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Lukus83 wrote:Has anyone noticed that with all the stuff now up on the GW site...warriors and broodlords are now troops. It seems that we will be getting an inevitable nerf to the broodlord since he will just be an upgrade character (on the plus side he won't be an IC).

Oh and thanks for the close ups farmer.


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Oh and zoanthropes have been moved to elite...interesting.

No problem.

I don't like GW,but i have to give them credit for the nice rules and models,will make the game more interesting although the prices are fething stupid.

Also who the feth is going to use tyrant guards now?.

Yeah me too, except for that Mawloc, it just dosen't work for me.

The Mawloc version of the Trygon isn't bad. It's better than the tentacley Vemon thing.

Pyrovore looks awesome,and doesn't have that slowed bulky fat feth look the biovore has.

Tyrant guards > Hive guard
Carnifex > Trygon/mawloc
Zoanthropes > Toxithropes
Biovore > Pyrovore

Anyone else seeing stuff getting outclassed?.

Isn't that the point of new models?

JohnHwangDD wrote:Isn't that the point of new models?

Well yes,i just hope it isn't a case of "oh your good,but this is better" kind of list.

I'm hoping that nothing will be outclassed per se, just given a different role.

Trygons will now be THE heavy support choice, while fexes will be weaker, but cheaper in points and you will be able to field them en masse. Etc etc...

I would be shocked if the new Nid book doesn't require Special Characters and pimp awesome new (or previously crappy) minis.

Lukus83 wrote:I'm hoping that nothing will be outclassed per se, just given a different role.

Trygons will now be THE heavy support choice, while fexes will be weaker, but cheaper in points and you will be able to field them en masse. Etc etc...

Indeed,can't wait to see 3 trygons guant ravener spam armys :3

Farmer wrote:

Lukus83 wrote:I'm hoping that nothing will be outclassed per se, just given a different role.

Trygons will now be THE heavy support choice, while fexes will be weaker, but cheaper in points and you will be able to field them en masse. Etc etc...

Indeed,can't wait to see 3 trygons guant ravener spam armys :3

I can't wait to have one hahaha

Please don't direct-link to GW's site. Host it on your photobucket or dakka gallery.

Farmer wrote:

Lukus83 wrote:Has anyone noticed that with all the stuff now up on the GW site...warriors and broodlords are now troops. It seems that we will be getting an inevitable nerf to the broodlord since he will just be an upgrade character (on the plus side he won't be an IC).

Oh and thanks for the close ups farmer.


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Oh and zoanthropes have been moved to elite...interesting.

Also who the feth is going to use tyrant guards now?.

Who knows, since the rules haven't been released. But an indirect-firing, supposedly Str 8, 2 shot weapon fired with "unerring accuracy" (quote from GW) makes the Guards pretty inticing.


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Lukus83 wrote:1...I'm gonna be fielding 3 of those bad boys.

If you can. Everyone's assuming it's not going to be 0-1.

I have a stack of Stealers, a few Hybrids, and a Broodlord, from 1st & 3rd edition Space Hulk. So I shall be awaiting the codex quite eagerly, to see if I can put together a cheap, Stealer-heavy army.

I may just see about making a Hybrid Heavy Weapon Team or two squeezed onto a 40mm or 60mm base (Counts As Hive Guard or Pyrovore, depending on which of the latter looks like it might be effective). Those Hive Guard models are gorgeous though... I may need to buy some anyway.

I really hope that Zoanthropes get a necessary powering up in this book. The biological field artillery is currently a big vulnerable dork who is more dangerous lowering ld scores with psychic scream than actually blasting things.

Hive Tyrants with crushing claws ? .

All I see is the gorgeousness of the Official (tm) GW Realm of Battle Board (r).

Still, it boggles the mind that GW dares release a picture of Nids in a non-crap paint scheme.

Okay, I am sorry but three squads of carnifexes is going to be scary.

multi-assault, wound allocation, they are cheaper now? (yes, i realize they are also nerfed, but how far?). So, they will overcome the problems leman russ squads have by being cheaper (i.e. less than 100 points each) and everyone has to shoot the same target? whoopty doo, they are cheap as dirt.... okay, i dont want to rant because this is all hypothetical.

Also, $50 for a trygon? they really must have made it suck and/or really cheap points, i dont know.

Heavy support has always been the focus to my armies since armageddon times, so i might be a bit biased. Maybe playing a couple games against the local nidzillas after the book comes out will change my mind.

Either way, I do not think trygon is going to be worth it compared to 3 carnifexes.

Also, interested in seeing how the HQ slots are going to affect the organization (if at all) of the army or how it works all together.

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9 carnifexes is not going to be fun, I just can't shake that feeling, man. Someone please prove me wrong

So, is that thing supposed to be a tyranid version of a megatank, or stoma?

Seems kinda missing its bottom part. It needs that squid tentical mass like that thing from Cloverfield, then it can drom nids all over the table. like rain of squggies, or drop troop gaunts, or something.

Could use a good set of wings like a dragon, or something, too.

Nenya97 wrote:9 carnifexes is not going to be fun, I just can't shake that feeling, man. Someone please prove me wrong

Yes, because no army has access to long-range, high strength and AP weaponry.

EDIT: Even your own signature that you probably read once and CP'd it without thinking says it best.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Kwosge wrote:In regards to the new codex we all know that they were pushed back because GW made about 1000 to many errors in it.

GW doesn't do reprints because of product quality issues.

I still say GW's bean counters pushed the Nid release to bump their 2010 revenue instead of their 2009 revenue.

That said, I very much like that Trygon model.

GW forgot to print the Tyranid Universal Special Rules in the original printing of Codex: Tyranid. The army was, literally, un-playable.

bhsman wrote:Yes, because no army has access to long-range, high strength and AP weaponry.

I Have a Company with 21 Plasma Weapons that should do good.

Yeah, that should do the trick.

Looks Exiteing!

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bhsman wrote:Yes, because no army has access to long-range, high strength and AP weaponry.

I Have a Company with 21 Plasma Weapons that should do good.

That, or missile launchers, lascannons, rail guns...

Not to say that these will always stop a Carnifex or squad of them short, but it's not a game-breaker.

Those are just plain awesome! i'm definitely gonna love my tyranid army and my friends are gonna hate it

I'm a bit disappointed in the pyrovore sculpt, but only because the head seems uncreative for such an interesting concept. It's just a big gaunt head with a sac on it. With all the crest patterns you'd think they'd come up with something new. It's still a nice model, but I may do some sculpy work on the head.

I disagree. It's a huge improvement on the biovore and to me that's all that matters. At least the head is tyranid-like, whereas the biovore looks like a gorilla with some orkiness thrown in.

Now to get back to rules wishlisting...

Farmer wrote:

Hive Tyrants with crushing claws ? .

What is that im looking at?

A beautifully painted sample army. Don't read too much into the heirodule as it's not in the codex.

There's a hive tyrant with crushing claws (the one on the right)...currenty that's not legal.

Lukus83 wrote:There's a hive tyrant with crushing claws (the one on the right)...currenty that's not legal.

Or it could be a style choice made by the Staffer whose army it is and could bear absolutely no hidden meaning.