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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 19:19:00
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/2: Chappy WIP 5 & assault marine build!)
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Using Inks and Washes
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Grrr. Page rolover.
Anyway I like the chaplain and the assault marine. But I have to wonder, will you be doing anything to break up the black?
Keep it up.
Prototype_x
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 19:30:49
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/2: Chappy WIP 5 & assault marine build!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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The chappy is looking very nice Git's, love the warmth of the yellow on the shoulder pad. Looking forward to seeing him spread his wings.
edit: argh lost in the dark side of Gits blog, otherwise known as the dreaded page rollover. Well at least I have prototype_X to keep me company
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 22:08:47
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/2: Chappy WIP 5 & assault marine build!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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All done. Brother Taki, Chaplain of the Mantis Warriors.
Decided to do the edge highlights in green for the most part, and leave the inside of the wings in shades of grey. The wings, as with the axe are in "powered down" mode, thus are not at the full brightness of normal powered operation, as it's clear Taki is taking a moment to assess the situation and issue orders. The intense lights of my light box make the edge highlights look *really* green. IRL the effect is more subtle. It does turn up the volume of the green ever so slightly though, which is an effect I like quite a bit.
I'll be honest, wish I was keeping this one.  Hope it meets with approval, especially from Gathering Storm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 22:16:46
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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nice Gits very nice. although i find the wings a little big for the fella. how does it compare to normal marines?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 22:23:57
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Not sure I know what you mean.... he's a normal sized marine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 23:27:14
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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the wings just the wings. they look big
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the banner is click able. it takes you to a magical country. if you don't believe me click and see for your self
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 23:27:17
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Wow! That marine looks fantastic Gits! The simple grayscale effect on the wings is ace! And the green edging to the armour really makes the model pop! Stellar work as always, the piece will be used as a study on how to improve my own painting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 23:30:12
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Glad you like him GS... been a long time waiting, I know. I'll get him out to you as soon as I can find your addy... *shuffles papers*... I'll make sure I pack him really well so he arrives in a single piece.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/03 23:44:48
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Wow Gits. I really wish I could paint even remotely near your level. Beautiful work.
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:RIP: E.A.R.
:RIP: N.A.B.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/04 00:46:22
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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I said it in the GMS thread and I'll say it here too - very nice work! I do believe you are getting better *and* faster (or at least it seems that way to me!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/04 02:17:25
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thanks guys. I'm pretty happy with it. Trying out something new on the assault marine. Nothing big, just a different way to do the lining... we'll see how it works.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
OK, this is it for the night... green is basically done with some little touch-ups later on. Starting on the other colors now. Should make some good progress tomorrow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/04 18:13:00
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished, assault marine WIP 2!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Those greens are looking really good and that chappy turned out awesome. I really like that you painted his bolt pistol in the bone colors. Adds some fun pop to that side of the mini which balances well opposite the power axe. Great stuff, Gits!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/04 18:19:42
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished, assault marine WIP 2!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well, the axe almost got a bone blade for it's part... but I decided a little more natural look would be better. Part of the haft is bone colored though in order to balance out the figure. We'll see how things go today, I could get close to finishing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/04 20:16:16
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished, assault marine WIP 2!)
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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I'm a big fan of twin chainswords! I have a vet serg in my command squad with two. Good work as always Gits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/04 20:35:18
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished, assault marine WIP 2!)
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Swamp Troll
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I do like the final look of the Chappy, I think his wings give off a sort of powerful image!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 04:59:31
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/3: Chaplain finished, assault marine WIP 2!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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@Reaper: Thanks Reaper... and I agree whole-heartedly on the two-sword. Very fun/impressive look. @Cutthroatcure: Thank you! I think they look alright. The certainly give the figure some presence. Well, the assault marine is essentially done. However, I don't like the plainness of his right shoulder pad as that side of the figure lacks focal interest. I have a couple of ideas, but I think I'm going to sleep on in and finish up tomorrow night. Considering the spectacular figure Knightley is sending me it just seems a bit too plain... but I can't complain about the paint job overall... just not quite special enough yet. I think I'm going to steal something from a figure of Yggsdrasil's that is one of my favorites... a plague marine believe it or not. (No, there will be no oozing sores involved).
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/03/05 05:00:03
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 05:17:35
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Hellish Haemonculus
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If you don't mind me asking, what did you use to do the lettering on his shoulderpad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 05:51:47
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Strategizing Grey Knight Chapter Master
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Looking awesome Gits, can't wait to see what you do to make him special
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IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil... The Cleanest Painting blog ever!
Gitsplitta wrote:I am but a pretender... you are... the father of all squiggles. . |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 08:40:20
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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Now that you draw attention to it, I'm starting to wonder whether the shoulder pad would even rotate that far - it looks a bit like the arm has been put on upside down! Maybe next time try keeping the top of the shoulder pad near the top of the shoulder and "see where it goes" - assuming you didn't try that anyway... Don't know... excellent paint job and pose otherwise!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 12:21:47
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jimsolo wrote:If you don't mind me asking, what did you use to do the lettering on his shoulderpad?
Micron pen. Knightley wrote:Looking awesome Gits, can't wait to see what you do to make him special 
Me neither! Arakasi wrote:Now that you draw attention to it, I'm starting to wonder whether the shoulder pad would even rotate that far - it looks a bit like the arm has been put on upside down! Maybe next time try keeping the top of the shoulder pad near the top of the shoulder and "see where it goes" - assuming you didn't try that anyway... Don't know... excellent paint job and pose otherwise!
Actually, it will. Remember the figure is bending forward significantly so the rotation of the shoulder is within the norm. It's a good point Arakasi, but I try to make sure a body can physically move in the way I depict before I do it. Think I'll spend some time today browsing the gallery looking for "second opinions" before I make my final decision on what to do with the pad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 13:29:37
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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I wasn't suggesting the "arm" couldn't rotate that far - that's fine - just whether the pad would follow it to that extent. I'd imagine it would be still more upright, either flared out more (similar to the other side, but more so...) or maybe rotate to face the front more - not sure if I am explaining that well or not...
Best example I can find on short notice of the former...
Hmmm.. GW just don't make that pose! Here's one with the arm back, exposing the underside of the shoulder pad as it moves...
Even though I can't find a better pic at short notice, you will be hard pressed to find one where the shoulder pad looks upside down.... I'll continue to look
Closest on a quick Google-fail - this one angles in forward as per my second suggestion - but still isn't as extreme as yours...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 14:28:16
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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LOL! All those are blocked from work. But I get your point, the shoulder pad wouldn't necessarily stay centered on the arm when the arm rotated back that far, the arm would float a bit within the context of the pad. You may well be right... though I'd never limit what I model based on what GW has modeled previously... neither would you eh? I don't think you could get the arm back that far without tipping the pad upside-down, even if you rotated the arm within the shoulder to it's maximum extent. And as someone who has spent many years fighting in armor... you don't want your armor to be that restrictive or it'll seriously interfere with your ability to fight. Something an assault marine would never put up with. We know the shoulder pads can rotate up and forward to a nearly vertical position and flare out quite a bit (based on GW models). Given that precedent, I don't think there's any reason to believe a pad couldn't rotate backwards through the full range of motion as well. That being said, shifting the arm within the pad would result in the bad being more forward than down in relation to the plane of the marine's body, which might look more natural. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can do that at this point without seriously damaging the figure... something I don't want to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 15:59:52
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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Limit, no
Not suggesting SM armour is restrictive  I think it's that exact precedent that makes me think it would follow that precedent *instead* of rotating backwards.
I didn't notice it the first time, so as I said, it's not seriously detracting from your most excellent work. I definitely would not suggest you do anything that might jeopardise the current figure either! Just something to note for next time - which may or may not pan out in any case...
As you were
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 16:17:46
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nope... your comments are very cogent and very much appreciated my friend. No worries there. I'll take a look at those links when I get home to see if there's a "chapter approved" method of modeling something like this, might give me other ideas that will work even better! In the nonce... I'll work within the physical constraints of the existing figure. One problem I think I bring upon my self is that the vast majority of marines I do use the older armor styles where there is no edging on the pad, thus I'm not used to using the edging as a way of defining the figure. Nor am I used to seeing a blank shoulder pad because the pad that doesn't have the chapter badge has always got campaign studs on it. So I'm not sure if there's really a problem or if it's more my perception of a problem because of all the empty space and uniformity of color. You'll remember that when I do my "modern" Mantis Warriors I put a mon on the opposite shoulder pad... this is in large part, to address the same issue. That being said... I wanted to make something spiffy for Knightley, and this isn't quite there yet. OH snap! No wonder he looks like he's missing something! I forgot to add the ornamental spikey bits on his arms and legs! OK, that's easy enough to fix. While that won't address the shoulder issue, it will make him look more like a mantis warrior. Does anyone have any old chainswords they want to get rid of?? I'm running out of blades. Don't care on condition, don't care on style... I just needs swords I can cut the teeth off of. Can pay $ (paypal) or maybe trade something marine, ork or very old eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 16:19:50
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Old Sourpuss
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What if you pulled like the Venerable dread thing and put script work on the shoulder pad like they put on the dreads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 21:39:11
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Gitsplitta wrote:Does anyone have any old chainswords they want to get rid of?? I'm running out of blades. Don't care on condition, don't care on style... I just needs swords I can cut the teeth off of. Can pay $ (paypal) or maybe trade something marine, ork or very old eldar.
I'll send you some. I have some from specific chapters that I won't use.
SL
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/05 21:45:24
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/4:assault marine done... almost!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Alfndrate wrote:What if you pulled like the Venerable dread thing and put script work on the shoulder pad like they put on the dreads.
You are insightful my friend, this is what I had in mind... Solar_lion wrote:I'll send you some. I have some from specific chapters that I won't use. SL
Thanks brother, I appreciate it. Automatically Appended Next Post:
OK, all done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/06 17:13:52
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/5:assault marine finished!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Woah. New shoulder pad added so much to this mini!! That looks great, Gits. Oh, if only Yggs was around to see he's still such an inspiration. Now I kind of want to see that same pattern on the right shoulder placed on the left knee pad, but that maybe asking too much  Great stuff, Gits!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/06 18:45:03
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/5:assault marine finished!)
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
Norwich - England - usually in the pub
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Nice work as usual Gits'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/06 19:15:08
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (3/5:assault marine finished!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fantastic paintwork Gits!
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