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Now I actually think this skaven warlord is your best model to date. The colors are showing out perfect, but remember if it is for a show piece then DO NOT put a coat of varnish or matt sealent on it.

Wow! Your painting is fantastic. The colours are so clean and smooth looking. Great work!

Not sure where to start here


1: Im going to have to steal your method of painting those badges for the termies i have (picked up 5 hulk termies to play about with)

2: Count me in for the vids, ive been stuck in this dead end town all my life
Seeing something like that would make a change, and possibly push me towards taking time off lol.

3: how does being thin fit the criteria for goth?
Amy-lee from evenessence is 1 example, and not soo much goth, but hayley from paramore (i do listen to some reaklly random music)
also, it may last longer, but you spend how long painting?
Not like you would go into shading and highlights on nails...... right? 0_o

4: The teaser is just that
Been looking into it for a while as a project, but generally hate FW's service.
did you put the thing together, and if so, was it a pain in the arse? (the hair on it looks annoying on its own)


5: (and final)
Loving the progress so far, that korv model is looking really nice, and may cost me soon

Munch Munch! wrote:

Alpharius wrote:

Munch Munch! wrote:I thought ravenguard had pale white skin, black eyes because of some sort of mutation thing.

They do!

The older the Raven Guard marine, the paler the flesh, the blacker the eyes!

How can something become blacker than black? lol.

Huh, a wiseguy, eh?

Index Astartes wrote:
The Melanchromic Organ has a unique mutation that causes the skin of the Space Marine to grow paler. Eventually each Marine's skin becomes pure white while their hair and eyes darken, becoming black as coal.

So, imagine your eyes start out a nice light blue color and your hair is blond.

Also imagine that you've been inducted into the Raven Guard chapter.

Then, imagine that, as time goes by, your eyes turn dark blue, and your once blond hair beings to darken.

Then, as more time goes by, they both get even darker! Maybe your eyes are so blue as to be almost black!

And your hair?

It isn't even brown now - but black as well!

Then, as even more time goes by...

...yes?

Thanks for the thorough explanation Alpharius... You certainly got the spirit of it all uh!!

Wow, female gamers are rare, but they always kick male gamers' rear's when it comes to painting skills! Very cool, you ought to have no trouble getting commissions!

Krov is coming along nicely.

In addition great blending and highlighting of the skaven. Really liking the colors that was used on him.

Keep it up

Hey love your stuff! i shall have a good look at your models tomorrow and see if i can find anything you can improve though i don't think i will find much.. it's truly top notch!

i've found Platoon Britannica the best place for painting tips from the pro's... after all it is the british miniature painting forum. it was started by ben jarvis the slayer sword winner last year among others. you can find it at: http://www.platoonbritannica.org.uk/

Good luck!!

Chris

Many replies!

Gitsplitta: Cheers, that is exactly what I am aiming for, which this site has helped insanely.

Empchild: The camera blurred the highlights, he is really not as smooth as he looks as he is a speedpaint, so 4 layers of paint/wash per area max. I do think I could highlight that smoothly if I spent the time on him though, but I am forcing myself to be as fast as possible as a exercise.

Cain: Thanks dude.

Jjjjack: I should have the vids soonish, mem cards are fine but camera is having a derp attack trying to upload the pics+vids to our pc's, may have to just get a card reader instead.
The FW Demon was assembled (bar the hair) when I was given her, but she was seriously brittle, I was afraid she was going to shatter every time I picked her up. Colour scheme was once more down to the owner, but she turned out pretty cool. He attached the hair afterwards and based her, so I have no real experience if she was awful to assemble or not.
And no, my nails are not fancy sadly. Unlike the chav girls back home with 10 inch talons encrusted with faux diamonds and printed on klimpts. I feth you not.

Alpharius: Cheers, I feel at least 2% nerdier now!

Timwhosomemaycall: I'm booked up till December so it is going pretty well I am delighted.

Scipunk: Thanks I am starting to really like the white prime now, I have to say. The real challenge at the mo is working out what parts I should quickly undercoat darker and at what point in the model process, like his chest and belly will need a black/brown base now to bring them up to dirty metal.

SONS of ORAR: Thanks for the tip, I can check that out while at work!

Iiiiiffy: lol, atleast you have a cam at the mo
Mine got "borrowed" so ill see that in a week or so i guess.
atleast it gives me some time to work on the termies. (gotta love cell shading for quick results )

Thats what i feared.
I have a tendancy of having a drink (or 10) while i paint, so i think i may have to pick the model up and paint while sober (would be a 1st)
Im sure ill swear a few times putting it together though.


Ive got a black nail too, mine was the result of side door on a van lol.

You missed that those hands were clasping a can of stella or white lightning
But otherwise it sounds like the local wildlife here.




Random Q here, but you do the same as me and paint assembled right?
Any way to avoid the usual problems of obscured areas?

(cant stand glue after paint as im not the most careful person, 1 slip and its back to the brush)

I do paint assembled for the most part.

The only exceptions would be horses+ riders or something with an ignorantly large shield which I would try to add on last.

I get around it with a size 0000 brush and a lot of furious concentration.

I do like to have some JD and coke or Jaeger and red bull while I paint, but while messing around on my own models

Picking up 5 chaos termies and a new demon prince tomorow for a commish, going to be painted up as iron warriors, but not sure if he wants pre heresy (?) or not yet. Will be fun!

Ah, i tend to go a step further and keep the whole model together lol.
I just find it annoying to try and glue after paint, even more so with a heavy metal model (thirster springs to mind)

Not sure on exact size of the brush i use since i get them from an art shop not too far from me, but its near on 3-5 bristles, yet takes soo long because of this i end up leaving models half finished.

Had me on the JD, then lost me as soon as you added in a mixer for it
You cant ruin one of the best drinks in the world like that (absinthe '80 being the best, followed by JD then smirnoff blue)
Saying that, most of my injuries while messing about were while i was sober 0_o


Now you have my interest yet again :(
Do you only take class commissions or something?
Yet to see a model i dislike.

also, if you want daemons to play about with, just ask.
A friend quit recently and left me a 3k army, with 4 princes (1 is now skarbrand) all 4 greater daemons and a ton of basic troops.

Very impressive stuff! You are very skilled.

۞ Jack ۞ wrote:
Had me on the JD, then lost me as soon as you added in a mixer for it
You cant ruin one of the best drinks in the world like that (absinthe '80 being the best, followed by JD then smirnoff blue)

You can when you are 4ft11 and would like to not be off your face within the hour!
I handle alcohol shockingly well for my size (lewl Irish) but I still need to mix up spirits so I can actually enjoy them ¬_¬

I will take on any model, I have just been having good luck so far with very interesting ones, hah.

And thanks Regnak

Ifalna wrote:

۞ Jack ۞ wrote:
Had me on the JD, then lost me as soon as you added in a mixer for it
You cant ruin one of the best drinks in the world like that (absinthe '80 being the best, followed by JD then smirnoff blue)

You can when you are 4ft11 and would like to not be off your face within the hour!
I handle alcohol shockingly well for my size (lewl Irish) but I still need to mix up spirits so I can actually enjoy them ¬_¬

I will take on any model, I have just been having good luck so far with very interesting ones, hah.

And thanks Regnak

4ft 11?! Wow.. no wonder your painting is so well detailed..... you are almost as small as the minis!

Regnak wrote:
4ft 11?! Wow.. no wonder your painting is so well detailed..... you are almost as small as the minis!

Haha, yes, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEKYKYbmc_Q&feature=related is exactly what a day in my life is like.

Ifalna wrote:

Regnak wrote:
4ft 11?! Wow.. no wonder your painting is so well detailed..... you are almost as small as the minis!

Haha, yes, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEKYKYbmc_Q&feature=related is exactly what a day in my life is like.

Ifalna wrote:Update time

Started on Korv's skin earlier today. I like to do the entire face at the same time layer by layer.

Flesh foundation with a layer of sepia/flesh wash, then the eye picked out and mouth based.



After that it takes a dwarf flesh highlight and then a final elf flesh highlight with washes used to paint in shadow around the mechanical parts.

Teeth are astro grey brought up to skull white with devlan mud around the roots, tongue is mecha brought up to blood.

I was thinking about picking one of these up, how was the actual cast? easy to clean up, or was the figure warped like some of FW's other stuff?

He was actually pretty flawless when I got him bar a tiny amount of mold line.

The owner had assembled and primed him but from what I heared there were no issues.

Shrike on the other hand only had half a face, for serious :( The side in all the photos is fine, the other was just empty, like a massive bubble had gotten cought and wiped out half his head.

Luckily it was very hard to see unless you wanted to specifically look for it, but it was still an amazingly bad cast.

Cool thanks, I had the same problem with one of my Sternguard, where the backside of his head was so miscast I needed to gs it.

I find it remarkable they'd send out miscasts. I assume the volume of their shipments would be pretty low so they ought to be able to ensure some quality control.

Sounds like some of the casting I've been doing...

I'm not that shocked with GW sending out awful casts honestly, I have seen some hilariously bad metals over the years.

The first kits I ever bought was a box of Silver Helms. One of the horses had a nub instead of a hoof. And it was one of the hooves that were off of the ground, you know, contributing to the galloping look. I was crushed. Never been excited about High Elves since.

Well the High elf horses were not exactly.. pleasant on the eye, even with 4 hooves.

The new ones are lovely in fairness.

I have a high elf mage that is so badly molded that the two halfs dont actually fit together, and one side is a good mm higher. It is crazy.

I got the limited edition chaos sorc a few years back and its entire bottom half was just riddled with holes and massive missing chunks.

Ifalna wrote:I'm not that shocked with GW sending out awful casts honestly, I have seen some hilariously bad metals over the years.

I got an absolutely shocking box of Sternguard Veterans. Much like your problem with Captain Raven. I took them back and my local GW were excellent about it. They gave me another box plus a $10 voucher (Which I spent before I left).

By law if a product is defective they are (In New Zealand anyway) required to either refund or replace said product... Give it a try next time you get a bad one ^_^

Wow...it seems I am still fortunate about not getting any miscasts or other problems with models.

I have dealt with FW so many times and never had warping issues, which kinda surprises me when others claim that every purchase they had was messed up.

My only beef with your paintjobs is that the skin just looks...too human for the Raven Guard.

Vent GW are the same over here, if there is a problem with a cast or pieces missing from a set GW normally just send you a replacement and a lot of the time let you keep the messed up one too. See they're not all bad..

Kanluwen wrote:My only beef with your paintjobs is that the skin just looks...too human for the Raven Guard.

I went as light as I was comfortable to go to without losing out his lovely details :(
Final two highlights are 9/1 skull white to codex, and pure skull white. I kind of feel that if I had not had a greyish base, his detailing on the face could have been lost out a bit, as he has fantastic wrinkles and scarred bits!

Do you think a paler base would have worked out better? Im all about improving as much as possible

Ifalna wrote:Do you think a paler base would have worked out better? Im all about improving as much as possible

No, I think you've got the right balance. If you tried to go lighter / paler the face would of lost all definition and just become too white. The problem then would be the face and the white would look far to similar. It's good, move on to the armor. ^_^