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Railguns wrote:He's going to do something to Living Ammo. I can feel it. It's such a cool, characterful rule

It'll probably be nerfed to being a reroll at -1 or something.

Confer -1 to any subsequent Ld test taken!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Well if Robin's writing it expect every rule from the current Codex to be changed. Yes, every single one.

Well, this is new.

Since they're doing special characters, I'm hoping they being Grendal back. He was a mean one.

Hopefully the French will leak a PDF with the units like they did the IG 3 months early again. Eyes peeled next month!

Hello and welcome to Channel 2 news.

The miniatures company Games Workshop has now officialy dropped all races of their game Warhammer 40,000 with the exception of the "EVER POPULAR" Space Marines.This means that anyone who is looking forward to the new 'nids 'dex can shove his hopes up his a$$.

Now, the weather forecast fo the next week...

Aduro wrote:Since they're doing special characters, I'm hoping they being Grendal back. He was a mean one.

Grendel? The only Special Characters I remember ever being in a GW Tyranid Codex was the Red Terror and Old One Eye.

Grendel was a fan-made Hive Tyrant character I saw at a website over 10 years ago, back during 2nd Ed. Where else has it shown up?

Here's hoping that Without Number get's the subtle tweak that they gave to Chenkov's Conscripts i.e. You get to choose when the unit is removed, instead of waiting until it is wiped out.

And now this post is gone due to it being impolite.

Having another bad day Tim?

Tim the Biovore wrote:There is barely anything stopping me from calling you what I think. I can just say that you should get a life and stop being a fething loser. And in other news...

...aaaand that's still a violation of Rule #1. Please click on Rule #1 in my sig for a complete list of the Dakka rules.

Thank you.

I don't think it was fan made, I think it was an actual GW campain that he was part of. The two fan made ones I remember were Kraken (befor there was a hive fleet) and Crusher.

For those who don't know him, Grendal was a tyrant with bone sword, lash whip, venom cannon, with lictor cover rules, and a veil of darkness.

Wow Grendal does sound bad ass a lictor hive tyrant mix thats really mean, but awesome.

OK, I apologise. I could have restrained myself, but when your me everyday is a bad day. I'm just sick of people acting like they know everything, because of course there is a new Nid Codex coming out, your just trying to defend the 'power' of your own army.

I hope they make a new lictor model.. the 2nd ed one is cooler then todays one and that is sad.

Also I hope the codex is ridicuolusly broken .. just for laughs.

Hoping for balancce with GW is like hoping to live while playing russian roulette with a glock.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Railguns wrote:He's going to do something to Living Ammo. I can feel it. It's such a cool, characterful rule

It'll probably be nerfed to being a reroll at -1 or something.

How crazy would it be if they just made it poison?!

Shaman wrote:Hoping for balancce with GW is like hoping to live while playing russian roulette with a glock.

Bwahahah! Sigged.

This is totally my opinion, and has no source or basis. But my prediction is the following:

Plastic kits: Gargoyles, Raveners, Hive Tyrant. Warriors and gaunts get recut.
Metal kits: Broodlord, 2 "special characters"

1. All the guns will get nerfed, inadvertently, through the streamlining of the Str: S+1 assault X. This will make close combat more viable. The biggest victim will be the devourer. Venom Cannon will not be strength 10 anymore because Warriors can take them and you can take a unit of warriors all with Venom Cannon. I think strength 9 would be overpowered but might just make it through if they are recutting the warrior sprue and want to sell loads. Fair strength of VC seems 8 (if it can penetrate), but if they want to sell loads of warriors, might be 9. That will "fix" that part of the VC/BS Fex. Devourer will be even worse, since gaunts can take it. Im guessing strength 3 assault 3. Im hoping its Poisoned 4+ on gaunts, and poisoned 2+ on MC's. BTW if you have a strength 3 poisoned 4+ weapon, can it wound a toughness 8 or toughness 7? Barbed Strangler might stay the way it is, ie str8 large blast pinning, which would make it overpowered on warriors, which is kind of what they want to do.

2. Raveners will get a lot cheaper in points because Im guessing they get a new plastic kit, and they are the natural extension of the Trygon. If you want to sell lots of trygons and raveners make both of them cheap and good, and you sell both. If you make 1 of them lame, especially the Trygon, you are risking people dont go for that build.

3. Gargoyles will get a lot cheaper, and will be the unit of choice to provide MC's with cover saves - especially Flyrants since they move at the same speed.

4. If Hive Tyrants get a new plastic kit, they will get a cut in points. This is also to compensate that the most popular build of the dakka tyrant, will get nerfed hard. Also you will be able to take 2 flyrants. Tyrant guard goes down in points too.

5. You can take broods of Fexes in HS, but I doubt that you will be able to take them in Elite anymore. Im guessing you can equip them differently and allow abuse of wound allocation. That way they can be more survivable and be able to walk across the battlefield.

6. Spore mines get good. Really good. So do biovores. I also think we are getting an Exocrine. Thats the bug that Im guessing is supposed to make the Fex look like a dwarf.

7. Psychic Powers will get really good.

I'd like to see the trygon create an entry point for 'deep striking' swarms.
That would be super fluffy and really fun.

Only one warrior per brood can take a venom cannon, by the way. And two flyrants is a bit stupid, unless you can take gargoyles as a troops choice.

According to the new and latest rumours, if you take a brood of warriors as heavy support, they get +1T, +1Sv and ALL can take heavy weapons.

Ive been sigged by the chaplain of hate.. I am honoured.

All the hate towards special characters; I understand it when the character is rather cheesy but I think at this point players will complain if their codices aren't like that.

saryrn wrote:BTW if you have a strength 3 poisoned 4+ weapon, can it wound a toughness 8 or toughness 7?

Yes, poisoning bypasses the "to wound" chart entirely

Yeah, nerf the venom cannon so that it's maximum strength is 8. Gotta make sure Nids have no powerful anti-tank at all.(/sarcasm) I hope against hope that they keep the "weapon stats are tied to creature using them" approach, because it's something no other army in the game does and helps to characterize the Nids far more than a simple statline per gun. It isn't hard to figure out, so they can't say that the "streamlining" helps anything. The only confusion I've ever, ever heard was when an old Tyranid player was almost sure that toxin sacs didn't affect weapon strength because scything talons didn't, because someone told him that(probably at a tournament)

Railguns wrote:Yeah, nerf the venom cannon so that it's maximum strength is 8. Gotta make sure Nids have no powerful *ranged* anti-tank at all.

FYP.

Personally, I'm happier if the variable-S thing goes, especially if Nids are getting a lot more species added. Variable S means that both players need to know the basic S values of every Nid model, along with the +/- adjustment of every Nid weapon. Fixed S per ranged weapon is much easier.

That said, I'd be OK with the Venom Cannon being S9 A2 and only glancing.

JohnHwangDD wrote:That said, I'd be OK with the Venom Cannon being S9 A2 and only glancing.

I am sure that anyone who doesn't play tyranids would agree . I, however, wouldn't. Strength 10 glancing isn't effective against transports as it is, strength 9 would be worst .

S10 A1? OK.

It's a wonderful dream

JohnHwangDD wrote:S10 A1? OK.

Railgun nids? Awesome

I wouldn't be surprised if they did something to circumvent the "Remove Model" rule because as it stands "Jaws" will still own the poop out of nids.

I don't see the reason for Venom Cannons to have the "only glance" rule anymore.

The rule was written in Third and Fourth edition where a glancing hit could still kill a vehicle. With 5th edition, that ability for a Venom Cannon to kill a vehicle was removed, and for a weapon that has such a limited capability to be taken in an army in the first place, it's an unnecessary restriction.

I think a better idea would be a straight Str. 10 AP 2, -1 on the vehicle pen table.


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I wouldn't be surprised if they did something to circumvent the "Remove Model" rule because as it stands "Jaws" will still own the poop out of nids.

I have a feeling that will be answered with the Nid's own psyker ability.