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 Green is Best! wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:
Yay! My sisters arrived and my new army has begun! Total infantry model count stands at 92 (woooooh!!!!)

Welcome to the fold.

Now you too can know what it is like to feel the love of the Emperor..... AAAAAAAND the complete ignorance of Games Workshop.


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On a different note, I have lost 3 of the clear canopies for the immolators turret. I figured I would ask here first if anyone has some they are willing to part with. If you have some, PM me and we can work out a deal. I have a pretty large selection of 40K stuff, so I am sure we can come to an arrangement that makes us both happy.

Yanno, I'd designed some replacement canopies in cad to cast up, I should get back on that. There's a sample pic in my gallery somewhere.


So, ladies and gents, I'm thinking about starting back with 40k after a vacation since 5th. Have a ton of sisters and some BA. I'm still getting up to speed but my flgs is running a casual league starting in a couple weeks. It kicks off with killteam and 1500 pt lists. Should I still be trying to cram as many melta doms , immos, and exorcists into a list as I can?

 Zefig wrote:


So, ladies and gents, I'm thinking about starting back with 40k after a vacation since 5th. Have a ton of sisters and some BA. I'm still getting up to speed but my flgs is running a casual league starting in a couple weeks. It kicks off with killteam and 1500 pt lists. Should I still be trying to cram as many melta doms , immos, and exorcists into a list as I can?

The most competitive list I found with sisters involved some variation of
3 Exorcists
2 Dominions (4 MGs with Immolator)
Choose one of the below:
1 Dominion (same as above)
1 Dominion (4 flamers and rhino/repressor)
1 Serpahim squad (only if taking St. Celestine)

BSS - suit to taste usually MSU with rhinos/immolators OR two large blobs backed up with priests and Uriah

 Zefig wrote:
So, ladies and gents, I'm thinking about starting back with 40k after a vacation since 5th. Have a ton of sisters and some BA. I'm still getting up to speed but my flgs is running a casual league starting in a couple weeks. It kicks off with killteam and 1500 pt lists. Should I still be trying to cram as many melta doms , immos, and exorcists into a list as I can?

Welcome back! And yes, that's pretty much how it goes for competitive play. Avenger Strike Fighter and Retributors are not so bad either. Especially with BA allies.

Also my Celestine is copied from yours
Great Conversion!

Ermaemprah it is, that's awesome! Warm fuzzies all over.

The Avenger intrigues me...what are the rules for that in now? Anything easily accessible?

i'm still de-sprue-ing my avenger. i hope i get it done by LVO next month.

An avenger is a flying chimera with 2 lascannons and a beefier autocannon main gun for the price of a vindicare assassin..

 BlackTalos wrote:
From the sounds of it though, that sounds like pretty amazing board denial... I mean if the enemy "my opponent's closest unit" if on the very far left flank, i can see them not being too effective.
But "Flame and kill one, maybe two units, usually the ones my opponent doesn't care about since he's had 3 - 4 turns to move the good ones away"
If that's a 20" denial zone in the middle of the board, i can see purpose for it.
With 2 Units of PE (Or 3 like Green Tide), that's pretty much the whole board covered.. can't run from that

Well, it really depends on the opponent. My area is pretty heavy with Dark Eldar, CSM and IG. Against the Dark Eldar PE's are absolutely a joke. The only units I kill are ones that have been shot out of their transports. With CSM PE's can usually only get in range of their non-important troops while the more priority targets (bikers, spawn, juggerlords, heldrakes, the odd land raider) just flip the finger as they scoot away. Although there was one match where the PE's were able to shred a land raider on turn two, ah, the memories. And the IG, people usually bring tanks which usually just sort of spread out as the PE's approach meaning that they may be able to kill one, but a smart opponent will simply do a little kiting. Or there are priest-enhanced blobs, which can just tarpit PE's for pretty much the whole match.

I do believe that if you run three full squadrons of them then they can eventually corral and have a field day on the other side of the board, but that's almost 800 points for and there are definitely hard counters (hello Mr. Vindicator with your happy little cannon). Overall though, I feel that the biggest problem they suffer from is what almost all melee-centric units do: They're just too damn slow. I judge a unit's value by how killy they are versus their survivability balanced with their cost. As an open topped vehicle with rhino armor, they're not very survivable and will melt against dedicated AA, and because they're so slow it's going to take them forever to get across the board and actually get you returns on kills. Board control is nice especially once your opponent realizes how crushing they are in CC and tries to avoid that, but I'm just not sure that they're worth the cost considering how difficult it is to get them there and at 240 points for a full squad they're going to be one of the most expensive units in a Sister's list.

Which again, I'm sad for because I love the model and wish I could bring them to every game, but as of right now they're really just for casual fluff matches.

 Zefig wrote:
Ermaemprah it is, that's awesome! Warm fuzzies all over.

The Avenger intrigues me...what are the rules for that in now? Anything easily accessible?

This image is readily available:
http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/16/24/55/15/avenge11.jpg

But where it says "Can take 2 of the following", it's actually just 1 option.

 Green is Best! wrote:

 Zefig wrote:


So, ladies and gents, I'm thinking about starting back with 40k after a vacation since 5th. Have a ton of sisters and some BA. I'm still getting up to speed but my flgs is running a casual league starting in a couple weeks. It kicks off with killteam and 1500 pt lists. Should I still be trying to cram as many melta doms , immos, and exorcists into a list as I can?

The most competitive list I found with sisters involved some variation of
3 Exorcists
2 Dominions (4 MGs with Immolator)
Choose one of the below:
1 Dominion (same as above)
1 Dominion (4 flamers and rhino/repressor)
1 Serpahim squad (only if taking St. Celestine)

BSS - suit to taste usually MSU with rhinos/immolators OR two large blobs backed up with priests and Uriah

Yeah, mech is the best solution. I prefer putting my Doms in Repressors so they don't have to get out though.

confoo22 wrote:

Well, it really depends on the opponent. My area is pretty heavy with Dark Eldar, CSM and IG. Against the Dark Eldar PE's are absolutely a joke. The only units I kill are ones that have been shot out of their transports. With CSM PE's can usually only get in range of their non-important troops while the more priority targets (bikers, spawn, juggerlords, heldrakes, the odd land raider) just flip the finger as they scoot away. Although there was one match where the PE's were able to shred a land raider on turn two, ah, the memories. And the IG, people usually bring tanks which usually just sort of spread out as the PE's approach meaning that they may be able to kill one, but a smart opponent will simply do a little kiting. Or there are priest-enhanced blobs, which can just tarpit PE's for pretty much the whole match.

I do believe that if you run three full squadrons of them then they can eventually corral and have a field day on the other side of the board, but that's almost 800 points for and there are definitely hard counters (hello Mr. Vindicator with your happy little cannon). Overall though, I feel that the biggest problem they suffer from is what almost all melee-centric units do: They're just too damn slow. I judge a unit's value by how killy they are versus their survivability balanced with their cost. As an open topped vehicle with rhino armor, they're not very survivable and will melt against dedicated AA, and because they're so slow it's going to take them forever to get across the board and actually get you returns on kills. Board control is nice especially once your opponent realizes how crushing they are in CC and tries to avoid that, but I'm just not sure that they're worth the cost considering how difficult it is to get them there and at 240 points for a full squad they're going to be one of the most expensive units in a Sister's list.

Which again, I'm sad for because I love the model and wish I could bring them to every game, but as of right now they're really just for casual fluff matches.

I have heard rumor that Sisters are to get a hardback codex this year. That would be nice. What would be even more nice is if PEs became Monstrous Creatures (akin to Dreadknights) as opposed to being walkers. That would change things a bit. But, I don't know if even my faith in the Emperor is strong enough to make that happen.

 BlackTalos wrote:
On the Tactica side of things, i'm curious as to how most of you play the Repressor?

For those who have some/play some. Usually BSS? Dominions? Drive-by shootings? 4 meltas through ports+ hatch?

Also, looking at the latest version (IA2 2nd Edition), it seems Repressors can only carry 10, but i keep thinking 12 spaces, why?

My post might have been missed because it was the last one on the page?

I use repressors to replace both Immos and Rhinos and put everything in them. I only use an Immo if points require it.

Drive-by shootings mainly. The number of fire points is one of the best parts of the repressor.

Yeah, but do you get its worth on BSS, or would it only work well with Dominions?

And "if points require it": If it's a large Game or if you have spare points?

Yes, it is totally worth it for BSS as well.

Points-wise, I mean if my list is at 1870, I could drop a repressor to a rhino/immo to get to 1850.

Oh i missed "immo", i thought it was in reference to the repressor.

So you mean that you fully mechanise with repressors, dropping to an immo here or there? And on what squads, Doms?

I guess it's the "AV13 Wall" technique right?

I'm just considering a Rhino "upgrade" on some squads and was wondering if there were special notes to using the Repressor.

Also, you can rarely make use of all 6 firepoints, right? Unless you Tank shock to the middle of something?

Dumb question, but what book has the most up to date repressor rules?

Not a dumb question, I'm confused myself....

Hooray! We can be dumb together..... :-)

Imperial Armour 2.


I think.

 BlackTalos wrote:
Also, you can rarely make use of all 6 firepoints, right? Unless you Tank shock to the middle of something?

3 left side.
3 right side.
2 from the hatch.
8 total.

Which means every member of a 5 (wo)man squad can shoot at the same target every turn.

 Green is Best! wrote:
Dumb question, but what book has the most up to date repressor rules?

Imperial Armour Volume 2: Second Edition
Page 239

 deviantduck wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
Also, you can rarely make use of all 6 firepoints, right? Unless you Tank shock to the middle of something?

3 left side.
3 right side.
2 from the hatch.
8 total.

Which means every member of a 5 (wo)man squad can shoot at the same target every turn.

3 from one side and two from the hatch I get. But how can the two on the opposite side shoot at the same target (assuming you are not surrounded)?

Thanks,

 Green is Best! wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
Also, you can rarely make use of all 6 firepoints, right? Unless you Tank shock to the middle of something?

3 left side.
3 right side.
2 from the hatch.
8 total.

Which means every member of a 5 (wo)man squad can shoot at the same target every turn.

3 from one side and two from the hatch I get. But how can the two on the opposite side shoot at the same target (assuming you are not surrounded)?

Thanks,

Three plus two is five. So every member of a five man squad can shoot at the same target.

They probably can't. The sisters sitting on the wrong side of the tour bus will just have to be patient.

Unless it's a 5-strong squad, of course. Then the three most junior ranking sisters have to run from one side of the bus to the other every time they pass a new spot on the tour to shoot at with melta guns.

I was ninja'd by priestly ninja powers, but I'm keeping it.

That's why 5 girls in a repressor is so nice.

Because it gives 3 sisters a workout as they cruise around in style?

SISTER SUPERIOR: Target left!
SISTER KORIANDER: Oops!
SISTER RAVEN: Gak!
[they throw themselves to the other side of the Repressor and fire]
SUPERIOR: Target right!
KORIANDER: We were just....
RAVEN: Hurry!
[they throw themselves back]
SUPERIOR: Target widdershins!
KORIANDER: Wha -- ?
RAVEN: Okay, now you're just fething with us.
SUPERIOR: I beg your pardon?
RAVEN: Ma'am, now you're just fething with us, ma'am!
SUPERIOR: Much better. Yes, yes I am.

Hey fellow SOB players I have a quick question for you as I'm relatively new to 7th with all the different formations, Dataslates, etc. but can I field an Adepta Sororitas CAD with an Adeptus Arbites Storm Wing?

 Kilgore Trout 420 wrote:
Hey fellow SOB players I have a quick question for you as I'm relatively new to 7th with all the different formations, Dataslates, etc. but can I field an Adepta Sororitas CAD with an Adeptus Arbites Storm Wing?

Goodness I wish that was true

To answer you question yes you can have more the one detachment. So you can take the sob cad and a a Storm Wing formation.

I'm playing around with a sob cad and a Flesh Tearers 's detachment.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:

 Kilgore Trout 420 wrote:
Hey fellow SOB players I have a quick question for you as I'm relatively new to 7th with all the different formations, Dataslates, etc. but can I field an Adepta Sororitas CAD with an Adeptus Arbites Storm Wing?

Goodness I wish that was true

To answer you question yes you can have more the one detachment. So you can take the sob cad and a a Storm Wing formation.

I'm playing around with a sob cad and a Flesh Tearers 's detachment.

Awesome, thanks for the reply MrFlutterPie. I wanted a way to bring a Stormraven for my Battle Conclave without having to bring a mandatory Troop and HQ Allied Detachment.

So I was talking with an interesting source. Of course I will not believe it until its in my hands, but apparently:

"Sisters of Battle Codex is done, the models are in production, and it’s rumored as a Spring release"

Take that for what it is worth. I remain hopeful. New figs would be very cool

war wrote:
So I was talking with an interesting source. Of course I will not believe it until its in my hands, but apparently:

"Sisters of Battle Codex is done, the models are in production, and it’s rumored as a Spring release"

Take that for what it is worth. I remain hopeful. New figs would be very cool

Would be nice, but I already have a bunch of sisters of battle and I am not replacing them. I guess we will all be playing 'vintage' armies once that happens.