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So it is that one. I've downloaded it but wasn't 100% sure if it was the latest & greatest or if there was something else hiding somewhere.

Yay AV13 and two firepoints.

 pretre wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:
Is the current Repressor downloadable from the Forgeworld site? I've seen multiple conflicting versions circulating around the web....

Google is your friend:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/r/RepressorFAQversion1P.pdf

So is Forgeworld: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/fwDownloads

4th one down on the left.

I just want sisters to be easyer to buy.

Solid, that's what we've all been wanting since 1997.

Indeed. Hopefully, the long-rumored plastic Sisters will resolve that, but their reality remains to be seen.

The majority of metal SoB are unhelmeted it'll be interesting to see if the plastic minis continue that or if GW will give the kit enough helmets.

That's another thing. If I haven't mentioned it already, I'd love more Sabbat helms. I enjoy painting them, but they're kinda scarce in the current range.

 aka_mythos wrote:
The majority of metal SoB are unhelmeted it'll be interesting to see if the plastic minis continue that or if GW will give the kit enough helmets.

I think we'll see more helmets, sure. The Immolator pilot, one of our few plastics, gets the choice of a helmet or a bare head. Don't know if it'll be enough for a whole squad, though. Sisters seem to have thing about not wearing helmets. But that could be phased out, of course.

Oh, gods, yes. More helmets! I'm trying to build a Thousand Sons army using helmeted SoB as rubrics and I've still only managed to get one squad after two years.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
I don't think the Sisters should get proper field mechanics. The Rhino chassis is apparently easy to keep running in the field - as shown by the Repair special rule - so the focus should be on keeping them in working order between visits to the tech priests.

On the subject of Rhinos, one of my additions would be a command pulpit, allowing a Rhino to be upgraded with an additional transport slot and fire point, so that it can carry a ten woman squad plus an IC.

I don't know where you could put such a thing on our Rhino kit though.

On the subject of wish listing, why not simply say a Rhino can transport 12 sisters?
It can transport 10 Space Marines, who are 8' tall with bulky SM power armour while Sisters are 6' at best with a more 'slim line'* power armour.
This solves the IC transport problem and also allows a little more differentiation is SoB squad sizes compared to other imperial forces.

* Trademark name for SoB armour, slim line fit for that better figure

My thought re the Maintaince "issue" - although the Tech Priest in this story was awesome

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/547273.page

Elites Apparatus Guardianus 50pts
The Adepta Sororitas maintain a body of those sanctified and pure of heart to care for the powerful and arcane machinery at their disposal them. Years of training go towards achieving this respected position and aspirants must learn how to divine the runes of engineering, memorise the liturgy of maintenance and constantly study the routines of service. It is a position of great honour to care for this sacred technology and the Sororitas were granted this concession from the Adeptus Mechancius following the Icara Crusade. Apparatus gaurdianus are seldom risked din battle for they are invaluable in not merely maintaining the Orders weaponry and vehicles but passing that knowledge to their aspirants.

WS BS S T W I A LD Save
4 4 3 4 1 3 1 9 2+ / 6+ Invulnerable
Composition: 1 Apparatus Gaurdianus,
Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear: Artificer Armour, Boltgun, Bolt pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Servo-Arm
Special Rules: Acts of Faith, Blessing of the Omnissiah, Command the Machine Spirits in His name, Shield of Faith
Upgrade servo-arm to a servo-harness 25pts
May replace her boltgun and/or bolt pistol with
Chainsword free
Power axe, Power sword, Power maul, combi-flamer, combi-melta or plasma 10pts
Heavy Flamer 20pts
Blessing of the Omnissiah: In each of your shooting phases, instead of firing his weapons, A Apparatus Guardianus may choose to repair a single vehicle that she is in base contact with or embarked on. To repair a vehicle, roll a D6 and apply the following modifiers where applicable:
Each Aspirant in her unit +1 The Apparatus Guardianus has a servo-harness +1

If the result is 5 or more, you may restore a Hull Point lost earlier in the battle, or repair a Weapon Destroyed or
Immobilised Result suffered earlier in the battle; this is effective immediately.

Command the Machine Spirits in His name: This Act of Faith is used in the Shooting phase. If successful, the
Apparatus Guardianus may re-roll her repair roll if she chooses but must accept the second result.

Aspirant Squad 10pts
Unlike the Astartes, the Sororitas do not send those they choose to learn the arcane art of technomancy to the metal
worlds of the Mechanicus, but are allowed by ancient treaty to pass on their knowledge within their orders. Aspirants are
few in number and seldom risked in battle if it can be avoided.
WS BS S T W I A LD Save
3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ / 6+ Invulnerable
Composition: 1 Aspirant,
Unit Type: Infantry
Wargear:Bolt pistol, Carapace Armour, Frag and Krak Grenades

Special Rules: Acts of Faith, Shield of Faith
Include up to four additional Aspirants at 10pts per model
One Aspirant may replace her bolt pistol with a Meltagun 10pts

Dedicated Transport: The squad can select any dedicated transport except the Aquila Lander
You can take one Aspirant Squad for every Apparatus Guardianus you have included in your army. Units of Aspirants Squads do not themselves take up an Elite choice

 aka_mythos wrote:
I guess the wishlisting thread isn't about wishlisting.

I've acknowledge the established fluff may say otherwise, but I'm throwing out there a wishful idea.

Oh it can be about wishlisting anyways, but it doesn't mean we all agree.

For example, the fluff says we get a Living Saint maybe every thousand years, but I want to be able to see the option for generic living saint builds in every army, but others may disagree.


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 Desteele wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
I don't think the Sisters should get proper field mechanics. The Rhino chassis is apparently easy to keep running in the field - as shown by the Repair special rule - so the focus should be on keeping them in working order between visits to the tech priests.

On the subject of Rhinos, one of my additions would be a command pulpit, allowing a Rhino to be upgraded with an additional transport slot and fire point, so that it can carry a ten woman squad plus an IC.

I don't know where you could put such a thing on our Rhino kit though.

On the subject of wish listing, why not simply say a Rhino can transport 12 sisters?
It can transport 10 Space Marines, who are 8' tall with bulky SM power armour while Sisters are 6' at best with a more 'slim line'* power armour.
This solves the IC transport problem and also allows a little more differentiation is SoB squad sizes compared to other imperial forces.

* Trademark name for SoB armour, slim line fit for that better figure

The flipside is that it also only holds 10 Inquisitorial Henchmen. Apparently someone decided that only ten models ever.

Maybe if there was a fluff bit that explained that Sisters have refit the inside of the vehicle to handle 12 passengers or something.

In which case our Immolator should hold more too since we keep the ammo on the outside unlike the Razorback.

There are only 10 seatbelts in the back of a rhino.

Buckle up, it's the LAW!

Slipped a little extra link into my signature about why I think Sisters have hope yet. Just so I don't have to keep repeating myself.

Desteele wrote:It can transport 10 Space Marines, who are 8' tall [...]

7' in GW's fluff.

Sorry, reflex. *ducks*

Nevelon wrote:There are only 10 seatbelts in the back of a rhino.
Buckle up, it's the LAW!

7 feet tall? Ok, maybe in fluff, but not in any pictures I've seen -- except maybe Blanches' once you count the heels....

Space Marines are seven to seven-and-a-half feet, not Sisters.

Well, some of them from certain Amazonian planets might be.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Slipped a little extra link into my signature about why I think Sisters have hope yet.

A good read, you've laid out all of the evidence nicely, and put forward a strong argument. Have an exalt.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Slipped a little extra link into my signature about why I think Sisters have hope yet.

A good read, you've laid out all of the evidence nicely, and put forward a strong argument. Have an exalt.

Spoiler:

Also, the person who wrote that /tg/ post now wishes that they'd proofread it before posting it. :-/

Thanks! Honestly I like to think I'm a fairly reasonable individual so I was hoping it laid things out nice and neat and made a strong point, so I'm of course glad that it did.

SisterSydney wrote:7 feet tall? Ok, maybe in fluff, but not in any pictures I've seen -- except maybe Blanches' once you count the heels....

Jes Goodwyn drew a lifesize sketch for the Inquisitor RPG once:

Each square is 1x1 inch.

A lot of novel authors and freelance artists tend to exaggerate their sizes to make them more EPIC because obviously bigger = better to a lot of people, and over the years this has led to a sort of "size creep" where we now supposedly have tales with Marines above the ten feet mark (Soul Drinkers novels). Jes joked on the GW Podcast that "they seem to get bigger with every book".

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I didn't catch any real error with how it reads, what am I missing?

"what shall you next lie be?"

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I didn't catch any real error with how it reads, what am I missing?

"what will you next lie be?"

Ah. It's one of those errors my brain just skimmed past. Guess I'm used to /tg/'s normal quality of posting now.

One thing I'd like is either a unit or at least fluff that describes how Sisters get from point A in space to point B on the ground.

There might be a few lines somewhere in the entirety of the 40k fiction, but I think it gives the opportunity for a new unit, some sort of lander craft that can be used in hot drops, as it were.

I imagine they use Valkyries, the Dominica-pattern drop-pod, and those bulk-lifter/transports that I can't remember the name of that were mentioned in the Faith & Fire novels.

ETA: Bah to your ninja-edit.... well, we might see the Dominica moved into the Codex as a Deep Strike option. Might also see a Valkyrie (or some variant thereof) make an appearance.

I'd love to see Sisters in deep striking Valkyries as a real thing that can be done on tabletop.

Playing some Wagner, obviously.

 Melissia wrote:
One thing I'd like is either a unit or at least fluff that describes how Sisters get from point A in space to point B on the ground.

There might be a few lines somewhere in the entirety of the 40k fiction, but I think it gives the opportunity for a new unit, some sort of lander craft that can be used in hot drops, as it were.

Hot drops are the Space Marines' thing. The Sisters should be like the Guard and use regular drop ships. They should not get Thunderhawks.

 AlexHolker wrote:
Hot drops are the Space Marines' thing. The Sisters should be like the Guard

So, like Elysians, who do hot drops via Valkyries... exactly like my posts described?

Or, to be more blunt, no, hot drops aren't entirely the Space Marines' thing. Besides, the Space Marine codex has already ripped off every other codex anyway as it is, you have the least to complain about when it comes to ripping things off.

Why wouldn't Repentia hot-drop, if given the option?

Oh, hmm... that would solve many of the problems with getting the Repentia into CC right there. Give them a Dominica-pattern drop-pod as a DT.

Drop them onto the opponent's back-field, deploy out the back door, or into the mid-field to take advantage of cover, deploy, Fleet, assault, and get to the choppy time.

 Melissia wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
Hot drops are the Space Marines' thing. The Sisters should be like the Guard

So, like Elysians?

Not unless you want the Sisters to lose their heavy armour and their tanks. Elysian air drop capability just isn't good enough for anyone else.

 AlexHolker wrote:
Not unless you want the Sisters to lose their heavy armour and their tanks.

Just like Marines lose theirs in an all drop pod army; your "point", such as it is, gives me nothing but apathy.

Besides, Sisters don't really HAVE heavy armour at the moment. The heaviest thing we have is a rhino variant. In general, the strengths of the Sisters army have usually been in their infantry.

.. it better be, we don't have much else. We've got a couple options with AV13 on the front, which is really not at all impressive in the current meta.

Though, if they provided one or two heavier tanks, something akin to a Leman Russ or a Predator... and one or two Deep Strike options.... and the Frateris Mob that we were talking about up-thread, it would provide the army with some options to customize the build and play-style.

You could, for example, have a Minor Order that, for whatever reason, has access to several armored vehicles, which of course means (due to points limits) you have fewer infantry models on the table. Or you have one that specializes in air-drops (maybe their Mission is located on planets with lots of aerial cities or something) and has more drop-pods, aeronautic vehicles, etc. than others.

...and then you have one that doesn't have much in the way of armor or vehicles, but it's got a fethload of people and massive congregations of the faithful, so you bury the enemy under hordes of bodies and Eviscerators.