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I've stopped taking advice for playing orks from marine players at some point during 5th.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
I've stopped taking advice for playing orks from marine players at some point during 5th.


Personally, I love it when they enter an orkz thread, or the ork tactics thread and tell us that our factions is OP and all of our things are OP and Burna Boyz need a nerf, and ask "Why aren't you playing a stompa since they are so OP?"


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Yeah a 5" moving character like that is sooooooo stupid?

Yes!

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Yeah a 5" moving character like that is sooooooo stupid?

Yes!

Well pray tell how it's actually stupid instead of just complaining it is.

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 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Only thing stupid about it is anyone complaining about it. you're basicly spending warlord traits to make a tank out of your gunlines anti-charge deterrant.

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Ork players putting the waaaaahhhh in waaagh since 2005, it seems csm players have been replaced in the role of cluttering every thread with how bad there army is.

Although I have to agree the salamanders look a little lacklustre if those leaks labelled click bait are real.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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rules for Captain Tor Garadon
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Wow hes kinda bad lol

   
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I wouldn’t say “bad” at the rumoured 140pts, but, more… Difficult to use.

Essentially, this guy just be there to give your Cent Devs or Repulors +1 BS and re-roll 1’s. The Grav-Gun (which might be a link to Hellfuries maybe?) is interesting, as is the x3 Thunderhammer, but, at 5” move, he’s going to be nothing more than a charge deterrent and never really use them until late game.
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Well pray tell how it's actually stupid instead of just complaining it is.

It's a normal infantry character with a S and T that are fitting for a monstrous creature, even before wargear bonus.

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Is that the only Fists leak? No idea about other rules?

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 Crimson wrote:
Is that the only Fists leak? No idea about other rules?
Just Tor (I called this a LONG time ago) and the points. Pedro Kantor somehow costs more than Shrike. Because of course he does

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kinda weird that no one seems to be posting these (or salamander) leaks to GW's facebook or instagram.
   
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Judging from the usual washed-up photos that bring any $50 phone to shame, it's probably GW leaking them anyways.

The Spikey Bits noted something relatively interesting - BT Characters are missing from the Sons of Dorn book, so the BT vs Orks box might be true after all.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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Well, this makes three Finecast Characters that had someone without a model released instead. Tor Garadon has been a part of the Imperial Fists fluff for three editions now, though. I am just saddened that the Crimson Fists won't have a Primaris Special Character. And that their one character is ridiculously costed compared to the other Chapter Masters.

But, no BT characters means meat it back on the menu for this rumor.

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Sillymanders and Imperial Glove Puppet reveals later, apparently.

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New Characters will be revealed today.
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Very pleased to see no BT characters, they'll get their own codex!

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Wait a minute, the Imperial Fists upgrade sprue includes a Signum Array. GW, Give me rules for it as a unique upgrade!

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I find these new primaris special characters annoying. They're tied to a specific chapter and thus cannot be used with successors and as generic primaris characters have gak for options you cannot use the models as similarly equipped generics.

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But that’s no different to any other character?

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Is it just me or does the Imperial Fist look a little, idk out of it?

Like Gary Busey the Space Marine
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But that’s no different to any other character?
Yes it is. Generic minimarine characters have a ton of gear options, so you usually can equip one same way than a special character model. With primaris you cannot.

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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Is it just me or does the Imperial Fist look a little, idk out of it?

Like Gary Busey the Space Marine

That is awesome and now I can not unsee it. Captain Busey for the win!
   
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 Crimson wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But that’s no different to any other character?
Yes it is. Generic minimarine characters have a ton of gear options, so you usually can equip one same way than a special character model. With primaris you cannot.


All the feedback I've heard is that a properly equipped Primaris Captain hits like a truck with the new codex, so I'm not sure where the fire is.

If you want a special snowflake character play a chapter with a special character.


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 ikeulhu wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Is it just me or does the Imperial Fist look a little, idk out of it?

Like Gary Busey the Space Marine

That is awesome and now I can not unsee it. Captain Busey for the win!


If this is the artist I think it is he's openly admitted to using celebrities as "templates" for faces. He did an awesome primarch series and the Lion for example was definitely modeled off of Clint Eastwood.

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Agreed. Don’t people call Imperial Fists Men of Stone? Maybe the artist misunderstood.

Anyway the rules are floating around the inter web and one thing that strikes me is: this guy is basically the same as Lysander. He’s a 5” move captain who is very tough and wields a high-strength, Damage 3 melee weapon. Lysander hits on a 2+ but has one less attack. He can teleport but he has no signum or grav gun.

This is fine I guess but if you have two special characters you sort of want them to do different things.

More importantly though, it looks like this means Vulkan, Lysander and (most importantly for me) Pedro are not getting new models or rules. Their costs are the same as in the downloadable pdf so I expect their rules are the same too.
   
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 Nah Man Pichu wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But that’s no different to any other character?
Yes it is. Generic minimarine characters have a ton of gear options, so you usually can equip one same way than a special character model. With primaris you cannot.


All the feedback I've heard is that a properly equipped Primaris Captain hits like a truck with the new codex, so I'm not sure where the fire is.

If you want a special snowflake character play a chapter with a special character.


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 ikeulhu wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Is it just me or does the Imperial Fist look a little, idk out of it?

Like Gary Busey the Space Marine

That is awesome and now I can not unsee it. Captain Busey for the win!


If this is the artist I think it is he's openly admitted to using celebrities as "templates" for faces. He did an awesome primarch series and the Lion for example was definitely modeled off of Clint Eastwood.


And mixed Busey and Lenno, to make Tor Garadon, Captain of the Imperial Fists and Insane Host of the Imperium's Favorite Late Night Talk Show.

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Mandragola wrote:
Agreed. Don’t people call Imperial Fists Men of Stone? Maybe the artist misunderstood.

Anyway the rules are floating around the inter web and one thing that strikes me is: this guy is basically the same as Lysander. He’s a 5” move captain who is very tough and wields a high-strength, Damage 3 melee weapon. Lysander hits on a 2+ but has one less attack. He can teleport but he has no signum or grav gun.

This is fine I guess but if you have two special characters you sort of want them to do different things.

More importantly though, it looks like this means Vulkan, Lysander and (most importantly for me) Pedro are not getting new models or rules. Their costs are the same as in the downloadable pdf so I expect their rules are the same too.


Vulkan He'stan didnt get primaris'd, that's Adrax Agatone.
   
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Racerguy180 wrote:
Mandragola wrote:
Agreed. Don’t people call Imperial Fists Men of Stone? Maybe the artist misunderstood.

Anyway the rules are floating around the inter web and one thing that strikes me is: this guy is basically the same as Lysander. He’s a 5” move captain who is very tough and wields a high-strength, Damage 3 melee weapon. Lysander hits on a 2+ but has one less attack. He can teleport but he has no signum or grav gun.

This is fine I guess but if you have two special characters you sort of want them to do different things.

More importantly though, it looks like this means Vulkan, Lysander and (most importantly for me) Pedro are not getting new models or rules. Their costs are the same as in the downloadable pdf so I expect their rules are the same too.


Vulkan He'stan didnt get primaris'd, that's Adrax Agatone.


Yeah, hence him not getting a new model or rules.
   
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Wow, that Imperial Fist looks really stupid with the gun just slapped on his backpack. Looks like my earliest attempts to do conversions.
   
 
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