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Is the Special Edition a difrent price or just a limited time?

plastictrees wrote:It's clearly a warped Dreadnought though, it's not some entirely new thing like the Defiler was back in the day. There's no reason you couldn't use existing Dreads as Hellbrutes, barring specific gear selection restrictions of course.

Right, I get that, and I don't think it would be a big deal either way. It just seems unlikely that they would remove such an iconic unit(if only in name) from Chaos, which I why I'm guessing it's a daemonically possessed dreadnought essentially, but the standard option will be available as well. If not, anyone can still use the old dreadnought models as Hell Brutes, as you said.

Fafnir wrote:Vaginas. EVERYWHERE.

Err...I beg to differ, I guess? Nothing looks overtly like a vagina to me.

sennacherib wrote:Yeah the hellbrute defied all my expectations. SO excited to nurgle one of these up. Fantastic. I was expecting lots of spikes and some weak khorn icons or somesuch smeared all over it but as a nurgle conversion it will be pimp.

Cultists say it all if you ask me. THey are fantastic stuff. I could care less about the loyalist scum though they might be conversion bait....

Yeah, it was quite the surprise for me as well. Gotta say I was most looking forward to the cultists from the early rumors, but they are the ones I'm least excited about now. They will probably end up as a Necromunda gang for me.

Why bother converting the loyalists? Just trade them off for another set of Chaos. It's gonna be a trading frenzy come release week. Hell, I've already got a tentative trade lined up from earlier in the thread.

Starfarer wrote:

Fafnir wrote:Vaginas. EVERYWHERE.

Err...I beg to differ, I guess? Nothing looks overtly like a vagina to me.

Not when I'm done with it.

So is this the new Deathwing motif? Studded for your pleasure?

Fafnir wrote:

Starfarer wrote:

Fafnir wrote:Vaginas. EVERYWHERE.

Err...I beg to differ, I guess? Nothing looks overtly like a vagina to me.

Not when I'm done with it.

And Fafnir steps up to replace Doomthumbs


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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:So is this the new Deathwing motif? Studded for your pleasure?

Yeah, that plus them saying the Captain's power sword is "erect" again shows GWs (not)subtle inuendo with Dark Angels.

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Fafnir wrote:

Starfarer wrote:

Fafnir wrote:Vaginas. EVERYWHERE.

Err...I beg to differ, I guess? Nothing looks overtly like a vagina to me.

Not when I'm done with it.

Haha, fair enough.

Grey Templar wrote:

Fafnir wrote:

Not when I'm done with it.

And Fafnir steps up to replace Doomthumbs

Heh, it would seem so.

Grey Templar wrote:

Synister_Intent wrote:I think the Hellbrute is the new Dreadnought.

Nah, its definitly a Monstrous Creature. Like the Dreadknight.

We've already seen the stat line for it and it's av 12/12/10.

Backfire wrote:

Kalamadea wrote:
Anybody know why the Chaplain is marked limited edition, and what he will be available from? He appears to be listed on the right of the white dwarf scan (it's cut off), but wouldn't ALL of these figs be limited edition and exclusive to the box set? Or do they plan on releasing the rest of these as seperate boxes, unlike the figs in past starters?

I guess it's just a cynical marketing ploy. AIUI, they will be selling first "limited edition boxes" with the Chaplain, and then "regular" version once the "limited" runs out. So what will happen is that people who otherwise might be on the fence will rush to buy the limited edition to get the Chaplain.

I hope its as you say. Would be nice to buy with a discount as ill be getting at least 2 right off the bat.

Really?

I wonder why they gave it a Power Fist instead of a DCCW.

Wow the models look great! cant wait to pick up the set, the forces seem alittle one sided though

As always, GWs starter sets have ever been nicely balanced. Macragge was close though.

although the DAs will struggle with the Hellbrute only having Plasma and an assault cannon to shoot it with.

Unless it is a MC, then the AC, plethora of plasma and the power fists will be an effective counter to it.

Wow. Just wow. Now I have to start a CSM army. Great.

Grey Templar wrote:Really?

I wonder why they gave it a Power Fist instead of a DCCW.

Unwieldy doesn't effect monstrous creatures and dreads?

Grey Templar wrote:As always, GWs starter sets have ever been nicely balanced. Macragge was close though.

although the DAs will struggle with the Hellbrute only having Plasma and an assault cannon to shoot it with.

I'm pretty sure the 2 dreads with p-fists and especially the one with the chain fist have a even chance at doing something to it as well.

i think im going to add some traders to my DA

plastictrees wrote:It's clearly a warped Dreadnought though, it's not some entirely new thing like the Defiler was back in the day. There's no reason you couldn't use existing Dreads as Hellbrutes, barring specific gear selection restrictions of course.

Or convert existing dreads to Hellbrutes. Looks like it might be fun to add muscled thighs and shoulders and other fleshy bits (and toes!)

Tim

I just realized something: true general lack of the much-scorned spiky bits! These CSM do NOT look like Liyalists with spikes and extra skulls. Bodes well for the CSM revamp to come.

And, with the recent Daemon releases, and word of WoC in the WHFB release pipeline, it has never been a better time to turn to the ruinous powers!

catharsix wrote:I just realized something: true general lack of the much-scorned spiky bits! These CSM do NOT look like Liyalists with spikes and extra skulls. Bodes well for the CSM revamp to come.

The big problem is there is a massive plastic range there to revamp. I can't see it happening. With new plastic kits to add, I can't see them replacing old things like the current Chaos marines, Terminators or Berzerkers. So you'll have a fairly divided range - old style spikey loyalists, and new style actual chaos Marines.

Something tells me a great deal of the old line will still be used; the new stuff however is probably geared towards more fun with mutations and specific Gods than ever before.

Digging the new models... really want those new bikers!

My only real complaint is I can't find anyone who wants to split the box and take the Dark Angels half. Those Chaos dudes would be an amazing start to my Tzeentch themed force I want to do.

-Loki- wrote:My only real complaint is I can't find anyone who wants to split the box and take the Dark Angels half. Those Chaos dudes would be an amazing start to my Tzeentch themed force I want to do.

Yes, Chaos buyers will outnumber DA buyers by at least 5 to 1. There are lot more Chaos players, and almost everything in the DA set already exists in one form or another, or can be made using excellent DA upgrade sprues. Chaos stuff is much more unique.

I'll likely ebay off the Chaos bits that I dont use for conversions if I cant sell them to my brother. The DA components are exactly what I need to bring my marines to a nice 1500-2000 point force that might actually be effective. Plus I like the new models and mini rulebook.

The starter set could quite be quite a deal if you were making Fallen Dark Angels... hmmm

Ok, those are fairly amazing and really going to test my nerve to not buy the starter set, but on a slight tangent, why have GW not considered releasing the two halves of AOBR?

Call them a reinforcement squad or something and charge £30 or so as a mini battle force. It seems a shame to let the tools just sit on the shelf...

Those are STUNNING!

Do you think the hellbrute will have stats like a dreadnought or a dreadknight?

Tod wrote:Do you think the hellbrute will have stats like a dreadnought or a dreadknight?

We don't have to think anything, we know it has armour 12.

Tod wrote:Do you think the hellbrute will have stats like a dreadnought or a dreadknight?

Here you go:

Hellbrute



120pts base

Type: Walker
Rules: Rampage

Armour: F12 S12 R10
WS4 BS4 S6 I4

Multi-Melta / Power Fist (with inbuilt combi-bolter); Because it is a Walker, it does not strike at I1.

Multi-Melta can be swapped for
Butcher Cannon, or
Twin Reaper Autocannons, or
Twin-linked Lascannon, or
Twin-linked Heavy Flamer.

Combi-Bolter can be swapped for Meltagun or Heavy Flamer.

Mark of Khorne: Rage USR
Mark of Nurgle: At the beginning of the turn, a D6 result of 5+ restores a Hull Point, OR can repair a immobilised / weapon destroyed.
Mark of Slaanesh: Sonic Scream (offensive & defensive grenades)
Mark of Tzeench: Flame weapons (if equipped) gain +1 strength and -1 AP (AP4 becomes AP3, etc)