6th Edition Box Set Discussion - preorder info Aug 24

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**nos**

hal9000 wrote:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/08/breaking-40k-dark-vengeance-prices.html
PRICES ARE OUT!

Sweet jesus! Thank you!

**FirePainter**

Silly work blocks not letting me see bols. I am disappoint...Vengeance will come!!!!

**WarOne**

107 USD starter deluxe, 99 USD normal starter

**Kroothawk**

mikhaila wrote:Confirmed the Sep. 1st date with my rep just now. (...)
Cost in the US is 99.99 for the basic set available after Sept 7th.
The first run will be 108.00 and contain a limited edition Dark Angels interegator chaplain.

Kroothawk wrote:
REDEATH over at Warseer wrote:60010199006 40-15-60 Warhammer 40,000: Dark Vengeance (English) - Special Edition 49 Fig Box, Rulepack, Dice, Measures, Templates 1-Sep-12 $107.00 USD $128.00 CAD

70100181219 BL862 Dark Vengeance: The Novel (Nth America) 126 page hardback novel 1-Sep-12 $19.99 USD $22.50 CAD

70680181034 BL856 The Acsension of Balthazar (Nth America) Double pack Audio CD 1-Sep-12 $21.99 $25.00

60010199007 40-01-60 Warhammer 40,000: Dark Vengeance (English) 48 Fig Box, Rulepack, Dice, Measures, Templates 8-Sep-12 $99.00 USD $119.00 CAD

99230199006 Dark Vengeance Figure Case 1 Figure Case with Custom Cut Foam 1-Sep-12 $66.00 USD $79.00 CAD

There is a limited edition stater set release!!!

It comes out 1 week early; It will start shipping on Monday, August 27th
Exclusive to the limited edition is a plastic Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
It has a hard street date of September 1st.

The Dark Vengeance starter set will be available for order starting Tuesday, September 4th
This does not have a hard street date.

hal9000 wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/08/breaking-40k-dark-vengeance-prices.html
PRICES ARE OUT!

Good to know that BOLS finally had the time to read Dakka and Warseer

Remember: If BOLS doesn't quote sources, it is 97% taken from Warseer or Dakka.

**H.B.M.C.**

And it's 99% a week or two after everyone else knows.

**filbert**

So nearly £65 for a starter set? Assuming the UK prices are broadly in line with the US ones?

**Griever**

Wow $100 is pretty damn cheap for what that has. I can get two for $150.

feth, they're pulling me back in....

**baneofmorgoth**

That Helbrute looks astounding!! MUST HAVE THOSE CHOSEN. That Chaplain is pretty damn awesome.

**Phragonist**

what does a butcher cannon do? My googlefu needs work, I can't find its stats anywhere

**daedalus-templarius**

Omg give me that chaos set!

**kronk**

Phragonist wrote:
what does a butcher cannon do? My googlefu needs work, I can't find its stats anywhere

It's a new weapon. Check out the Decimator pdf

**Gravity**

Butcher Cannon here:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=239603

**Skinless2**

Well now I have to find someone who wants to trade their chaos models for the DA when I get my box.

why do I get the "It will be a cold day in hell before that happens" vibe?

**Vitruvian XVII**

filbert wrote:
So nearly £65 for a starter set? Assuming the UK prices are broadly in line with the US ones?

Supposed to be £65, and £70 for the limited edition....

**Gravity**

Same here, need to trade those DA models. Anyone?

**Brother SRM**

There've been conflicting rumors that the Chaplain is limited edition to just the box set, or that he'll be released later in his own blister with the DA release. Has anyone reputable chimed in on this? I might not have the scratch to get a box for myself and split a second box at release, but I'd like to get the Chappy if I can.

**lord_blackfang**

Brother SRM wrote:
There've been conflicting rumors that the Chaplain is limited edition to just the box set, or that he'll be released later in his own blister with the DA release. Has anyone reputable chimed in on this? I might not have the scratch to get a box for myself and split a second box at release, but I'd like to get the Chappy if I can.

WD says he's exclusive. Like, in the first post.

**Kanluwen**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
There've been conflicting rumors that the Chaplain is limited edition to just the box set, or that he'll be released later in his own blister with the DA release. Has anyone reputable chimed in on this? I might not have the scratch to get a box for myself and split a second box at release, but I'd like to get the Chappy if I can.

WD says he's exclusive. Like, in the first post.

WD says he's "limited edition".

Which, for a plastic miniature, makes no sense.

**Brother SRM**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
There've been conflicting rumors that the Chaplain is limited edition to just the box set, or that he'll be released later in his own blister with the DA release. Has anyone reputable chimed in on this? I might not have the scratch to get a box for myself and split a second box at release, but I'd like to get the Chappy if I can.

WD says he's exclusive. Like, in the first post.

It says "Limited Edition" over his model, so I guess that does answer my question; I've just heard some conflicting reports and I'd like to know. Also, I would hope that GW's first foray into plastic clamshell characters for 40k wouldn't be limited to 3000 figures, as that really bites.

**Synister_Intent**

Well I guess it is official, lol, even after all the leaked pictures, AoBR is no longer available on GWs website.

EDIT- Well sort of, you can search for it and its there but there is no longer a tab for it under the Warhammer 40k heading.

**BladeWalker**

No hurry to get this for me, but good to see it coming out and paving the way for CSM... probably grab it after the first of the year when my wallet recovers from Chaos and Christmas!

**lord_blackfang**

Kanluwen wrote:

WD says he's "limited edition".

Which, for a plastic miniature, makes no sense.

Let me remind you there were two single-model sprues released for AoBR, except they were free with WD.

If you're thinking of mold costs, it's hardly an issue. They put the limited edition model on the starter set mold and plug that area when they don't want to cast him any more.

**AegisGrimm**

I really hate to be "one of those guys", but why the hell would you ever make a plastic model Limited Edition in the first place, after the cost of design and the mold manufacture for a limited run figure?

But the again, the question of why every single of these boxed sets sold during 6e doesn't contain the Interrogator Chaplain is right up there with why they haven't been making and selling bunches of copies of Space Hulk for the last several years.

**Red Corsair**

aka_mythos wrote:
brentyboi wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
...I have seen nothing in the rumors to suggest it will be BS4..... The current trend is Demonic possession of vehicles reduces their BS to 3 so I really don't think the flyer or hellbrute or the other engines will be very accurate to compensate for that frightening amount of fire power.

Yes, but damonic possesion is virtually useless in the new rules as glancing hits aren't ignored 2/3 of the time. They just remove a hull point. IMO unless daemonic possesion gets better or cheaper the -1BS isnt viable when compared to boggo exta armour.
The hellbrute still has a chaos space marine at its heart so thats justifiably why it has BS4... as opposed to normal daemonic possession that replaces a vehicles crew. Next I'm pretty sure the rumor was that Daemonic possession also conveys the "It will not die" USR,,, regenerating hull points.

Thanks for those who clarified this. I thought I saw it as well but some of these rumors are all mixed up. This is an interesting take, in the segment posted it didn't actually list the hellbrute as being demonically possessed. I just assumed given the way that new model looks. I would assume as well that you can still purchase DP and it will give ignores shaken/stunned and a 5++ hopefully. I would also assume that it still lowers the BS to 3 upon purchasing it, like the old version simply because I doubt they will change the defiler to BS4. Just my assumptions but this will seriously tone down the various demon engines shooting prowess quite a bit if they are all BS3 if possessed. Otherwise butcher canons are going to replace psybolt as the new cheese, as an old school player I'd rather avoid the bandwagon stigma from OP rules.

**alarmingrick**

So, no new terrain?

**thenoobbomb**

I dont like how the SM are chapter specific.
Not cool.

\Although the models are nice.

**CrashCanuck**

Red Corsair wrote:
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Thanks for those who clarified this. I thought I saw it as well but some of these rumors are all mixed up. This is an interesting take, in the segment posted it didn't actually list the hellbrute as being demonically possessed. I just assumed given the way that new model looks. I would assume as well that you can still purchase DP and it will give ignores shaken/stunned and a 5++ hopefully. I would also assume that it still lowers the BS to 3 upon purchasing it, like the old version simply because I doubt they will change the defiler to BS4. Just my assumptions but this will seriously tone down the various demon engines shooting prowess quite a bit if they are all BS3 if possessed. Otherwise butcher canons are going to replace psybolt as the new cheese, as an old school player I'd rather avoid the bandwagon stigma from OP rules.

I imagine the Hellbrute might be more like a Chaos Dreadnought that has contracted some form of the Oblitorator virus

**Brother SRM**

alarmingrick wrote:
So, no new terrain?

Nope, we haven't gotten terrain in a starter since 4th edition 40k.

**Bloodwin**

I would expect the limited edition character to be in the 'black box' at launch then for them to do a regular looking box with 'normal' artwork and no chaplain. I'd assume the chaplain would then be available separately for the usual £9. So the limited edition might seem light a 'bargain' in a few months. I'm looking forward to future characters for 40k as the Fantasy ones have been excellent so far.

**lord_blackfang**

The Chaplain is not only LE but also exclusive, so no.