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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 05:15:48
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Here's a battle report taken today of my sisters against dark eldars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpf3LFcpk94&list=UUAkWv-dNUGKzG3CksxeKjDw&spfreload=10%20Message%3A%20Unexpected%20end%20of%20input%20(url%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dbpf3LFcpk94%26list%3DUUAkWv-dNUGKzG3CksxeKjDw)
It is filmed and commented by the dark eldar player. Turn count is a little off (turn 4 was actually turn 3 etc) but otherwise it's a good recap of how the game went.
He's not used to play against TAC lists (the guy he plays most often always fields a Trans C'Than) and I think he usually plays mostly purge the alien so he had a hard time shifting into getting the objectives.
Was still a very fun game.. and I definitely need to stop juggling my tape measure :O
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 05:33:32
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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How was you using a Land Raider with Sisters. I just wanted to point out they no longer have one in the army. You are playing against a new codex with either a non legal army or an outdated codex. I see you was running Inquisition allies but perfect timing should have no effect on the exorcist tank as they are not a unit and the ic cannot join a unit with a vehicle only that is not a transport. I could be wrong but pretty sure that is a mistake.
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Some Must Be Told. Others Must Be Shown.
Blood Angels- 15000
Dark Angels-7800
Sisters of Battle- 5000
Space Wolves- 5000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 05:53:21
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Hey Fireraven,
To clarify:
Land raider is a dedicated transport purchased for the death cult + crusader squad.
This is a small ally squad, with Coteaz as HQ, and since the canoness and the priests are independant characters they can join them during deployment inside the tank.
Exorcist tank is absolutely a unit. Even fortifications purchased for your army are considered units in 7th edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 06:00:51
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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U need to reread BRB 7th edition page 166 2nd line.( Special rules on Independent Characters) They cannot join units that contain vehicles or monstrous Creatures. I went and looked it up because I thought it was sketchy. So you absolutely cannot it is prohibited in the rules.
And perfect Timing power effects the psyker and the unit he is with yes. But since it cannot even join the vehicle unit it is a mute point. I played sisters a lot and play against them as well that was the first time i ever seen it that is why it stuck out to me.
If it was allowed I would have learn something new. But with that is exorcists are good but not that good. There only weakness is the line of sight and cover save things. but like I have stated and is clearly in the rules that was a game won by not understanding on his part of the rules. Only reason I noticed it is the fact I do play sisters and that battle would have been way different with out that particular over sight.
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Some Must Be Told. Others Must Be Shown.
Blood Angels- 15000
Dark Angels-7800
Sisters of Battle- 5000
Space Wolves- 5000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 06:26:25
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Hey,
Page 166 has nothing to do with what was going on.
The land raider is a completely separate unit then the crusader/dealth cult squad. The IC are joining the crusaders and assassins and page 127 not only allows this, but also allows you to embark upon battle brother transports.
You are absolutely right on perfect timing however. I usually play it when I have Coteaz in a squad of jokaeros and plasmacannon servitors so have never had a reason to cast it on something else. I wrongfully assmed it could be used like prescience.The only thing it had an impact on however was the farseer death in the end, so that unit should definitely still be alive. The other two attempts I tried to cast it he denied it by rolling four and five 6s which was fairly crazy on a deny the witch with 7 or 8 dices at most.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 06:34:05
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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I noticed that you was using inquisition allies after I posted that is why I edited it while I was watching. But to say it had no game effect it absolutely effected the game it made him change his play style after you did it.( examples deny the witch on it and so on effected the way he moved around the board because Exorcists is all about controlling the board.) I never said anything about the cannoness joining them I knew that was allowed. SIsters are battle brothers with all IoM now so it would have been perfectly fine to see them with a space wolf allies and using drop pods. Page 122 has no effect over anything I said because that was never a play or rule in question. And You said yes you could do it at the start. that is why I cited a page # for you to see for yourself.
Other then that good video nice army. I do not use packs on my sisters I hate how they look. Nor do I use Repressor's yet. Mainly because I do not see the point investment nor the monetary investment on them. Since I all ready have 4 Immolators and 2 Rhino's all ready built for them. Plus it is less rules I need to remember or my opponent.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/10/19 06:45:08
Some Must Be Told. Others Must Be Shown.
Blood Angels- 15000
Dark Angels-7800
Sisters of Battle- 5000
Space Wolves- 5000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 14:13:55
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Inspired by this post of Nevelon's, I'm wondering if sticking Hunter-Killer Missiles on every vehicle might actually be a good idea. Given that everything else in our arsenal shoots at most 48", the chance to do a first-time anti-tank alpha strike across the length of the board might be worth adding 10 points to every vehicle in the army. "Hahaha, we rolled Hammer & Anvil, now my Tau gunline can sit back at long range and [whooshing sounds] holy feth! [things explode]"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 18:17:24
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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SisterSydney wrote:Inspired by this post of Nevelon's, I'm wondering if sticking Hunter-Killer Missiles on every vehicle might actually be a good idea. Given that everything else in our arsenal shoots at most 48", the chance to do a first-time anti-tank alpha strike across the length of the board might be worth adding 10 points to every vehicle in the army. "Hahaha, we rolled Hammer & Anvil, now my Tau gunline can sit back at long range and [whooshing sounds] holy feth! [things explode]"
Hmm... I can see them working sometimes, but I just find it difficult to swallow 10pts each for a 1 shot S8 missile with only a 2/3 chance of hitting. I'm sure it has potential and could do well, but I think I'd rather spend points elsewhere and make my way up the board quickly. Terrain density will also play a big part in making that effective or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 11:28:13
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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So, for a tournament coming up, I am going to run a penitent engine and repentia heavy list. As I was looking through the codex, I saw the Repentant Host Formation. I am still a little shaky on the 7ed rules for force org, formations, etc.
If I run this formation, can I run a separate CAD of sisters with it? What I am getting at, is if I run this and then take a CAD of sisters with HQ, 2 Troops, could I then start fielding exorcists legally?
The other option I was thinking was to just go completely silly, and take a SM CAD with this formation. This would include a MoF, a few techmarines, and all the ironclads and venerables I can squeeze in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 13:42:25
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Slippery Ultramarine Scout Biker
Richmond, VA
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Green is Best! wrote:So, for a tournament coming up, I am going to run a penitent engine and repentia heavy list. As I was looking through the codex, I saw the Repentant Host Formation. I am still a little shaky on the 7ed rules for force org, formations, etc.
If I run this formation, can I run a separate CAD of sisters with it? What I am getting at, is if I run this and then take a CAD of sisters with HQ, 2 Troops, could I then start fielding exorcists legally?
The other option I was thinking was to just go completely silly, and take a SM CAD with this formation. This would include a MoF, a few techmarines, and all the ironclads and venerables I can squeeze in.
It's an Apocalypse formation. As far as I know, tournaments are not allowing these types of formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 14:10:46
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Oh well, it was worth a shot. I am still going to run it then, but in a more normal mode:
Uriah
Battle Sisters x 5 (MM, FL)
Battle Sisters x 5 (HB, FL)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
10x Repentia
10x Repentia
10x Repentia
3x Penitent Engines
3x Penitent Engines
2x Penitent Engines
Typing it out, it feels very spammy. But if anyone were to actually give me grief over running this list, I think I would smack them in the head and tell them to repent and beg the Emperor's forgiveness.
But, if they were to allow formations, I would still have a legal CAD to add to it, would I not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 14:27:33
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Slippery Ultramarine Scout Biker
Richmond, VA
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Green is Best! wrote:Oh well, it was worth a shot. I am still going to run it then, but in a more normal mode:
Uriah
Battle Sisters x 5 ( MM, FL)
Battle Sisters x 5 ( HB, FL)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
10x Repentia
10x Repentia
10x Repentia
3x Penitent Engines
3x Penitent Engines
2x Penitent Engines
Typing it out, it feels very spammy. But if anyone were to actually give me grief over running this list, I think I would smack them in the head and tell them to repent and beg the Emperor's forgiveness.
But, if they were to allow formations, I would still have a legal CAD to add to it, would I not?
Yes, this is legal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 16:36:05
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Take some pictures!
I played a game thursday against Orkdar / Eldork (whichever you prefer) and i ended up ramming 5 times in the game doing 3 hull points from the 5 attempts. I was hilarious. There's nothing like a rhino ramming a killa kan, dealing a hull point and then the emperor protecting the rhino from the Kan's counter ram attack. Fun was had by all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 16:39:28
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Green is Best! wrote:Oh well, it was worth a shot. I am still going to run it then, but in a more normal mode:
Uriah
Battle Sisters x 5 ( MM, FL)
Battle Sisters x 5 ( HB, FL)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
Dominion x 5 (Immolator w/ TL MM, 4 MGs)
10x Repentia
10x Repentia
10x Repentia
3x Penitent Engines
3x Penitent Engines
2x Penitent Engines
Typing it out, it feels very spammy. But if anyone were to actually give me grief over running this list, I think I would smack them in the head and tell them to repent and beg the Emperor's forgiveness.
But, if they were to allow formations, I would still have a legal CAD to add to it, would I not?
You need some transports for those 5 sister squads otherwise they are going to do nothing and die horribly. I'll be interested to hear how it works out though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 16:45:54
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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pretre wrote:
You need some transports for those 5 sister squads otherwise they are going to do nothing and die horribly. I'll be interested to hear how it works out though.
I was planning on leaving those sisters to camp out on backfield objectives, possibly even walking on from reserves. The only way I can free up points for the rides would be to drop a Dominion Squad. That actually might not be a bad idea. It would free up some points for some Ministorum Priests which would add to the fluffiness of the repentia theme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 16:47:29
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Green is Best! wrote: pretre wrote:
You need some transports for those 5 sister squads otherwise they are going to do nothing and die horribly. I'll be interested to hear how it works out though.
I was planning on leaving those sisters to camp out on backfield objectives, possibly even walking on from reserves. The only way I can free up points for the rides would be to drop a Dominion Squad. That actually might not be a bad idea. It would free up some points for some Ministorum Priests which would add to the fluffiness of the repentia theme.
Even on backfield, it doesn't take much to kill 5 T3 models. I'd rather not see you drop a dom, but you need rides. How many points is this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 19:13:28
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Looks like everything clocks in at 1850 exactly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 21:06:13
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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So quick question: Does anyone have the FW exorcist? If so do the missile launcher bits fit into one of the top holes on the immo/rhino chassis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 21:21:33
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Far as I can tell, yes. Was disappointed with the one I received off of eBay. The previous owner glued the turret on and the missile launcher was broken off in shipping.
Thankfully it'll glue back on, I just need to make time to do so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 01:09:49
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Although the real exorcist comes with all sorts of cool stuff to attach to the sides, hmmm...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 06:49:30
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Missionary On A Mission
Australia
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Mavnas wrote:Although the real exorcist comes with all sorts of cool stuff to attach to the sides, hmmm...
The plastic Immolator kit has various bits and pieces of Sororitas/Ecclesiarchy iconography to attach to the vehicle. It's pretty easy to convert an Immolator to an Exorcist with Typhoon Missile Launcher bitz from the Landspeeder kit (ebay it). Place the circular hatch piece with the Sororitas emblem on the forward roof hole rather than the rear (so the turret mount is at the rear of the vehicle instead of the front). Mount the Typhoon Missile Launcher on the Immolator Turret behind the chair where the gunner sits and you have an Exorcist. Probably work out to be cheaper than the Forgeword Exorcist if you're outside the UK, when you take into account exchange rates/shipping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 09:30:36
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Pious Palatine
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Pah, all of you people who don't embrace the obscene bling that is the organ missile launcher are heretics as far as I'm concerned and should be burnt accordingly.
D
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 10:09:51
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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GoonBandito wrote:Mavnas wrote:Although the real exorcist comes with all sorts of cool stuff to attach to the sides, hmmm...
The plastic Immolator kit has various bits and pieces of Sororitas/Ecclesiarchy iconography to attach to the vehicle. It's pretty easy to convert an Immolator to an Exorcist with Typhoon Missile Launcher bitz from the Landspeeder kit (ebay it). Place the circular hatch piece with the Sororitas emblem on the forward roof hole rather than the rear (so the turret mount is at the rear of the vehicle instead of the front). Mount the Typhoon Missile Launcher on the Immolator Turret behind the chair where the gunner sits and you have an Exorcist. Probably work out to be cheaper than the Forgeword Exorcist if you're outside the UK, when you take into account exchange rates/shipping.
Exactly what i've done with mine.
Magnetised the front hatch though so it's actually an Immo/Exo kit now... mainly run as Exo though as i only have 2 =P
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DA:80-S+G+M+B++I-Pw40k01++D+++A+++WD100R++T(T)DM+
Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 11:01:09
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Missionary On A Mission
Australia
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evildrcheese wrote:Pah, all of you people who don't embrace the obscene bling that is the organ missile launcher are heretics as far as I'm concerned and should be burnt accordingly.
D
In my defense, the bulk of my Sisters collection came from an ebay lot. Thats how my first Exorcist was done, so i wanted to keep them the same
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 12:17:25
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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evildrcheese wrote:Pah, all of you people who don't embrace the obscene bling that is the organ missile launcher are heretics as far as I'm concerned and should be burnt accordingly.
D
Haha I agree. I'm willing to spend the obscene amount of money and modelling headaches to get a killer organ - it's just so much more metal... both literally and figuratively.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 12:51:16
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Yeah... I do like metal. My main issue is it takes forever for me to paint vehicles (especially ornate ones) and my lists have been short of transports/exorcists as a result.
I guess I could just eBay some painted ones and play with those until I catch up. Automatically Appended Next Post: Er... so my point was dual or triple use Rhino/Immo/Exorcists would give me flexibility without needing to paint an ungodly number of vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 12:52:04
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Hallowed Canoness
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Yes, the FW Exorcist turret fits perfectly into a standard Immolator, Razorback or Predator turret ring.
Personally, I love combining the Exorcist top with the Deimos Rhino chassis and some extra bits from the Immolator sprue to create a weapon that is both Sisterly, looks like a relic, and is still a passable MLRS as opposed to something that looks like it should provide morale bonusses and free reforms.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 13:30:15
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Preacher of the Emperor
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I'm currently mulling over a 2000pt unbound list of 16 exorcists. If you space them an inch apart, they would take up the entire 6' edge of the table leaving no exposed rear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 14:39:51
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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deviantduck wrote:I'm currently mulling over a 2000pt unbound list of 16 exorcists. If you space them an inch apart, they would take up the entire 6' edge of the table leaving no exposed rear.
So, basically you just want to roll dice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 17:11:23
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Preacher of the Emperor
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It's how i would picture the front doorstep of any cathedral on any shrineworld.
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