forums, you'd be saving about negative 143% off.

Que?