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Pretty sure the hero at 6:09 is the Swordmaster.
You only see the torso but he has elf ears, the same cloak with shoulder frill and the same pectoral.
I hope the Chaos Sorcerer from 3:52 of this video is the one from the set, he has a very nice flowing robe, and has the eight pointed star iconography.
If so the sorcerer from the previous video may well by one of the two evil wizards either Morcar or Zargon, or even the Demented Mage hero.
Thank you for the video.
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I think the Chaos Sorcerer at 3:52 is from an older line of gamezone products, it has nothing to do with HQ25.
You can see/buy it here:
Hechicero del caos III
It seems that Gamezone went radio silent once again, even after they'r last known deadline, spring, has ended.
So there are no news even on the spanish forums.
If you want some more detailed pictures of painted HQ miniatures there are some spanish blogs that showed a few.
This one has before and after pictures, the painter praised the sturdiness of the resin and the detail of the models but had some harsh words on the size of chunks of leftover resin that had to be cut manualy to clean the figures:
Dwarf Painted Dwarf
gpires wrote: I think the Chaos Sorcerer at 3:52 is from an older line of gamezone products, it has nothing to do with HQ25.
You can see/buy it here:
Hechicero del caos III
Well, with the shipping voucher I can afford to get the other Chaos Sorcerer if i so wish.
It seems that Gamezone went radio silent once again, even after they'r last known deadline, spring, has ended.
So there are no news even on the spanish forums.
It's about time to ask of any Dakka member is near enough to Seville to knock on door, its a small company, so you might get in.
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If it's not too much trouble, could you go through the video I posted at the bottom of the previous page and let us know what is being said? Are the models confirmed as being part of the game? And are my guesses correct?
Thanks again for stopping by to help out all the non-Spanish speakers
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Gorechild wrote: If it's not too much trouble, could you go through the video I posted at the bottom of the previous page and let us know what is being said? Are the models confirmed as being part of the game? And are my guesses correct?
No problem.
You have everything right, at least as far as hardhead said in the video.
Just one extra detail, the female zombie is refered to "amade las llaves" so it seems that she was some sort of housekeeper and has a set of keys.
Also, at the end of the video, hardhead said that he heard rumors that there were less (or is it fewer??) than 10 minis left to be produced.
Holy hell, I stop checking for two days and miss out on all of this!
Mole Troll, Tentacles of the Abyss, Evil Sorcerer (Morcar/Zargon/standard I'm not sure which) and the Mercenary
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Big fan of the troll, its face reminds me of the bats in the Peter Jackson version of King Kong on the body of a Cave Troll. I imagined the tentacles to be bigger, maybe over 4 board tiles, these look like they will topple over when you move models around them. glad they aren't too octopus-like though. The sorcerer is okay, don't like it as much as the one with the ram-skull helmet we saw in the last video though. Hopefully its a case of including both, not one or the other. The Merc is another 'okay' one I guess, completely inoffensive, but nothing special that makes it stand out in my eyes.
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I hope that isn't the case, I really liked the one with the metal sword we'd seen before. Fingers crossed both models make it in and one of them is an additional hero, if not, it sort of explains why they're 7 months late if they feel the need to completely redesign really good quality miniatures for seemingly no reason.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And a different design for the female wizard? Again, this seems like another needless redesign and (in my eyes) isn't as good a sculpt as the female mage we had previously seen.
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This is the biggest problem with Gamezones zero information policy, there is no way of telling which models we have seen are genuine parts of the game. There's nothing wrong with this model at all, had I not seen the other one I would be more than happy with it, but if it now turns out that this is the finalised piece and the other sculpts are not going to feature as one of the 15 additional heroes, I end up being disappointed with the end product.
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One of those will probably be the renegade or the bounty hunter of the additional 15 heroes.
Gorechild wrote: And a different design for the female wizard? Again, this seems like another needless redesign and (in my eyes) isn't as good a sculpt as the female mage we had previously seen.
Which female mage are you referring to?
I had only seen a prototype that was nearly identical to this one.
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Most of the minis in that video are from older lines of gamezone products that used to be sold in metal, but that are starting to be produced in resin.
The one at 05:21 is indeed reffered to as human female wizard, but it is clearly said that it could fit very well in HQ25 (implying that it is in fact not from HQ25).
But as Orlanth pointed out before, if you really like that figure you could use the shipping voucher to buy it.
Learned Sorceress
The real question is why did they design all the HQ25 figures from scratch if they already had cool looking figures like this one?
This might be my favourite mini so far, even with the INSANE axe
Also, a size comparison for the tentacles. It seems to be noticeably wider than a miniatures base, and doesn't look quite so top heavy in this video. so hopefully it won't be getting knocked over constantly.
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Lost my internet for a week, actually longer, but I was away for most of the time and had access elsewhere.
Good day to return to Dakka and my most awaited thread. I drink up all the posts on this thread and on Dungeon Saga, both of which is sadly too quiet. human Interface thread is slow also, but while this project is the most iffy with regards to delivery time, its the most promising in regards to content.
The one at 05:21 is indeed reffered to as human female wizard, but it is clearly said that it could fit very well in HQ25 (implying that it is in fact not from HQ25).
But as Orlanth pointed out before, if you really like that figure you could use the shipping voucher to buy it.
Learned Sorceress
Thanks for that, this is why we need Spanish speakers to go over the videos and textwalls. Were any of the miniatures actually for Heroquest?
Big fan of the troll, its face reminds me of the bats in the Peter Jackson version of King Kong on the body of a Cave Troll.
I wonder if it will be that material, while I wouldn't choose a translucent effect it can look good and I would make a go of it. Pain the the rock and the eyes, add a dash of Devlin Mud, done.
Tentacles would be awesome in spooky translucent resin, especially if they plug into a n opaque resin base.
I imagined the tentacles to be bigger, maybe over 4 board tiles, these look like they will topple over when you move models around them. glad they aren't too octopus-like though.
I suppose they have to fit a single square for game convenience. One could weight them with a coin with putty surround underneath.
Also, a size comparison for the tentacles. It seems to be noticeably wider than a miniatures base, and doesn't look quite so top heavy in this video. so hopefully it won't be getting knocked over constantly.
Nice to see the tentacles have a threat to them. Place that marker in the middle of a 20ft square for an Evard's Black Tentacles spell effect. Those tentacles easily have reach for the whole spell area and makes more sense than a 'carpet' of tentacles. I might place the flagstone base on a round base with a sand rim, not so much to guarantee stability, I dont think that is going to be the issue but to make the base that is 'neutral' so it fits in non dungeon environments,
The sorcerer is okay, don't like it as much as the one with the ram-skull helmet we saw in the last video though. Hopefully its a case of including both, not one or the other.
Level three backers get both evil wizards, those pre-ordering get an evil wizard of their choice with a level 1 retail boxset.. I think this is the regular chaos sorcerer though, it doesn't look like it has boss credentials, in fact I don't like it at all. I would far rather swap it for the old flowing robes chaos sorcerer.
The Merc is another 'okay' one I guess, completely inoffensive, but nothing special that makes it stand out in my eyes.
He might have choice of armament, pose is ok, the putty makes the weapons look askew. I dont like the loadout though, its a waste of a good pose for a halberdier.
Gorechild wrote: They've redesigned the female elf?
I hope that isn't the case, I really liked the one with the metal sword we'd seen before. Fingers crossed both models make it in and one of them is an additional hero, if not, it sort of explains why they're 7 months late if they feel the need to completely redesign really good quality miniatures for seemingly no reason.
That is almost certainly the Renegada, her armour is very dark elf, I was expecting less armoured-ballgown and more battle-bodice though.
And a different design for the female wizard? Again, this seems like another needless redesign and (in my eyes) isn't as good a sculpt as the female mage we had previously seen.
Remastered, the orange original was the same miniatures but a first rough cast.
Gorechild wrote: LOVE IT!! Chaos Warrior.
This might be my favourite mini so far, even with the INSANE axe
I liked the earlier chaos warriors, we are getting fresh sculpts for the game, but they have their chaos warriors done perfectly now, so why change the basic profile.
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What seems to be the finalised version of the fat zombie woman
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As I said before, it strikes me as such a characterful model that would feel odd if you saw it more than once in a mission/campaign. Its not a bad mini, but when there are so few zombies in the set, having one that can't really be used repeatedly limits GM's a little. In the same way that if the 'insane mage' hero died in a quest, it would be jarring from a story telling perspective if the same model reappeared in the next room.
From my perspective that zed is very scenario specific it seems, notice the keys on her belt. As a housekeeper that is probably important.
So I will use the model to signify a target zombie to be attacked and looted, zombies arent generally loot monsters in fantasy games and only 'drop' quest loot.
For my regular zeds I will get a couple of sprues of GW and Mantic zombies and be done with it, so I don't mind that these miniatures are overly specific.
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For me I am most excited for the terrain, you can literally get everything else from either GZ's existing line, reaper, mierce...you get the idea, but modular dungeon terrain to the standard we have seen here is RARE for the cost of this game.
Definitely a big influence for me. I mentioned this way back during the crowdfund campaign. I bought one level 3 for the miniatures, then added a second level 1 because it was the most cost effective way of getting more terrain, upgrading that to a second level 3 for a double dose of miniatures.
The wardrobes were the clincher for me.
Comments from the time:
Orlanth wrote: I bought an extra 'furniture pack' and the bold teenagers for 70 Euro with half an hour left on the clock.
Thank you Pacific for the heads up on the timing window, I had all day to look over what I wanted. I was tempted to be in for another 110 Euros but thought better of it for my wallets health.
As for the furniture pack. I didnt see the point in buying one for 49 Euro, especially with any monster packs etc when the entire game costs 65 and has a lot of cool stuff. But depending on the quality of the rules the 65 Euro set will be my set for the game, and the 110 Euro set will be the one scavenged for parts.
I wonder how many bought this just for the minis, I am not yet sure I did, I like games like this, love Descent, but I found the original Heroquest dumb and simplistic.
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Another mini, this time the Bounty Hunter, she even has a little pet.
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And still no official word from Gamezone on when shipping starts, but if you want the latest rumours here they are:
ForjaYDesvan have said in one of the videos that they believe the game will be in their hands by the end of august.
(I still remember back in january some similar comments by them saying that it would arrive in february or march at the most...)
On the other hand a user called Sagres has commented on another forum that his contacts tell him it will slide to late september early october, and Sagres as been pretty much proven right most of the times he has said anything about this project.
Forja Y Desvan might have an early copy for presentation purposes, with an October general release to backers.
Dakka would like to know what else Sagres has said if he is a good source.
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Orlanth wrote: Dakka would like to know what else Sagres has said if he is a good source.
Nothing that would do you any good right now.
He mostly comes out with info to disprove false or misleading rumours about HQ25 that start to spread thru the forums.
I'll give you an example, at one time it was commented that GZ had already part of the boards and cards printed and stored in another warehouse.
Sagres came out and said plainly that GZ does not have any other warehouse and that not a single card or board had been printed yet because GZ were still talking with 3 different printing companies and had not chosen which one would be used.
A couple of months latter an interview with GZ mentioned that it would take a full month to print, sort and get all the cards ready to put in the final boxes and that that process had not yet started because they had not sent the final files to the printers.
Sagres also described the dwarf with the mask and crossbow before it was seen anywhere else.
Obviously the sooner we get hold of our copies the better, but I've got past the point of caring about when it comes. As long as everything meets the high standards we've seen so far and its a playable game (or at least a suitable basis to house rule something that works for my gaming group), I'll be happy.
I'm just hoping for it to appear some time this year.
I really like the bounty hunter, the mini itself is simple yet interesting and if its coupled with some cool rules for the kestrel (?) it will be great fun to use.
Gorechild wrote: Obviously the sooner we get hold of our copies the better, but I've got past the point of caring about when it comes. As long as everything meets the high standards we've seen so far and its a playable game (or at least a suitable basis to house rule something that works for my gaming group), I'll be happy.
As with all Mantic rulesets Dungeon Saga will be free to download, as it is a squared tile based dungeon bash you should be able to convert up easily enough to the downloaded ruleset. Mantic will be providing stats for the creratures in its core line of miniatures, so there will be plenty of profiles for baddies to stock a dungeon with. Bonus if Mantic include character creation rules which is not a given.
You can also download the Descent rules for free but would need to make your own character and monster profiles and rig up an Overlord deck so that might be more tricky.
If you want Heroquest for the RPG miniatures (recommended) but don't trust the ruleset to be good (which I think is shrewd) then you are covered.
However, who knows Gamezone might be decent games designers as well as sculptors, Heroquest 25th might be a blast.
I really like the bounty hunter, the mini itself is simple yet interesting and if its coupled with some cool rules for the kestrel (?) it will be great fun to use.
Good that she has a blunt weapon for subduing rather than killing her quary.
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Gorechild wrote: Obviously the sooner we get hold of our copies the better, but I've got past the point of caring about when it comes. As long as everything meets the high standards we've seen so far and its a playable game (or at least a suitable basis to house rule something that works for my gaming group), I'll be happy.
As with all Mantic rulesets Dungeon Saga will be free to download, as it is a squared tile based dungeon bash you should be able to convert up easily enough to the downloaded ruleset. Mantic will be providing stats for the creratures in its core line of miniatures, so there will be plenty of profiles for baddies to stock a dungeon with. Bonus if Mantic include character creation rules which is not a given.
You can also download the Descent rules for free but would need to make your own character and monster profiles and rig up an Overlord deck so that might be more tricky.
If you want Heroquest for the RPG miniatures (recommended) but don't trust the ruleset to be good (which I think is shrewd) then you are covered.
However, who knows Gamezone might be decent games designers as well as sculptors, Heroquest 25th might be a blast.
I know all too well that there are a lot of flaws to the original HQ, but having grown up with it, I would be devastated if the rules were completely overhauled. I'm hoping that HQ25 fixes at least some of the issues with the original, not that it makes it into a completely different dungeon crawler. Added depth and functionality would be great, but for me to truly be happy it still needs to feel like I'm playing HeroQuest. If it doesn't I think I'll just use the new mini's and scenery with the original rules I've spent the last 15 years home brewing, I just hope all of the character sheets and cards still keep that as a possibility.
Gorechild wrote: Obviously the sooner we get hold of our copies the better, but I've got past the point of caring about when it comes. As long as everything meets the high standards we've seen so far and its a playable game (or at least a suitable basis to house rule something that works for my gaming group), I'll be happy.
As with all Mantic rulesets Dungeon Saga will be free to download, as it is a squared tile based dungeon bash you should be able to convert up easily enough to the downloaded ruleset. Mantic will be providing stats for the creratures in its core line of miniatures, so there will be plenty of profiles for baddies to stock a dungeon with. Bonus if Mantic include character creation rules which is not a given.
You can also download the Descent rules for free but would need to make your own character and monster profiles and rig up an Overlord deck so that might be more tricky.
If you want Heroquest for the RPG miniatures (recommended) but don't trust the ruleset to be good (which I think is shrewd) then you are covered.
However, who knows Gamezone might be decent games designers as well as sculptors, Heroquest 25th might be a blast.
I know all too well that there are a lot of flaws to the original HQ, but having grown up with it, I would be devastated if the rules were completely overhauled. I'm hoping that HQ25 fixes at least some of the issues with the original, not that it makes it into a completely different dungeon crawler. Added depth and functionality would be great, but for me to truly be happy it still needs to feel like I'm playing HeroQuest. If it doesn't I think I'll just use the new mini's and scenery with the original rules I've spent the last 15 years home brewing, I just hope all of the character sheets and cards still keep that as a possibility.
Not met any actual Heroquest fans on this thread so far funnily enough, its all been about the miniatures.
No doubt they exist but when I mentioned quite frequently what my expectations for the rules were it gained no response.
For I the further they are from the original the better, however we could both get what we want if the game has 'classic' and 'advanced' rules, with the latter set bringing the depth of play the old heroquest rules couldn't really provide.
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