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 CaptKaruthors wrote:

Did Dire Avengers really just go from 10 for $37.50 to 5 for $35?!?

Yup. Which is why I'm pissed! So now, even buying 2 boxes only gives you 8 regular guys and two exarchs...which is fething stupid! God forbid we get a full squad of troops out of the box...

not that it's any cheaper but the have the (option) to make an exarch, so you don't have to so you can do 5 guys or 4 guys and an exarch

Eskrigian Guard wrote:

 Fezman wrote:
I posted earlier that these prices feel like GW pushing their luck...if the Dire Avenger boxes of 5 sell well, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see other armies getting the same treatment.

I'm just glad I've already got plenty of Boyz; imagine if they got the same treatment...

Or termagants.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440297a&prodId=prod1050155

And actually, they're cheaper per model this way.

wow...the dreadknight is 4" tall...the riptide goes to 6" now the eldar get a 9" tall robot??? that thing is almost as tall as my reveneant titan!!!!

i want a darkeldar 14" giant robot now. or where is the necron 46" monolith? comeon...

 DarthSpader wrote:
wow...the dreadknight is 4" tall...the riptide goes to 6" now the eldar get a 9" tall robot??? that thing is almost as tall as my reveneant titan!!!!

i want a darkeldar 14" giant robot now. or where is the necron 46" monolith? comeon...

I'm just waiting on my 20" Tall Tyranid !


Plastic Harridan COME ON!

 DarthSpader wrote:
wow...the dreadknight is 4" tall...the riptide goes to 6" now the eldar get a 9" tall robot??? that thing is almost as tall as my reveneant titan!!!!

Obviously 6th edition Grey Knights codex will have 12" tall "Dreadlord.

Honestly, I'm considering if I'll even pickup a Dex or not. At those prices playing in tournaments again at a competitive level is too steep for my blood. Not playing in tournaments = why have a legit copy of the dex? Here's hoping for fast torrents for the dex

BTW: Fun fact: The F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter was a bomber, not a fighter. The USAF didn't bother correcting people, and the plane is now retired.

One error in there, the USAF deliberately gave it the F-117A designation because F is for fighter, rather than giving it a B for bomber. The public had nothing to do with that. This was to attract their best pilot candidates to the program because most hot-shot pilots would rather fly fighters than bombers and they thought the "F" made it sound more appealing to prospective pilots, which turned out to be generally true.

 Wilytank wrote:

Eskrigian Guard wrote:

 Fezman wrote:
I posted earlier that these prices feel like GW pushing their luck...if the Dire Avenger boxes of 5 sell well, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see other armies getting the same treatment.

I'm just glad I've already got plenty of Boyz; imagine if they got the same treatment...

Or termagants.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440297a&prodId=prod1050155

And actually, they're cheaper per model this way.

Shush, they might hear you!

Well, pricing aside, I'm already listed at my FLGS for a dex and the WK.

Because of the pending rumours, also just ordered 2 boxes of DA.

Eldar currently at 4500pts, after getting competitive again, the only thing left for me will be FW.

This release is gonna hurt.

 Alpharius wrote:

<<Opening warp conduit>>

<<Seeking contact...>>

<<Contact established>>

<<Channeling Platuan4th!>>

KNIGHTS AREN'T TITANS!!!

OK, back to your regularly scheduled broadcast...

I laughed at that, my wife wondered what the hell was wrong with me.

I swear to God that expect him to show up whenever I unwittingly type "Knight Titan".

I don't really know what to call them! Just "Knights" and people will wonder if I am speaking of WHFB. Knight-class walkers?

 Alpharius wrote:


<<Opening warp conduit>>

<<Seeking contact...>>

<<Contact established>>

<<Channeling Platuan4th!>>

KNIGHTS AREN'T TITANS!!!

OK, back to your regularly scheduled broadcast...

That would be great if one person's opinion counted as what does and does not qualify in 40k lore, but naming convention would beg to differ:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Titan#.UZqdarUWthA

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knight#.UZqd07UWthA

Still, rather than arguing semantics, I will say this should be good news for anyone expecting Knight Titans in Imperial and Chaos variants with the upcoming Apoc redux. Just expect them to be $150 by July.

I kinda like the Wraithknight. It may not look quite like the other wraith constructs, but screams "1980s' sci-fantasy" all over the place.

But on the other side, I find it strange that such a miniature ever got greenlit for a codex release. Its sheer size breaks all established canons of scale for a "normal" battle of 40k and, assuming the rumors are true, despite its size and the fact that it probably uses enough sprues to build yourself a house out of them, it's priced WAY too high for a codex miniature. No miniature outside FW and Apocalypse releases should be priced above the hundred dollars mark. It's insane.

What is this for, then? To prove Dreamforge they can make absurdly big mechs too? To show PP that they can also make Colossals and price them accordingly?

Cool links Starfarer, thanks for the heads up. Didn't know they were in the fluff till now!


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 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

But on the other side, I find it strange that such a miniature ever got greenlit for a codex release. Its sheer size breaks all established canons of scale for a "normal" battle of 40k and, assuming the rumors are true, despite its size and the fact that it probably uses enough sprues to build yourself a house out of them, it's priced WAY too high for a codex miniature. No miniature outside FW and Apocalypse releases should be priced above the hundred dollars mark. It's insane.

What is this for, then? To prove Dreamforge they can make absurdly big mechs too? To show PP that they can also make Colossals and price them accordingly?

I think it has to be marked up like the stompa as an Apoc only. If not then maybe the rumors of Thunderhawks in the next SM dex might be true. Maybe Stompas will appear in the ork dex if GW see fit to bring Apoc and 40k together?

With all these price increases, GW actully made 3D printers affordable.

I personally will be getting a wraithknight, yeah its expensive but i think its a nice model and will be a great centre piece for my army.

I cant wait to see better pictures of all the other models, im intriguied by the what sounds like a ranger special character.

The Dire Avenger situation is a complete kick in the balls though, i have 30 but im tempted to get one more box before they are halved

 Fezman wrote:
I posted earlier that these prices feel like GW pushing their luck...if the Dire Avenger boxes of 5 sell well, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see other armies getting the same treatment.

I'm just glad I've already got plenty of Boyz; imagine if they got the same treatment...

Well nobody should be surprised. GW has done this for LotR. Funny thing, nobody cred so they didn't rise fuse. Now GW done it to 40K and Fantasy, people rise n issue now? Little bit too late for that now. GW thought we accepted the price hike, so now it's here to stay.

I want that Wraithknight.

I will *not* pay $115 for it. Hell, I probably won't pay for it at 30% off.

I might have to visit seedy corners of the internet.

Well, more seedy than normal.

Davor wrote:

 Fezman wrote:
I posted earlier that these prices feel like GW pushing their luck...if the Dire Avenger boxes of 5 sell well, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see other armies getting the same treatment.

I'm just glad I've already got plenty of Boyz; imagine if they got the same treatment...

Well nobody should be surprised. GW has done this for LotR. Funny thing, nobody cred so they didn't rise fuse. Now GW done it to 40K and Fantasy, people rise n issue now? Little bit too late for that now. GW thought we accepted the price hike, so now it's here to stay.

No one cried about LotR because no one bought into it lol. At least everyone I know in this area looked at the prices and just laughed.

 TalonZahn wrote:
I want that Wraithknight.

I will *not* pay $115 for it. Hell, I probably won't pay for it at 30% off.

I might have to visit seedy corners of the internet.

Well, more seedy than normal.

It's getting to something when the models are so expensive I wouldn't even pay what an "unofficial" version would probably cost!

baxta182 wrote:

The Dire Avenger situation is a complete kick in the balls though, i have 30 but im tempted to get one more box before they are halved

This is the bigger problem I have with the release. $7 a plastic fig is a bad sign for future pricing. With recent releases, we may be looking at $5ea for Troop/Core choices and $7 for elite/special choices. Only thing that doesn't sit with me, don't recall there being any talk of the Dire Avenger boxes being recalled and the 10 man box is still available online. All the boxes are still out there, if they were reboxing, they would have recalled existing kits.

The Wraithknight price is bad, but is it not surprising. Figures from other companies have already demonstrated the tabletop miniature market will accept a $100 figure without question. Curious as to box size.

I really like the wraith knight and look forward to seeing the size of it compared to the other monsters but I would just feel dirty buying one and could certainly not ask for it as a gift.

'Hey you know those models I collect, yeah, could you buy me this new one thing, its £70, oh no its probably nothing special and could probably be removed in the first turn but......you know.'

I guess you could say that I'm lucky I have a birthday coming up soon...

Seems that my eldar go back into the display case... But before that, buy at least one Dire Avenger Squad before GW makes it go full slow.
If I convert the Wraithknight price from dollars to euros it makes it even pricier than a Baneblade or a Stompa.

Sayonara Eldar, until I find a place that actually sels it for a normal price.

As a casual 40k Player with a small footdar force, I couldnt be happier with these new kits. I hope they did a nice job with the wraithguard kit and options. That will make it a great release for me.

Like others have mentioned- i hope this means all these wraith units being released alongside an iyanden supplement is a precedent for eldar craft world releases. Biel-tan codex with more robust aspect options and aspects as troops? Yes please! Sam Hann supplement with updated bikes, vypers and new fast attack options? Yes please! Think about all the money we will throw at GW, and most of us will do it with smiles on our faces. It's diabolical.

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
Seems that my eldar go back into the display case... But before that, buy at least one Dire Avenger Squad before GW makes it go full slow.
If I convert the Wraithknight price from dollars to euros it makes it even pricier than a Baneblade or a Stompa.

Sayonara Eldar, until I find a place that actually sels it for a normal price.

That's a pretty extreme reaction as we don't know anything a out the rules? Surely the lack of new models in the release is almost good news(!) for existing players? You could be one codex purchase away from being the new Necrons.

Holy crap is it supposed to be the same size as a stompa?! I sure as hell know the new battle pics of the apocalypse book (rumoured of course) will be magnificent, still, I am salty about the price.

 Starfarer wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:


<<Opening warp conduit>>

<<Seeking contact...>>

<<Contact established>>

<<Channeling Platuan4th!>>

KNIGHTS AREN'T TITANS!!!

OK, back to your regularly scheduled broadcast...

That would be great if one person's opinion counted as what does and does not qualify in 40k lore, but naming convention would beg to differ:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Titan#.UZqdarUWthA

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knight#.UZqd07UWthA

Still, rather than arguing semantics, I will say this should be good news for anyone expecting Knight Titans in Imperial and Chaos variants with the upcoming Apoc redux. Just expect them to be $150 by July.

Except that the Lexicanum entries are wrong. The actual Epic entries on Knights are very clear that Knights aren't Titans, yet the Lexicanum entry decides to follow the colloquial belief that has arisen that they are a Titan class.

In addition, that's a relatively recent change. The Lexicanum entry also used to make absolutely no mention to them being Titans(it also used to be about a single paragraph long).

Tpiddy wrote:
As a casual 40k Player with a small foot guard force, I couldnt be happier with these new kits. I hope they did a nice job with the wraithguard kit and options. That will make it a great release for me.

Like others have mentioned- i hope this means all these wraith units being released alongside an iyanden supplement is a precedent for eldar craft world releases. Biel-tan codex with more robust aspect options and aspects as troops? Yes please! Sam Hann supplement with updated bikes, vypers and new fast attack options? Yes please! Think about all the money we will throw at GW, and most of us will do it with smiles on our faces. It's diabolical.

I truly hope you are joking. The mini 'dex is the same price as the Codex. As for smiles on our faces while throwing cash at GW? I have to ask: What have you been smoking? Sure we all bitch about the prices and keep buying 40K stuff. But I don't know anyone that is happy about the money they spend on it. GW continues to push more and more people out of the hobby with pricing shenannigans like this.

 azreal13 wrote:

That's a pretty extreme reaction as we don't know anything a out the rules? Surely the lack of new models in the release is almost good news(!) for existing players? You could be one codex purchase away from being the new Necrons.

It might be in your eyes. I mean, do you expect me to buy the new Dire Avengers when the old box had 5 more in it for the same price. Some things might be good like the Wraithguard (If they stay the same price), but pricing the troop choise like that... I'd actually see it scare new players away.