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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 21:34:12
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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actually i really like wood... almost all my furniture is unpainted and un sealed pine wood... i love the look of IKEA furniture it has all these nice looking knotholes and such things...
wooden´t it be good to have an all wooden hut? whut aka wo(oden)hut
and well i know where you are coming from with ading a metal roof to the hut... i grant you it could be looking a bit too similar... walls and roof all alike... but i take it you would come up with a different look for the roof compared too walls... also... you could do two roofs
i wood like to see that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 21:34:29
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think that corrugated card is a bit overscaled, try smaller grooves.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 21:50:22
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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I see. I shall have to have a think and a look to see what I have laying about...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:05:27
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Yellin' Yoof
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Are you going to coat the cardboard in something like watered pva glue? It might reinforce it a little and make it look more like corrugated iron and less like cardboard.
Although presumably your already on step a head of me...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:17:08
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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That comp. you guys are in is amazing, and producing some amazing work, but I am sorry this is the star of the show. The effort to make what you have is staggering, and it looks absolutely brilliant. This shows what scratch building is really about, making something WAY better than you could buy, from stuff others through out.
OMG your a Womble...... Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and BTW hunt through some boxes of chocolates, I got a good sized sheet of corrugated that's almost plastic in nature, from a box of choc's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:20:38
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Two steps, technically... it was coated with PVA...
Anyway, I am thinking about alternatives:
Can't do typical straw thatch, as the roof isn't angled enough.
I've tried to shave twigs out of sprue for a twig-like thatch, but that didn't really work.
I could do more planks, but is that too similar to the walls / not be original enough?
I could do slate/shingles from card, but they wouldn't be very textured.
I could do a overgrown/lawn/plant/garden -type roof from the shaving of the planks (I'm going to be using some of these for plant life about the hut anyway, but have enough to cover a partially collapsed roof).
Any thoughts or ideas from out there? Automatically Appended Next Post: Camkierhi wrote:
Oh and BTW hunt through some boxes of chocolates, I got a good sized sheet of corrugated that's almost plastic in nature, from a box of choc's.
Thanks Cam.
Oh, that is a good call. Don't think we have any in the house though
But maybe there is some I don't know about...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/24 23:22:51
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:25:05
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I think that the corrugated iron roof is the best choice for this kind of Hut, if not You could use a few planks like the walls, some corrugated metal, some kind of foliage/straw and some pieces of scrap metal all at once in very ORKY style
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:25:32
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Kustom force field roof. Or you could. A stretched leather roof made from squiggoth hide.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:26:08
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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And Hide of course
That what was missing, thanks Theo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0004/07/24 23:34:25
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Only thing I can think of against a corrugated roof is that it fixes it in modern/future. Can't really use it for fantasy. Or am I wrong? i'm not sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:35:28
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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I'm trying to keep the hut as universal as possible (game-wise, I can't think of a tabletop game that you couldn't use a wooden hut in) as per the competition rules. Hence no high-tech or futuristic materials in the hut.
Also trying to limit myself to scrap modelling materials where possible (and almost exclusively sprue). But an exception for the roof may have to be made.
Animal skin is a good idea... although what I could make it out of...hmm...
Card, with shavings stuck on and cut short to look like fur...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:37:14
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Animal skin can be leather and leather is very smooth...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:37:15
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Camkierhi wrote:Only thing I can think of against a corrugated roof is that it fixes it in modern/future. Can't really use it for fantasy. Or am I wrong? i'm not sure.
I was assuming that as Fantasy had metal weapons and armour, that corrugated metal sheets would be possible... but I don't know.... Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, I do have the "leather" that I used for the leather seats in my WS... Don't know how much I have, and they weren't very big...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/24 23:38:50
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:42:38
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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you could always use tissue as a means to make a big clothed roof...
or even a board covered roof... but even me thinks that this might be too many boards...
maybe the currogated roof is not that bad as an idea after al... but if you do this... try to make overlapping pieces of the metal... thus it looks more ramshakle...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:51:13
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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You are right, I am probably off wack. Nothing wrong with corrugated.
BTW torn masking tape makes for effective cloth/hide looking material and with a coat of PVA is quite durable, I use it for my banners all the time.
If layered up It looks really effective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:56:45
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Ramshackle is the word.
I had a rummage, a minor panic when I couldn't find what I was looking for, another rummage and I've found:
One square of (on this scale, quite thick) woollen material that came with a hat a bought. It's not quite as big as the roof and, as I said, 4mm thick.
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One square of foam-backed leather-ish material, just like that I used for the Wave Serpent and ... AND, It's massive (relatively). I could cut an animal skin shape out of it easy then string it up stretched to the roof piece and give it a paint....
What do we think to that?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Camkierhi wrote:
BTW torn masking tape makes for effective cloth/hide looking material and with a coat of PVA is quite durable, I use it for my banners all the time.
Masking tape  Never thought of that. That's brilliant.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/24 23:58:46
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 00:06:01
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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For alternate corrugated card, have you tried the coffee cup holders? I think that would be more in scale and you can pick them up for free...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 01:23:01
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Dr H wrote:Ramshackle is the word.
I had a rummage, a minor panic when I couldn't find what I was looking for, another rummage and I've found:
One square of (on this scale, quite thick) woollen material that came with a hat a bought. It's not quite as big as the roof and, as I said, 4mm thick.
AND
One square of foam-backed leather-ish material, just like that I used for the Wave Serpent and ... AND, It's massive (relatively). I could cut an animal skin shape out of it easy then string it up stretched to the roof piece and give it a paint....
What do we think to that?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Camkierhi wrote:
BTW torn masking tape makes for effective cloth/hide looking material and with a coat of PVA is quite durable, I use it for my banners all the time.
Masking tape  Never thought of that. That's brilliant.
Also Kleenex type Tissues make a lovely canvas texture when soaked in a 50:50 PVA water mix. also they dry VERY hard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 11:26:22
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Thanks Guys, lots of good ideas for now and for the future. That's a serious looking "tent" there Galorn...
Keep it coming people.
I'm going to have a look at this animal hide idea and will get back to you later.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 12:39:38
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Could lays do patchwork hide from orks that tried to take over the leadership roll.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 12:49:29
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah patchwork, or look at Galorn's recent pattern
Sandpaper also works
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 13:11:37
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Thanks Theo. That sounds tricky to do. Good idea though.
Ahh, metal patchwork. That's relatively simple, re-adds the metal to add variation to texture, replaces the rivets that were lost with the corrugated steel and can be made with scrap modelling material... I'll give that a go first and see how it looks. Ta muchly Dave.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 15:10:17
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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What do we think about the size of these sheets?
Should they be smaller?
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 15:23:50
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Add some rivets there for a riveting good ol time, and you be painting like a campion. Hey whats with the big "paws"! keep working.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 15:29:30
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Oh yeah, there will be rivets. Once I've got the arrangement right with those sheets (some aren't sitting flat enough).
But are these sheets big enough or too big?
They all are about the right size to sit across from one beam to another in the roof frame, so technically are the correct size, but do they "look" right?
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 16:01:18
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looking epic mate! I'm going to get cracking on with mine tonight, serious progress will be made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 16:23:44
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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They are looking great, the only thing I would say is to randomise the size a bit more, maybe like you say some a bit smaller. Also (totally a personal suggestion) I usually make one or two look like they are panels from enemy vehicles. So not always just flat sheets. A couple small strips of card running across a panel makes it look like a piece from a Rhino.
Like I say though it looks good as is. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh also maybe mostly metal panels with a panel of hide here or there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 16:33:19
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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^^ what Cam said!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 17:02:15
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Get to it Casey. Cool. Good suggestions Cam. I've rearranged them to sit better and glued them together. They are slightly differing in shape and size (the rear right one is much smaller, but yeah, maybe a little too regular). I can definitely add more details to them, Nothing too recognisable though to keep it available for any game system's look, but a raised edge here, a something there... I'll look into it. Also one of the pieces had an embossed "7" that I thought I'd turn into a feature. Also added some rust damage to the broken corner and some examples of riveting (these aren't stuck down yet, I'll do the detailing before I do that). The exposed wood of the roof will receive some damage as well, it won't stay like that.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/25 19:52:26
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Drill a hole, then shove a grot in it to plug the leak
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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