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Seemingly fresh from the forge news.

Sorry it's Gizmodo, but beggars canyon be choosers!

No word on whether this is Rian's trilogy, GoT show runner trilogy, or something else altogether. But there's a three year break between IX and the next, that much we do know.


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The Walt Disney Studios wrote: has unveiled its upcoming slate following the recent acquisition of the Fox film studios, including changes to previously dated films and a number of major additions.

After kicking off with the record-setting success of Marvel Studios’ Avengers: Endgame, The Walt Disney Studios’ 2019 summer slate includes Disney’s Aladdin on May 24, Fox’s Dark Phoenix on June 7, Pixar’s Toy Story 4 on June 21, Fox’s Stuber on July 12, and Disney’s The Lion King on July 19. Fox 2000’s The Art of Racing in the Rain moves up to Aug. 9, and Fox Searchlight’s Ready or Not will release on Aug. 23, while three films move to later dates: Ad Astra (9/20/19), The New Mutants (4/3/20), and Artemis Fowl (5/29/20).

The Studios’ 2019 slate rounds out with Fox’s The Woman in the Window on Oct. 4 and Ford V. Ferrari on Nov. 15, Disney’s Maleficent: Mistress of Evil on Oct. 18 and Disney Animation’s Frozen 2 on Nov. 22, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker on Dec. 20, and Blue Sky Studios’ Spies in Disguise, moving from September to Christmas. Among early 2020 titles are Fox’s Underwater on Jan. 10, a new Kingsman movie on Feb. 14, and Call of the Wild on Feb. 21, followed by Pixar’s Onward on March 6 and Disney’s Mulan on March 27.

The updated calendar also sets release dates for major franchises Avatar and Star Wars. With Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker bringing the original Skywalker Saga to its conclusion, three new as-yet-untitled Star Wars films will release on the pre-Christmas weekend every other year beginning in 2022. Four forthcoming Avatar films, expanding the vibrant world of Pandora, will release on the pre-Christmas weekend every other year beginning in 2021. In the holiday corridor for 2020, Fox’s West Side Story adaptation, directed by Steven Spielberg, will debut Dec. 18 in the pre-Christmas slot, with Disney’s Cruella opening Wednesday, Dec. 23, for the long holiday weekend.

“We’re excited to put in place a robust and diverse slate that lays the foundation of our long-term strategy, bringing together a breadth of films from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Fox, Fox Searchlight, and Blue Sky Studios to create an extraordinary collection of cinematic experiences for audiences around the world,” said Cathleen Taff, President, Theatrical Distribution, Franchise Management, and Business & Audience Insights, The Walt Disney Studios. “With a strong summer already in place, we are eager to carry that momentum forward over the coming years thanks to a creative wellspring of bold and imaginative stories coming from our world-class studios – including several new chapters of two revered franchises, Avatar and Star Wars.”


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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I'll reserve judgement until we find out exactly which project these three will be, if indeed they are a single project.

Right now it really does seem like they're doubling down on the "franchise fatigue" angle, and as such I have zero confidence they've learned any actual lessons from recent events.

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After so long and suddenly four Avatar movies coming out every other year?

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
After so long and suddenly four Avatar movies coming out every other year?


I didn't even really like the first one...

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You mean 'Fern Gully....In Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace'?

Visually stunning, but story was somewhat lacking. I mean, it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, just a bit overrated. Will totally watch it if it's on, but am not inclined to put it on to watch.

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I personally like Fern Gully better!

FG had Robin Williams. Avatar had real Cable. RW wins.

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Yea, three more Star Wars movies I have no intention of wasting valuable dollars on.

Ditto for Avatar. Unless they nuke the alien planet in the first scene, its just Ferngully II - The Stupiding.


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You mean 'Fern Gully....In Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace'?

Visually stunning, but story was somewhat lacking. I mean, it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, just a bit overrated. Will totally watch it if it's on, but am not inclined to put it on to watch.


No it wasn't just bad. It was horrible. I literally fell asleep.

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The next three Star Wars films will premiere on the pre-Christmas weekends of 2022, 2024, and 2026, respectively (following the conclusion of the Skywalker saga in this year's Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker). Disney's press release doesn't specify whether this new trilogy is the one being developed by The Last Jedi's Rian Johnson, the one being developed by Game of Thrones' David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, or something else altogether. The staggered same-date release does suggest that the titles will be connected. (Lucasfilm boss Kathleen Kennedy recently suggested as much, telling Entertainment Weekly that “as [Benioff and Weiss] finish Game of Thrones, they’re going to segue into Star Wars. ... They’re working very closely with Rian.”)


It does suggest that the next SW trilogy is co-developed by Johnson and GoT writers.

This actually does somewhat make sense in light of the current Disney trilogy, in that people have suggested it is unbelievble that the Resistance could rise to defeat First Order in Ep. IX. But perhaps they don't? Maybe they only get some temporary respite and actual defeat of the FO takes place in the fourth trilogy. Would be more convenient, I suppose, rather than come up with all new baddies 3 years later.

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Meh, if Johnson is involved, then just consider it dead at 3 trilogies. The fourth will be hot garbage.

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Meh, if Johnson is involved, then just consider it dead at 3 trilogies. The fourth will be hot garbage.


On a plus side, JJ Abrams seems to be out. Gotta take bad with the good.

I don't have high expectations from the GoT team, though. In my opinion, GoT is clumsily written whenever they venture outside what GRRM has laid down. I am not convinced they are any good when training wheels which was Martin comes out.

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looking much like my cinema trips for new flims for the year is stopping with tomorrows trip to Endgame then (although my love of really bad films might drag me to Dark Phoneix to determine if Ginger Stark is the worst actor ever )

as for new Wars I've long had to concede they are not for me anymore,

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Bring it on, as a life time fan I absolutely love everythingStar wars. Good and bad, except Jar Jar Binks. He should burn slowly in the center of the death star reactor.
   
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What are they talking about? Original saga ended after 2 trilogies.
Ok, and a couple of animated series and a spin-off movie (maybe two; haven't seen Solo, so don't know if it's good).
   
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What are they talking about? Original saga ended after 2 trilogies.
Ok, and a couple of animated series and a spin-off movie (maybe two; haven't seen Solo, so don't know if it's good).


Yeah Solo’s good , not as good as rogue one mind but still a good film.
   
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Even though they won't acknowledge it there's zero chance Rian Johnson is actually going to get his planned trilogy, so that's a huge plus.

 
   
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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Meh, if Johnson is involved, then just consider it dead at 3 trilogies. The fourth will be hot garbage.


The prequel and sequel trilogies are already hot garbage, so at least the new movies will have company.

At this point they could make better Star Wars movies by buying Krull or Willow and digitally inserting lightsabers.

   
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Well, this is how I feel about this development...

   
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Solo is okay. It’s overloaded with unnecessary attempts to explain literally everything about Han in one movie and gets mired in superficial details but it has its moments. I rank it just ahead of the prequels.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
Solo is okay. It’s overloaded with unnecessary attempts to explain literally everything about Han in one movie and gets mired in superficial details but it has its moments. I rank it just ahead of the prequels.


Solo was so boring that I couldn't get through it. Such a beloved character...and it was dismal. Rogue One was great, so they proved they CAN make a good side-movie. Solo...boring. Very, very boring.

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
looking much like my cinema trips for new flims for the year is stopping with tomorrows trip to Endgame then (although my love of really bad films might drag me to Dark Phoneix to determine if Ginger Stark is the worst actor ever )

as for new Wars I've long had to concede they are not for me anymore,


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 Elbows wrote:
Even though they won't acknowledge it there's zero chance Rian Johnson is actually going to get his planned trilogy, so that's a huge plus.


Sure, instead you'll get the guys currently steering GoT into a ditch.

Honestly, they'll probably keep the general masses of SW fans happy. I expect lots of cool spectacle and lightsaber fights, and nothing really new or challenging.

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 LunarSol wrote:
Solo is okay. It’s overloaded with unnecessary attempts to explain literally everything about Han in one movie and gets mired in superficial details but it has its moments. I rank it just ahead of the prequels.


True although I still wonder why the left out any plot regarding han being dumped from flight training. Wasn’t he in the same training class as Soontir fel if i remember rightly.

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I'm... deeply confused by this Avatar news.

James Cameron movies always end up being these movie making touchstones and cultural landmarks, which justify the fact that he tends to take ten years to make them. Avatar is this weird exception where it did one but not the other - the amount of people who repeat the 'nuke the site from orbit' line from Aliens in response to Avatar illustrates it well.

I really don't know how you generate enthusiasm for Avatar. It feels like the only person who's really excited for Avatar is Cameron himself.

As for the Star Wars movies I'm of two minds: Disney has been talking about this next trilogy being on the way for a good while now, the question remains if it's the Johnson trilogy or the GoT guys' trilogy. Or possibly both? I dunno.

On the one hand: Both parties know how to make a very pretty show with compellingly composited scenes and how to direct actors to say ridiculous things with passion and emotion.

On the other hand: Setting aside the suplurfluous complaints of an unpleasable fanbase both GoT and TLJ have noticeable problems with stressing the patience of the viewer in order to set up the logistics required for their beautiful visual scenes. Characters running off on side quests that go horribly wrong so that the villain can succeed without actually earning it themselves, etc.

So... I worry that they share common weaknesses, and that's going to be a problem because a lot of people see their strengths: the visually interesting shots, the sheer spectacle of the visuals are going to be ignored because people expect them as a given because it's Star Wars (whether or not that's a fair expectation in light of the prequels is a different question.)

Here's hoping it turns out good!

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James Cameron made some great films...the last of which was probably in the early 90's. He's just a ghost of his previous talented self. He's gone a bit whacko and is living in a kind of fantasy world of his own...so just...whatever.

 
   
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There was a time this would have made me absolutely giddy, and the idea of so many star wars movies would have been music to my ears.

Unfortunately after ep 7 & 8, I just really no longer care about the story, it doesn't feel like the same thing I fell in love with as a wee lad, and the excitement is no longer there and the commercialism isn't even masked in the slightest anymore within the films themselves. Spoilers dont even bother me at this point. Just as important, between the MCU and SW franchises, they're starting to feel like a firehose of content, and that gets tiring.

The glut of Avatar stuff is mind boggling, I didn't think there was so much demand

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There’s an interesting comment I read elsewhere about Avatar where Disney is concerned.

Second and third are pretty much in the can, and all on Fox’s dollar. So to their new owner, there’s relatively little cash risk, even if they utterly bomb.

Which means they’ve two attempts to gauge interest, and tweaks can be made from there - one presumes that includes cancelling four and five.


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 LunarSol wrote:
Somebody had to care about Avatar. It didn’t sell nearly $3 billion in tickets because no one cared.


true but it was largely a visual cinema experience and I still blame it for nearly a decade of really shirt 3d needlessly hammered onto everything, Avatars 3d was good because jimbo spent ages figuring it out what with the high contrast(?) and colour being key everyone else bar maybe Toy Story and Tron just didnt get it at all right and led to the pure comedy 'look at the 3 deeee' shot library

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