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We have Sisters of Battle & that's all that's needed to fill this niche spot you're asking about.
   
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As a female gamer who plays Marines, all I can say is... Seeing female Space Marines introduced would feel a little weird.

I'd much rather they just expanded female models in lines where it makes sense. (Guard, Eldar, generic Xeno races for Tau)

That and I wouldn't mind seeing some female Power Armour models that ain't Sisters of Battle, my Inquisitors are sad.
   
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I say YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Space Marines are asexual, (more or less) mindless, mutant, warrior space monks that run around in the equivalent of an M1 Abrams in clothing form. They've already turned them into nauseating mary sues with a dozen identical flavors, why on earth would we need yet another variant of them?

How exactly would you even know if a Space Marine was female? It'd still be a hideous mutant wrapped in several tons of ceramite, wielding a rocket launching machine gun. Or, it would be identical to a SoB, in which case: why bother making it a Space Marine in the first place?

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"Why, exactly, would having female Space Marines destroy the integrity of the game?"
Nice logical fallacy.

Why not have Nurgle be a good guy?

Why not have Eldar be a growing race?

Why not have chaos necrons?

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Sir Pseudonymous wrote:Space Marines are asexual, (more or less) mindless, mutant, warrior space monks that run around in the equivalent of an M1 Abrams in clothing form. They've already turned them into nauseating mary sues with a dozen identical flavors, why on earth would we need yet another variant of them?

How exactly would you even know if a Space Marine was female? It'd still be a hideous mutant wrapped in several tons of ceramite, wielding a rocket launching machine gun. Or, it would be identical to a SoB, in which case: why bother making it a Space Marine in the first place?


Is the Ultramarine movie not a good example? When they took their helmets off they looked like men, not hideous mutants.


I am sad to see that many people didn't seem to care to comment on the Sisters of Silence. Give me a codex/model range for them and a decent codex/model range for the sisters of battle and I will shut up about female marines.

To me the intergalactic slong fest seems odd. By looking at the games, you would think that females account for less than 1% of the population.

Also I have seen posts saying marines were cloned genetically and that they are collected from worlds and recruited. Which is it?

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Luke_Prowler wrote:Yes, the discussion to rip apart an entire section of fluff for a fetish
Seriously? Don't be a jerk and make that kind of assumption.
ph34r wrote:
"Why, exactly, would having female Space Marines destroy the integrity of the game?"
Nice logical fallacy.

Why not have Nurgle be a good guy?

Why not have Eldar be a growing race?

Why not have chaos necrons?


1: Isn't he?

2: Actually, having one of the craftworlds growing instead of shrinking would be an interesting (and potentially dangerous, for said craftworld) plot twist for that craftworld and potentially change their outlook on the galaxy at large. I support it.

3: Technically, if one could prevent them from teleporting back somehow, Necrons could quite definitely be corrupted. If Grey Knights can be corrupted, Necrons certainly aren't immune-- in fact, the Necrontyr and their C'tan overlords are supposed to be weaker to psychic stuff anyway.

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Space marines should be males. Females can go to the SoB.

 
   
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I voted yes. Of course in marine armor with changes at the genetic level there's be no way you could tell the difference in armor.

Restrictions or other notes:
-Fine as long as this is not an excuse for BOOBAGE armor
-Fluffwise many reasons from Ad mech experimentation to one of the two lost chapters.


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Melissia wrote:Sure, why not.

That it would piss off certain Marine fanboys would only add to my amusement.

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I prefer Doctor Thunder's style of female marines. EDIT: Not the looks particularly, though some of the more restrained ones are quite good, but their existence in the fluff.

More or less SoB sized females who are used to infiltrate human populations - I think his fluff is far more interesting than most who want female marines anyway.

Plus this way they will be unique to CSM armies - finally something we can lord over the SM players!

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Go femarines! I all for female spacemarines never unnderstood why GW never did it.

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Melissia wrote:
Luke_Prowler wrote:Yes, the discussion to rip apart an entire section of fluff for a fetish
Seriously? Don't be a jerk and make that kind of assumption.
ph34r wrote:
"Why, exactly, would having female Space Marines destroy the integrity of the game?"
Nice logical fallacy.

Why not have Nurgle be a good guy?

Why not have Eldar be a growing race?

Why not have chaos necrons?


1: Isn't he?

2: Actually, having one of the craftworlds growing instead of shrinking would be an interesting (and potentially dangerous, for said craftworld) plot twist for that craftworld and potentially change their outlook on the galaxy at large. I support it.

3: Technically, if one could prevent them from teleporting back somehow, Necrons could quite definitely be corrupted. If Grey Knights can be corrupted, Necrons certainly aren't immune-- in fact, the Necrontyr and their C'tan overlords are supposed to be weaker to psychic stuff anyway.



1. Nurgle is a bad example. Slannesh being a good guy now...

2. Eldar as a race arn't growing. a single craftworld might have more babies, but it would be an isolated incident.

3. Grey knights can't be corrupted. it has never happened. Heresy i say

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1: But slaanesh only wants to have fun! No reason to go through life without enjoying yourself.

2: No they aren't. But if they started to recover from their losses and begin growing again it'd still not be a bad story-- after all, they might be growing but they've still fallen far from their old glory and they'd have to struggle to retain what they have and reclaim what they can.

3: True, but that's not what Matt Ward seems to think.

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3. heresy, lallallallalalalalalanotlistining stillnotlistining

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Grey Templar wrote:

3. Grey knights can't be corrupted. it has never happened. Heresy i say



If it can't happen, then why did they bother smearing SoB blood all over themselves? BTW that sounds like corruption to me. If a police officer smeared some nuns blood all over his uniform so he wouldn't become a bad cop, then they would probably lock his Khorne loving butt up.

You brought this on yourselves. You said they couldn't be corrupted, well the 667th test says it just might happen.
   
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there are only 666 tests unbeliver.


the blood was as extra warding against the forces of chaos, "For the blood of innocents is as an unwavering shield against the darkness"

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It's also a tasty delicacy for khornate worshippers!

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avondale wrote:Go femarines! I all for female spacemarines never unnderstood why GW never did it.


Because the core market for GW is young teenage boys. At that age, your heroes and role models are always going to be tough, manly men, and Space Marines are the very manliest men around.

Having lady Space Marines would ruin the whole image.


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Grey Templar wrote:there are only 666 tests unbeliver.


the blood was as extra warding against the forces of chaos, "For the blood of innocents is as an unwavering shield against the darkness"


Is it really?

Doesn't that sort of mean that innocent people are immune to Chaos? They are full of their own blood.

Surely as soon as a Chaos invasion starts on a planet it would get stopped dead.

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Grey Templar wrote:there are only 666 tests unbeliver.


the blood was as extra warding against the forces of chaos, "For the blood of innocents is as an unwavering shield against the darkness"


No I saw Ward's notes. He forgot to put the 667th test in, but it will be in the errata.

Basically the test is that Grey Knights are told that the Blood Tide can surpass all of their wards and crap they use that makes them uncorruptable. They are told the only way to protect themselves is to slaughter some nuns and smear their blood all over themselves and have a manbloodorgy. However this is a lie and only part of the 667th test. Those who do this fail the test because they put doubt in themselves and perform a Khorne Blood Ritual. If they would have kept their faith and believed in their already uncorruptable status and not had a blood bath, then they would have passed.

The 669th Test is even worse. It involves Space Dolphins.


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ph34r wrote:
Why not have Eldar be a growing race?


Only the Craftworld weaklings have shrinking populations, those who haven't forgotten that they were once masters of the galaxy are doing fine

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Melissia wrote:Bah, the manliest man around is Ollanius Pius.


And GW tried to write him out!

It's a conspiracy!1!!!!

SMs are second manliest.

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Need I say more?

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ph34r wrote:Why not have chaos necrons?





Why not, indeed?

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fox-light713 wrote:

Need I say more?


This is why I don't trust people to make femarines, they'll just put them in the bikini version of power armor, and have no helmet.

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Mr Nobody wrote:
fox-light713 wrote:SNIP[/url]

Need I say more?


This is why I don't trust people to make femarines, they'll just put them in the bikini version of power armor, and have no helmet.


But if they said they would do that, I would trust them. I like Bikinis.
   
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Meh, if I was to do femmarines I'd just make sure all of my models are wearing their helmets. you couldn't tell the difference between female marine and male marines inside their armor anyway.

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Darth Bob wrote:

IB4L & Flamewar that always comes from bringing up this topic.

As for my opinion...if you want boobs on Marines, play Slaanesh.


This is awesome, and absolutely worth reading this thread for! I laughed so loud when I saw this.....

That aside, I think Marines should be neither male nor female.....I mean, wihout being crude, it's established that they have three lungs, two hearts and a whole host of other things that basically seperate them from "humanity" as it were.

Astartes have no need of gender as they do not reproduce and don't need to get "jiggy".......in that way, if I had the power, I would simply end this argument by changing the fluff so that any human (male or female) could be transmuted into an Astartes...what comes out the other end of the tube doesn't have a willy or a vagina, and doesn't have breast!

The final product is a super efficient killing machine, designed for war and nothing else.....basically a humanised version of a Tyranid I guess.

There you go, problem solved!

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Sckitzo wrote:And no matter how many things you push through a IV your not going to change bone structure.


Well then you don't know much about turning a human into a space marine. Changing the bone structure is an important part of the transformation. The process is so overwelming and the new hormone regulating organs mean they go through completely different changes to a normal human.

So it is easy to assume that a female, if able to go through the same process, would look the same as a male. Add this to the fact that space marines are warrior monks/knights they have no use for femininity. So a female space marine would look the same as a male space marine.


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