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They seem super powerful based on the leaks. I hope the bladed cog doesn't apply to pursestrains.

The bikers are everything SM bikers should be but I digress.

Todays article supports these leaks. They seem legit.

GunSmith wrote:
Since it seems to be unfunded, and because i'm clearly not the only one to have access to it, i think i can give away my "source" for the Gravopter Duneskimmer:

It's from the Starn Disciple booklet ( from the Kill Team GSC boxset with the Kelermorph, so a lot of people will be able to confirm this): There is a fluff part which describe one of Starn act, in which he attack a magna-train (Cow-boy style) using some of these Gravopter Duneskimmers to do so.
It might seems fishy, but, as some may have noticed, i'm not an english speaker :p and in our books, units name are never traduced, and this on was to. Duneskimmer in english. So this, plus the fact that the vehicle is used by a Genestealer character can lead us to think we will have a new vehicle. But on the other and, the name reminds me more of AdMech. So i kinda like the idea that this thing could be used for both armies, like the tanks from the AM ^^

Soo this source means, it was in mentioned only fluff wise, but the model doesn´t exist?

The Sniper, by virtue of using Perfect Ambush, can one shot enemy Psykers during their own turn when they're revealed from hiding.

That sounds like perfect anti-ork defense, to me. Very excited to learn it's points.

Seito O wrote:

GunSmith wrote:
Since it seems to be unfunded, and because i'm clearly not the only one to have access to it, i think i can give away my "source" for the Gravopter Duneskimmer:

It's from the Starn Disciple booklet ( from the Kill Team GSC boxset with the Kelermorph, so a lot of people will be able to confirm this): There is a fluff part which describe one of Starn act, in which he attack a magna-train (Cow-boy style) using some of these Gravopter Duneskimmers to do so.
It might seems fishy, but, as some may have noticed, i'm not an english speaker :p and in our books, units name are never traduced, and this on was to. Duneskimmer in english. So this, plus the fact that the vehicle is used by a Genestealer character can lead us to think we will have a new vehicle. But on the other and, the name reminds me more of AdMech. So i kinda like the idea that this thing could be used for both armies, like the tanks from the AM ^^

Soo this source means, it was in mentioned only fluff wise, but the model doesn´t exist?

I understand where He is coming from. But in the german Booklet that was in the Dark Imperium box, several other nurgle sorcerers were mentioned. Like the Maggotmancer. Their names were in english, contrary to the german text. But no models have been released for them so far, so I would not get my hopes up in this case either.

-Get salty that GW only ever talks about or draws things that have models in the game.

-Get salty that GW mentions or draws something then doesn't come out with a model for it.

Pick one, boys.

^^ Just was curious. Sorry if it sounded accusingly.

This army is shaping up to be pretty nasty. Creep is real boys. I kind of am getting a sinking feeling. This army is looking too good.

 Red Corsair wrote:
This army is shaping up to be pretty nasty. Creep is real boys. I kind of am getting a sinking feeling. This army is looking too good.

I think it's early. What I find to be the most pressing question is:

1) Will Brood Brothers/Genestealer Units like the patriarch and purestrains get the sub-faction bonuses? Will vehicles? I assume vehicles will because of the Rusted Claw or whatever seeming like a vehicle-themed subfaction, but I'm not certain due to interactions like the genestealers getting 4++.

2) What brood brothers will be available? It kind of sounds like the current system of being able to ally in AM freely is going away, replaced instead with more "brood brothers' folded into the main codex. What abilities will Brood Brothers have? Will the GEQ infantry squads/tanks/hwts mentioned have cult ambush? Will we get a leman russ with bonus armor save or with fall back and shoot?


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Honestly, the strongest "creep" I see so far in this codex is the ability to get better access to busted Guard units that were in the third codex released in the game... :p

Honestly as an Iron Hands player /fan I stopped reading the leaks after The Bladed Cog.

New Article

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/30/30th-jan-genestealer-cults-rules-preview-part-2gw-homepage-post-1/

Disagree, you have to be blind not to see the writing already.

7pmm acolytes that pop up at will with a 7" charge lol

Neophytes that can receive a 3+ save in cover and shoot at BS 3+ for 5ppm

The bikes are the most outragious though, -1 to hit, t4 2w with no doubt a 4+ save, so a 3+ with rusted claw for only 10ppm

All the leaked characters are very good.

We haven't even seen the strats or relic yet!

I already see nasty combos. The alphus buffs anything near her, not the unit she spots like it was originally leaked (or I read it) thats insane. She can buff leman russ battle tanks and mortars.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Honestly as an Iron Hands player /fan I stopped reading the leaks after The Bladed Cog.

All the power armor traits are out of date by a mile at this point, oh and btw still only effect infantry and dreads lmao.

Scrambler array. Yikes.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Disagree, you have to be blind not to see the writing already.

7pmm acolytes that pop up at will with a 7" charge lol

Neophytes that can receive a 3+ save in cover and shoot at BS 3+ for 5ppm

The bikes are the most outragious though, -1 to hit, t4 2w with no doubt a 4+ save, so a 3+ with rusted claw for only 10ppm

All the leaked characters are very good.

We haven't even seen the strats or relic yet!

I already see nasty combos. The alphus buffs anything near her, not the unit she spots like it was originally leaked (or I read it) thats insane. She can buff leman russ battle tanks and mortars.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Honestly as an Iron Hands player /fan I stopped reading the leaks after The Bladed Cog.

All the power armor traits are out of date by a mile at this point, oh and btw still only effect infantry and dreads lmao.

Wow, a 5ppm unit with a 3+ save in cover? So they're like those super-OP guard veterans we've been seeing dominating top tables, except they get +1 to their save instead of FRFSRF...but who uses that amirite?

The bikers have "no doubt" a 4+ save? Like what other unit of bikers in the game that gets a better armor save than the model riding it? I can think of one - Windriders. Every other biker unit seems to have the same armor save as the model riding it. Youre freaking out about a bike unit that is armed with autoguns and chainswords on a guard statline, with no weapons on the bike itself.

I get that jumping into your chicken little impersonation whenever we get the first rules details for an army is kind of your thing, but it never stops being silly, Corsair. Ork stormboyz are what, 8ppm? they deep strike and charge more reliably than 7" charging neophytes with the Evil Sunz kultur, do more damage, and they haven't been taking the game by storm.

the_scotsman wrote:-Get salty that GW only ever talks about or draws things that have models in the game.

-Get salty that GW mentions or draws something then doesn't come out with a model for it.

Pick one, boys.

I don't get comments like this. This is what the second time I read this on Dakka now. Not everyone thinks the same way. Not everyone is saying the same thing over and over again. So if one person is complaining about no minis when GW mentions or draws something doesn't mean someone else can't complain that that what is drawn has minis. That is like saying if one person loves eating sardines, out of a can in public, then everyone needs to think like that as well.

Prices for all this weekends upcoming cult stuff (via my facebook supplier)

Codex - Genestealer Cult RRP £ 25.00
Data Cards - Genestealer Cult £10 RRP
Dice - Genestealer Cult £17.50 RRP
Atalan Jackals - Troop Unit £ 32.50 RRP
Clamavus - Genestealer Hero - £15 RRP
Locus - Genestealer Hero - £15 RRP
Magus - Genestealer Hero - £15 RRP
Nexos - Genestealer Hero - £15 RRP
Sanctus - Genestealer Hero - £15 RRP
Tectonic Fragdrill - Genestealer Scenery- £35 RRP

no multipack for the characters sadly so I'll have to pick them up over time

At least they're "only" 25$ - they're practically showing restraint compared to the gouging they gave the poor marine boys for their primaris marine cahracters.

Gotta pay extra for that 32mm base I guess.

As a newly minted SW player I would kill for this psychic power: Mass Hypnosis - CV7 - Visible enemy unit within 18" can't fire overwatch, fights last in fight phase even if it charged and -1 to hit until your next psychic phase. .

Cool models, cool rules, varied tool box, can soup, good strats, good pyschic powers and good traits. Not saying these guys are Yanarri but if I played guard or nids I would be really excited about starting a new GSC army. For the GSC players that have suffered through the long wait for this dex I think the wait may have been worth it.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Disagree, you have to be blind not to see the writing already.

7pmm acolytes that pop up at will with a 7" charge lol

Neophytes that can receive a 3+ save in cover and shoot at BS 3+ for 5ppm

The bikes are the most outragious though, -1 to hit, t4 2w with no doubt a 4+ save, so a 3+ with rusted claw for only 10ppm

All the leaked characters are very good.

We haven't even seen the strats or relic yet!

I already see nasty combos. The alphus buffs anything near her, not the unit she spots like it was originally leaked (or I read it) thats insane. She can buff leman russ battle tanks and mortars.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Honestly as an Iron Hands player /fan I stopped reading the leaks after The Bladed Cog.

All the power armor traits are out of date by a mile at this point, oh and btw still only effect infantry and dreads lmao.

Wow, a 5ppm unit with a 3+ save in cover? So they're like those super-OP guard veterans we've been seeing dominating top tables, except they get +1 to their save instead of FRFSRF...but who uses that amirite?

The bikers have "no doubt" a 4+ save? Like what other unit of bikers in the game that gets a better armor save than the model riding it? I can think of one - Windriders. Every other biker unit seems to have the same armor save as the model riding it. Youre freaking out about a bike unit that is armed with autoguns and chainswords on a guard statline, with no weapons on the bike itself.

I get that jumping into your chicken little impersonation whenever we get the first rules details for an army is kind of your thing, but it never stops being silly, Corsair. Ork stormboyz are what, 8ppm? they deep strike and charge more reliably than 7" charging neophytes with the Evil Sunz kultur, do more damage, and they haven't been taking the game by storm.

Wait what? When am I a chicken little? I think you might ease of the personal vendetta lol.

the_scotsman wrote:
At least they're "only" 25$ - they're practically showing restraint compared to the gouging they gave the poor marine boys for their primaris marine cahracters.

Gotta pay extra for that 32mm base I guess.

In the spirit of keeping my army as old-school as possible, I think I can convert a Clamavus out of the third Magus from the left (one with microphone), and a Nexos out of the second Magus from the left.

Ca$h $aving$!




Regarding power level, it's important to note that we're in the Goldilocks phase of this codex release. Which is the time when we start hearing about the cool stuff without more context about how it all fits together. Personally, what I see is GW making more playstyles possible beyond leaning hard on Cult Ambush table results.

Davor wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:-Get salty that GW only ever talks about or draws things that have models in the game.

-Get salty that GW mentions or draws something then doesn't come out with a model for it.

Pick one, boys.

I don't get comments like this. This is what the second time I read this on Dakka now. Not everyone thinks the same way. Not everyone is saying the same thing over and over again. So if one person is complaining about no minis when GW mentions or draws something doesn't mean someone else can't complain that that what is drawn has minis. That is like saying if one person loves eating sardines, out of a can in public, then everyone needs to think like that as well.

He seems to be in a sour mood lol

Look at how he went off on me for feths sake.

@scotsman Opinions vary my man, try not making things personal and just enjoy the discourse like a grown up.

Oh look, an HQ using a Heavy rifle better than Marine characters. Ya know, while riding a bike too.

These rules look very powerful IMO. Excited to play some Genecults! Was hoping Acolytes would get a needed boost, and am quite happy.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Oh look, an HQ using a Heavy rifle better than Marine characters. Ya know, while riding a bike too.

Eh, its like one of the few humanoid packing a full size rifle instead of the goddamned pistol/ccw mix, I can't complain.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Oh look, an HQ using a Heavy rifle better than Marine characters. Ya know, while riding a bike too.

Truthfully, I feel like the same could be said for basically everything here.

Oh look, an HQ doing logistics better than Guard/AdMech characters->Nexos, Primus, Clamavus trio

Etc Etc Etc

I'm hoping this is a sign of a shift in design mentality and the last vestiges of the 'old' way of doing things being taken out to pasture.

Agreed w/ the over-the-topedness of some of it. They are human-hybrids, after all, however, and gain from the alien biology of the tyranids.

Looks like certain army configurations can really mess with enemies relying heavily on character synergy.

Jackal Alphus, pair of Sanctus and a Kelermorph could force them to keep their heads down and out of sight. For nonsense like a Smash Captain, that’s quite a nice counter - if of course one works for it.

I am intrigued.

It's almost like GW went in with the "how can we break every fundamental rule of balance that we've spent the last two years building" mindset with this codex.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Oh look, an HQ using a Heavy rifle better than Marine characters. Ya know, while riding a bike too.

Truthfully, I feel like the same could be said for basically everything here.

Oh look, an HQ doing logistics better than Guard/AdMech characters->Nexos, Primus, Clamavus trio

Etc Etc Etc

I'm hoping this is a sign of a shift in design mentality and the last vestiges of the 'old' way of doing things being taken out to pasture.

Yea it's really refreshing that they didn't default to reroll 1 bubbles. That was getting to be such a lazy and tiresome trick.

It would be nice to see marines get some better tricks when they get a new book. Like a captain providing fall back and shoot Etc Etc instead rerolls. Maybe make captains from other companies do different tricks.

All in all I am excited and happy, but this does look like some serious creep. Bookmark me and call me out later if I am wrong, I hope I am, but when an armies crap doctrines are Catachan +1 and Fall back and fire +1 thats crazy.

There are 12 characters which is crazy, so many buffs. Calling them a guard vet equivalent doesn't work. They get to deny spells, add 1 to charges and advances, get +1 to hit in assault, +1 to hit in shooting, redeploy, reroll morale, or fearless, and reroll 1's in shooting. All that before traits or psychic powers or considering they can deepstrike or counter deploy with the blips. I don't think there is another army that comes even close to that many auras.

I am going to need a huge bag of widgets to remember all those aura buffs. Good opportunity for someone with a lazer cutter out there.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks like certain army configurations can really mess with enemies relying heavily on character synergy.

Jackal Alphus, pair of Sanctus and a Kelermorph could force them to keep their heads down and out of sight. For nonsense like a Smash Captain, that’s quite a nice counter - if of course one works for it.

I am intrigued.

Your right, plus you can Clamavus him back 12" although I am not sure what he would smash that would pay for his cost.

The clamavus is going to be a requirement for the GSC mirror match lol. First two turns will revolve around each side sniping the guy and hoping he fails more bodyguard checks

12" flamer?
Clearly power creep.

Totally sensible - but pls fix all the rest.