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 Jancoran wrote:
Avenger Strike Fighter? Where's the info on that. i saw one one time and haven't heard or seen anything about it since.

Imperial navy section of forgeworld:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Navy/AVENGER_STRIKE_FIGHTER.html

Can be used by sob and ig.

Well well well... is it a Sisters thing or an IG thing?

It's a sisters and ig. Both can use it. Fluff wise it's perfect for sisters. They have access to other fliers but they arnt as effective or worth their points. I think sisters have 2 or 3 fliers available through forgeworld, great thing is they are non apoc.

Problem with the missiles is they are Ordnance. If you fire an Ordnance weapon all your other weapons can only be snap-shotted.

I run mine with Autocannons and just focus on infantry/light armor.

I dont support Forge World use in Tournaments (Im pretty adamant) but in casual games, it would be fun to have a flyer that isn't like everyone elses.

Using Forgeworld produced 40K models is fine.
And frankly, without Forgeworld, sisters don't get the Repressor transport, which is a massive help to them.

Obviously all the Apoc stuff is out, but most all for 40K is fine.

The repressor? Its absence hasn't seemed to cost me any games. What will cost me games is absurdity like the Achilles and the crazy drop pods and things of that nature. One doesn't need a vast imagination to suppose what thosekinds of things will do to a game of 40K. So again, maybe for casual games if your opponent says "sure, looks like fun". Otherwise, nay.

Not opposed to all Forge World by the way. I like some of it.

We don't really have anything "must have" game mechanically in forgeworld, Fluff wise it really is "must have" for me though. They are not terrible units either, and makes the army look more varied and different than without. It's not like we get anything official new from gw, and the last codex update decided to reduce the amount of available units rather than add to it. Not that I mind the focus of shift from witch hunters to just sisters of battle, just wish they would have added some new units and models to go with.

I was trying to find the Achilles in the imperial armor books I have available, 1 and 2, but couldn't find it. Which book is it located in? The site recommends the imperial armor apocalypse book, but I assume it only has apocalypse units? Checking out the drop pods they didn't seem that crazy, and I think I saw a mention of all the imperial armor books getting a rule update in the future to put them in line for sixth edition? They did it with the first book anyway.

Speaking of repressors, does anyone have an easy way to comvert the old style rhinos into them?

I'm really not too keen on paying for 5 of them to replace 5 rhinos.

The only ' easy way ' (see: cheaper, it'll be a reasonable amount of effort or it'll look like ass) would be a combination of Plasticard, Foamboard and bits.

Or use old style rhinos as rhinos and new style (with immo top) for a repressor.

 pretre wrote:
Or use old style rhinos as rhinos and new style (with immo top) for a repressor.

I like that idea

 Shandara wrote:
Problem with the missiles is they are Ordnance. If you fire an Ordnance weapon all your other weapons can only be snap-shotted.

I run mine with Autocannons and just focus on infantry/light armor.

Aha, since we (sob) don't have any ordnance I had forgotten how they work, I have a vindicator of old but haven't used it since last summer. I do however feel like our anti infrantry is covered well enough as it is? In that case then autocannon seems to be the best choice.

I am trying to plan for a 2000 point game, and for that I am trying to (kinda have to) spend some points in a canoness with command squad or celestians. Is the command squad a waste of points, or is it potentially good by adding three multimeltas combined with the act of faith? Is there anything in the rules that says the canoness has to join the command squad, or can I just add a small command squad with an MM immolator while putting the canoness with celestians? The canoness seems to go better with celestians where they can buff her str and she can buff their initiative. To that effect I am trying to plan her wargear as well, and it seems I am in the same conundrum as with the seraphim in whether to bring a melta pistol or eviscerator. The melta pistol might go better with the command squad option. The eviscerator is wasting her initiative boost on her act of faith, but can work well with the celestians act of faith, making it hit at 8str. That's 4 attacks at 8str, ignores armor (and wounds on anything str4) and ws5 on the charge with possible preferred enemy. I guess the rest of the celestians would go with h. flamer, flamer and maybe plasma pistol/sword on the superior to maximize their melee/close range effectiveness? Would it also be best to go with a squad of 6 and put them in an MM immolator? I wish the canoness herself wasn't so squishy with an armor save of 3+ and T3, so even with 3 wounds she will get one hit by anything str6+, stubborn does help though.

Alternatively, might it be better to spend the points on uriah jacobs or a confessor with plasma gun and some combination of battle conclave?

Sorry for asking so many questions and thanks for the help.

To tired to read that but, I dropped Kryinov from my list and in return maybe a suicide unit of Dominion sporting a pair of meltas.

Scout the meltas in and let my rhinos rush forward, the dominion scoot around the building and pop a tank or two.

Both command squad and canoness are a waste. If you have to take one or both, make them very cheap.

Better to just take another BSS squad, or add repentias then?

For fast attack, is it best to go with one seraphim squad and two dominion squads? I am actually not too fond of scouts since I feel they make too tempting targets for my opponents and will score them first blood easier, so I feel that if I should take one dominion squad I should probably take two for target saturation? Maybe drive them together to give each other cover? I do feel that seraphim squad is better, but I also don´t feel like I need two of them.

As it is now, I have coteaz and a henchmen squad in every list I make, which does help fill some points.

Remember you can outflank scouts if you go second.

Post up your list and we can take a look.

Well, that was more me contemplating a thematic sisters only list. You can see my current 2k list here though:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95293/SisterGK2000template.xlsx

The ones that are marked in yellow are the hot units which I consider moving in or out depending. I am 16 points over the total, which I might take out from the seraphim squad, or I might take out the gk squad and add inn another bss.

I have not gotten to test the dreadknight yet, as I´ve only had time for smaller games lately, so will be fun to test it. I am worried that it will die too fast and not be worth it´s points, and an autocannon dread with psybolt ammo might be better. However, most of that list is based upon the discussion from the last two pages.

Not sure why I should take bastion over ADL though, I don´t think I want my retributors in there as they will not be able to fire everything at an enemy unit through only 2 windows on one side. Taking the ADL gives me a better gun and at 10 points less, and I can put the retributors behind the armored line.

I haven´t fully understood outflanking as I haven´t had to read up on it yet, not using any scouts myself, nor have any opponents, so I do not know if it´s any good or bad.

You might want to cut an paste. I can't hit Dropbox.

 Acidian wrote:

I haven´t fully understood outflanking as I haven´t had to read up on it yet, not using any scouts myself, nor have any opponents, so I do not know if it´s any good or bad.

Really? Missing the boat! Going second is a distinct possibility ion every game so you gotta have a plan.

Infiltrators AND Scouts can make an outflank move.

They start in reserve. As normal, you roll to see if they come on from reserve (3+). If so you roll AGAIN to see which SIDE they come on from! So in other words, the board edges opposite the ones you deploy from are where they pop out!

1-2 Left side
3-4 Right side
5-6 Your choice

So 67% chance of being on the side you want, behind enemy lines! You can take your dedicated transports with you. So you could move on 6", deploy up to 6" and burninate/Meltinate whatever happens to be standing there.

It's fun. But more importantly, if you are going second, it allows these powerful units to squeeze the enemies deplyment without even being there and then blast anything silly enough to be standing too close to the edges. either way you are now Line Breaking, havent exposed yourself before your ready to enemy fire and if you make good use of terrain, you'll be able to Pac-Man the enemy from the sides as well as the front.

Good times. I was the Reserve gambit king in 5E. there's a little less need for it in the new rules but its still awfully good for Sisters of Battle Dominion squads.

I just deleted a small and angry rant about painting sisters repentia. I am never priming anything with exposed flesh black ever again.

Yeah, requires a few more layers that way.

Curious, but has there been any new rumors of new models? The last rumors were months ago and I am fixing to buy some stuff soon hopefully.

Someone will suggest that plastic Sisters are in the make soon (tm) in due course.

I would not suggest waiting for plastic sisters. I have been hearing rumors of and waiting for plastic sisters almost since I started playing. (So about 15 years.)

What is everyone thoughts on Repressors, ignoring the fact that they are from forge world. Thinking of buying some.

They look decent on paper for Doms but are probably too spendy for normal sisters squads (both points and cost). Sisters squads should be as cheap as possible, imo.

Their only 15 more points then a rhino. Not to mention they come with a heavy flamer, storm bolter, dozer blades and lots of fire points.

Oh, I get it. I just don't think they are worth it for SOB squads.

Doms? Heck yeah, every day of the week.

Are they even really worth it for doms though? Most of the firepoints can only be used for "basic weapons" which I always took to mean no special weapons.