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**Scarey Nerd**

Oooo... A Sanctuary 101 movie would be amazing... It could almost be in the style of the Blair Witch Project or Cloverfield, because in Hellforged a recording is taken from the site of the battle. Then you wouldn't see the Necrons much, just hear screams as the camera turns around and someones body is being pulled through the floor by metre-long claws, or something else...

**asimo77**

I think it would be more like Aliens. The SOB aren't helpless campers.

**Scarey Nerd**

asimo77 wrote:I think it would be more like Aliens. The SOB aren't helpless campers.

I'm not saying they'd be terrified and running around like headless chickens, I mean that there'd be a Sister with a shoulder-mounted camera, as in the book.

**asimo77**

Ok I see what you mean, you were talking about the cinematography rather than the content of the films.

**Scarey Nerd**

asimo77 wrote:Ok I see what you mean, you were talking about the cinematography rather than the content of the films.

Indupitably.

**nosferatu1001**

Dead Men Walking is a great book as ewll. DKoK vs Necrons

Agreed with Cadian on ADB - awesome writer!

**Ouze**

nosferatu1001 wrote:Dead Men Walking is a ~~great~~ book as well. DKoK vs Necrons

Fixed that for you. Just finished it about 2 hours. IMO, it's middle of the road at best. I'm beginning to think Eisenhorn really was a fluke, and the rest of the BL just plain sucks, the end. Starting Damnos today, followed by Ravenor (crossing fingers for Ravenor).

**Grim.Badger**

Ouze wrote:
nosferatu1001 wrote:Dead Men Walking is a ~~great~~ book as well. DKoK vs Necrons

Fixed that for you. Just finished it about 2 hours. IMO, it's middle of the road at best. I'm beginning to think Eisenhorn really was a fluke, and the rest of the BL just plain sucks, the end. Starting Damnos today, followed by Ravenor (crossing fingers for Ravenor).

I found that it was well written, but not really likeable due to the fact that I disliked the protagonists from the start - both the DKOK and the natives.

Have you tried Storm of Iron? McNeill is by far the best BL writer in my limited experiance.

**TyraelVladinhurst**

and what'll happen if crons get shelved for another army?

**kenzosan**

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:and what'll happen if crons get shelved for another army?

death to gw!

**Defeatmyarmy**

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:and what'll happen if crons get shelved for another army?

I highly doubt theyre just gonna shelve the necrons after all the hype and release of the tomb kings. They might postpone the release date as everyone is hating on the GK rules, for many good reasons. I say expect necrons this year, but save your money and wait for the official release date before buying anymore imo. They might change flayed ones to troops, warriors might have upgrades that wouldnt work with converting the current ones, etc. so just like the GK im expecting some major changes to give necrons a more diverse army type.

**shasolenzabi**

Ravenor was also good.

Yeah Deadmen Walking also left me feeling that there was little to like about anyone in that story.

**TyraelVladinhurst**

kenzosan wrote:
TyraelVladinhurst wrote:and what'll happen if crons get shelved for another army?

death to gw!

i agree... what do you wanna bet GW gives us a stupid marine release in place of the crons?

**Vermillion**

And now unveiling Codex: Tartan marines, complete with fluff as believable as the Braveheart film was historically accurate

**Ascalam**

ROFLD

What's bad is when people who grew up on Braveheart et al try to correct your knowledge of history

Codex Tartan Marines had better come with a how-to painting guide or a hell of a lot of transfer sheets

**kenzosan**

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:i agree... what do you wanna bet GW gives us a stupid marine release in place of the crons?

salamander codex o.O

**Ascalam**

Or Black Templars

Or any one of another hundred or so chapters..

**kenshin620**

Codex Custodes! Your point values make GK paladins look like tactical squads!

But if indeed the pattern of codexes is Marine -> Non Marine then that leaves us with either Tau/Sisters/Crons

unless they pull a fast one and eldar pop out of no where

or they think GK dont count as marines

**Asphalt**

I am a little torn, As much as I would like to see some new units I reallly like the Necron theme of hundreds of thousands of the same thing marching down on the defender. That said, I love the new things they did with the tomb kings, and since they are the fantasy equivelant, I do have high hopes for something very nice.

**kenshin620**

Asphalt wrote: That said, I love the new things they did with the tomb kings, and since they are the fantasy equivelant, I do have high hopes for something very nice.

I dearly hope though that we will not get a $120 battleforce. That would ruin things quickly

**Kroothawk**

Some collected rumours by ghost21 over at Warseer, also interesting for readers of "Fall of Damnos" (FOD):

I think "Fall of Damnos" is a great place to look for what's coming and I've heard it's 5 kits with some blisters ala Dark Eldar.(...)

Warriors are not being redone. There may be an additional sprue representing upgrades, and the colours but otherwise no(...)

To be honest, I've not heard of the jump infantry. then again I had only heard about 2 troop choices, the big necro giant, tomb spiders, some sort of necron artillery piece (...)

Kurgash wrote:Any word on pariah changes? Or should I buy up the ones I can find now

Not in the first wave at least. I've heard of some sort of bodyguard unit, but again not in the first wave.
I saw a copy of the draft rules for the necro giant , and all I can say is resurrection abilities with guns, and melee attacks that ignore saves.
Oh, and C'tan won't be in the book, it was silly to put them in the previous one. I mean Khorne isn't in Codex Chaos Space Marines or Daemons, is he? (...)

Remember who's writing this (I don't want to start the whole "bash that guy" thing but yeah there's some pretty wacky OMG overpowered stuff there) (...)

And I never saw a phase sword in the old Necron dex, and don't think we will see one now (at least not in anything I've seen),
but apart from that expect insane abilities on elites (flayed ones I'm looking at you). (...)

Zinch wrote:
Kurgash wrote:Now it makes one wonder what the other troop is aside warriors...

I guess scarabs...

Yeah, I'd say that was accurate. (...)

Kelvan wrote:Did you see any relationship between stuff described in FOD novel and in new Necron dex?

I probably shouldn't say this, but at least 2 of the named lords there are supposedly characters in the dex (from the names at least , though only found that out after reading FOD). At least one will get a figure (I've seen it, it had a version before but he was never released)

And wraiths are not the new fast attack (there wasn't one in the version I've seen) but that was at least 1 or 2 before the printed dex, (wraiths are harsh now)
There is a lord that makes flayed ones troops (...)

TimLeeson wrote:Flayed ones as troops is great news, still - I want to do my pure wraith army and ill be annoyed if I wont be able to do that. They are the coolest unit in terms of fluff and models in the whole game for me, personally.

He is a ... well b** **** crazy, think he will be quite popular , and I never saw squad leaders. Then again only saw squad upgrades

(Took the liberty to correct some spelling and grammar errors for easier reading

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**kenshin620**

Understandable the normal crons are likely to stay the same, too iconic like space marine tac squads

I wonder what we're suppose to do with all of our Ctan models anyways

**Kroothawk**

I hope the C'Tan will get the DoW treatment: A Lord can transform into a C'tan avatar under certain circumstances. Makes much more sense.

**Sasori**

5 kits with some blisters, oh my, that would be amazing.

If two of those kits are multi-unit kits, it would make me giddy.

**H.B.M.C.**

So... should I be buying the Deceiver and the Nightbringer models now?

**Ouze**

H.B.M.C. wrote:So... should I be buying the Deceiver and the Nightbringer models now?

No, cause they both kinda suck anyway, imo

I suspect when FW redos them, they will be substantially better. And, as an aside...

Grim.Badger wrote:Have you tried Storm of Iron? McNeill is by far the best BL writer in my limited experiance.

Sorry for the omission of this; yes, I enjoyed Storm of Iron a great deal. I agree with the guys who said the biggest problem with Dead Men Walking was simply that, although it was technically well written, there were no characters or factions that were sympathetic enough to like at all.
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**kenshin620**

Ouze wrote:Sorry for the omission of this; yes, I enjoyed Storm of Iron a great deal. I agree with the guys who said the biggest problem with Dead Men Walking was simply that, although it was technically well written, there were no characters or factions that were sympathetic enough to like at all.

40k? Sympathetic? What part of GRIMDARK do you not understand!

**Scarey Nerd**

kenshin620 wrote:
Ouze wrote:Sorry for the omission of this; yes, I enjoyed Storm of Iron a great deal. I agree with the guys who said the biggest problem with Dead Men Walking was simply that, although it was technically well written, there were no characters or factions that were sympathetic enough to like at all.

40k? Sympathetic? What part of GRIMDARK do you not understand!

By sympathetic I assume he means in the way you can understand a race's motivations: The Tyranids are just hungry and want some meat in their bellies, Tau just want to expand and assert themselves as fully-fledged members of the galaxy (Probably just made a profile on Spacebook), etc etc.

As to the new rumourings, not too pleased about the C'Tan, but hopefully if they are shunted into Apocalypse or we get a Manifestation power for our Lords, then at least my Nightbringer model won't be useless. Despite the fact he's missing an arm.

**Dr. Temujin**

Vermillion wrote:And now unveiling Codex: Tartan marines, complete with fluff as believable as the Braveheart film was historically accurate

Or as believable as Apocalypto is historically accurate

And of course, they all revere Roboute Guilliman as their spiritual liege.

**Ascalam**

He does shed those arms easily, doesn't he

I'm hoping to be able to use them for more than objective markers/bookends myself, because i rather like telling marines players that T8 is NOT wounded on a 6 by S 4

I've had that 'discussion' dozens of times, and it never grows old digging up the to-wound table in the rulebook and watching Superiority complexes crumble

Given that my metal sociopaths are rather badly outclassed these days it's still nice to turn the tables once in a while...

I'll miss them if they go, but i'm sure they will.