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That was weird, something must have gone wrong with the spoiler tag. fixed now though

Haha! The well looks very nice, I like the ornate styling.

Fully expecting my dwarf to fall down that also, if there is a rule for it!

Even if there isn't a rule for it, I will make it happen in my games

Here's another one of the leavers



Does anyone recall seeing a model for the Elf yet? I remember a really cool 3D render, but am pretty sure we haven't seen even a test model yet. I wonder why its been held back.


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A very simple and plain table, but I like it.

Yes that is nice, again fits the aesthetics of the other pieces we have seen very nicely.

Incidentally, that turntable they have spinning the miniatures and terrain pieces is rather cool!

Furniture rearranging is going to be a hassle in that dungeon, that table is a tad sturdy.

A throne and a one of the orks, really nicely painted.



Have to say I'm not that keen on the chair, the detail is great, but I'm just not a fan of the overall shape.

The work looks amazing though, really happy with him.

Remind me - what was the most recent expected shipping date given, please?

For those of you that thought the last table was a little sparse....



Slinky, the closing date for any orders to be included in the first phase of deliveries was the 28th Feb, that is the only official word from Gamezone that has anything todo with the launch date.

But, A guy on the youtube channel that produces all of these videos has been to visit the factory and took an educated guess that production should be finished around March-April. This was back in November though, so things may have changed.

Basically, we're all in the dark

The orc's pose looks a bit like he is expressing his displeasure with the invading adventurers through the medium of dance, but he certainly looks nicely detailed and I love the style.

Gorechild - wasn't there some commentary fairly recently that they were still expecting March-April? I will have the check the Lanzaros forum.

 Pacific wrote:
The orc's pose looks a bit like he is expressing his displeasure with the invading adventurers through the medium of dance, but he certainly looks nicely detailed and I love the style.

He is sloped onto a base by both feet with gum. I think the finished miniature will have him on one leg stepping forward.

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Gorechild - wasn't there some commentary fairly recently that they were still expecting March-April? I will have the check the Lanzaros forum.

I would add a couple of months to that.

Some new videos, didnt bother to link.

The resin used is heat resistant at least in a microwave. A model was placed in a microwave with a glass of water, for over a minute. The water boiled and the model didnt soften melt or lose detail.

A webcam chat in Spanish was also linked, no idea what they are saying.

Two more, a prototype for the freed prisoner and the snake pit.

That snakepit is extremely creepy, so I guess their design was a success!

Give me a quick, sudden death from a big spike or even a bottomless pit over falling into a pile of snakes and being bitten to death! Only thing coming out of that alive would be a honey badger.

Trouble with snake pits is that your victim has a softer landing and an armoured victim might not get adequately bitten, and can also kill a number of snakes by landing on them. You also have to feed the snakes a gblin or two. Last if you hear hissing from under the floor tread carefully.

Spikes dont have those problems.

The open sarcophagus with one of the removable inserts inside. I can't tell what it's meant to be though. ideas?

Interesting. I thought the inserts would be inside rather than atop the tomb. Perhaps someting was placed underneath to raise the piece.

The current insert looks like burial shrouds which is being haunted as the fabric is showing echoes of faces and claw marks.

The finalised version of the Barb, one of the spiders, and a hidden passage.




I love the spider, despite it missing 2 legs! I pledged for the additional pack of spiders as well as the ones that level 3 backers get so I was hoping they'd be good. Barb seems identical to previous ones as far as I can tell and the hidden passage seems straightforward enough, I like that it isn't just a flat token on the floor any more.

1. Barbarian
Excellent barbarian dont-mess-with-me face. That is what they changed it makes hi look a lot meaner.
Does he know the riddle of steel? Does he care?

2. "Spider"
Lots of companies do spiders, its easy to get decent spider models, nasty beetles on the other hand are rarer, and thususeful for gaming.
Its a nice model too, and fantasy beetles are known for their armour rather than toxins and webs, so this brings something different and looks the part with its heavy chitin and limbs.

"I want to file a bug report."
"Que? You mean a complaint."
"No Gamezone, a bug report, your spider isn't."

3. Secret Door
A bit crude but a serviceable secret door. That will come in handy for many many RPG sessions.

Some very cool designs there, I love the distinctive style they are going for with a lot of these miniatures, they definitely have their own flavour about them.

More spidery goodness



Must say I don't like either as much as the first spider, but they're still not bad. Smaller than I'd imagined though.




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Another (the last?) treasure chest.



It looks really fancy, I'd be extremely disappointed if it wasn't filled with all the coolest loot.

another skeleton.

Very nice - much more detailed than your average skeleton!

I wonder what the relative power vs. monsters will be in the game? If the heroes will be wading through enemies and one-shotting them or will it be several turns of back and forth?

Two more skellies

Pacific wrote:I wonder what the relative power vs. monsters will be in the game? If the heroes will be wading through enemies and one-shotting them or will it be several turns of back and forth?

I really hope its the latter. Having played the original game with both the UK and US rules, I much prefer it when monsters can take a hit or two and fight on. If anything I'd hope that in the new game it will be even harder to kill the monsters than in the US edition. So that you basically have to work as a team or end up fleeing if things go badly and you're alone.

I normally GM my games of heroquest and I hate having to throw down every single chaos warrior and the gargoyle at the same time to make the players actually feel like they might need to work as a team.

A mummy and another skeleton



It's nice that they keep posting little updates, but does anyone else feel like this is all a bit repetitive? Especially when we haven't seen anything of the not-firmir, the chaos warriors, the ogres, most of the additional heroes, the vampire, servants etc.

Perhaps its sequential, revealing what they have to reveal. Anyway I am not impressed by the mummies, they just don't look right.

Gorechild - completely know what you mean!

I like the way with these undead they have gone for un-natural poses with them. It gives a good 'Harryhausen'-type vibe to them, you can imagine them fighting in stop-gap animation against Sinbad and the like.

Two ruined archways.



@Orlanth - I get that they're posting them all in batches, but what I meant was that this is probably the 4th time we've been shown the skeletons (concept artwork, 3d renders, rejected miscasts, final version). Yet we haven't seen a physical model for 1 of the original heroes, 2 of the female heroes, 14 of the additional heroes, the chaos warriors, the drakks, the ogres, the wraith, the servants, the vampire, the stone sentinels etc, etc. and half of those we have seen literally nothing for.

It makes you wonder how far is still left to go in the design process for a lot of these things, let alone production.







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I just noticed another potentially significant tidbit of information over on the BGG forum:

The German Gamezone website says 'Verfügbar ab 14.05.2015'.....Available from 14th May 2015.

http://gamezoneminiatures.de/startseite/heroquest-25.html

Presumably that would be for retail versions of the game and they did claim that backers should receive their copies before general release. That said, nothing is mentioned on the main GZ web page and there hasn't been any official update (surprise surprise!), but someone must have updated the site on their end, so fingers crossed!

It also mentions a delivery time of 2-3 days.

While I appreciate that FyD Forja y Desván TV took the time to do the videos they are just recycling the same stuff over based on what they got in their visits to Gamezone they don't have anything new to show now and it seems to be an exercise in driving views of their Youtube channel now. While I don't speak Spanish I have no idea how they can do multiple 1 to 2 hour chats what can they be covering.

As i said I'm grateful they did it but it's run it's course now.

Release in May so late April to backers maybe?

Is that 'available' in May , or 'pre-order' in May?


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@Orlanth - I get that they're posting them all in batches, but what I meant was that this is probably the 4th time we've been shown the skeletons (concept artwork, 3d renders, rejected miscasts, final version). Yet we haven't seen a physical model for 1 of the original heroes, 2 of the female heroes, 14 of the additional heroes, the chaos warriors, the drakks, the ogres, the wraith, the servants, the vampire, the stone sentinels etc, etc. and half of those we have seen literally nothing for.

It makes you wonder how far is still left to go in the design process for a lot of these things, let alone production.

I wouldn't worry

Gamezone are only releasing miniature previews now, not images. The images are likely long done and are an easy stage.

If you look at the videos they put up all the core eight heroes are done, and are being shown on those videos, we just haven't seen the close up previews yet. Also 'lots' of the monsters are done, more than have been shown properly.
Gamezone are sequentially releasing images two per day to keep interest stable. Given the number of models in this set we have a good two or three months of previews to do yet.

Remember the video they showed of the factory some months back with large bags full of dungeon furniture, particularly the wardrobes. When they design and make the miniatures they also batch a large number of them for the backers and first release run. So they may not have made the chaos warriors yet, but that need not alarm anyone. There isn't a design stage then the manufacturing stage, manufacturing appears to immediately follow design on each individual component, so when the last few prototype sculpts run off they will likely be all that is left that needs doing.

So yes, maybe some models aren't made yet, but Gamezone have been making miniatures a long time, and know how to make all the things we are missing, at least with regards to miniatures.

The only real question on competence is whether they can get the cardboard components right and the rules quality. Though if like me you are in it for the miniatures then that does not matter so much.

I would not worrit over anything other than the legal issue, and I would worrit only over that for the US backers and general retailers outside the EU.
Gamezone were off to a rocky start with regards to communications, but this is a crowdfund project and those are in two categories, those that deliver late and those that deliver not at all. With all the stuff we are seeing Heroquest 25h is in the former category. We are over 12 months on the clock already and four months 'overdue', but its coming our way and the quality has not been dropped.
So in all I am happy, and suggest you see the bright side also. You are in for a lot of well made resin goodness at a low backers price, relax and enjoy.

From BGG, translated by one of their users from a French Heroquest forum...

'I'm sorry of being late, I had to pass this weekend with my family and yes, I have had the chance to speak with Dionisio on Friday evening. I will start by telling you this, the official date is on May 14, 2015 for the stores to sell the boardgame. This means that the game will be delivered to them earlier and the pre-orders will be delivered to you on May 7. The backers even earlier than that but I have no idea for the pouet (*what is 'pouet'?). Just for the things to arrive little by little. Regarding the minatures, I have noticed that Rokror have already dropped the piece so I will not occupy myself with that. My translation FR has been reviewed by another fan FR and transmitted to a professional translator by one of the editors who are responsible for the finalization of the documents. I will not receive the prototype but only the boardgame. My only task from now on is the updates' translation of the official site (2 of them are already done but they are not online yet) or the online boutique (1 is still not on line).'

So if all goes to plan It sounds like the start of May is when backers will be getting their games (sod's law it will be the day I go on holiday for 2 weeks D: ). But most reassuringly, it sounds like the rules are being professionally translated. So no dodgey google translations like most of their updates have been!