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Really cool trailer guys! I'm sure those will make a lot of people happy.

Yea I can see this one really taking off.

Bizzaro Kyoto not interested in not Death Korps of Not Krieg.

Bizzaro Kyoto not want to not hear less!

Will there be any vehicles, ogres, Cavalry with this Kickstarter?

It's an entire army, yes.

Now that's definitely a better teaser. Looks pretty cool. Still not spider people though! :(

This is better than Spider-People - and will sell a lot more than Spider-People would too!

Who knows, maybe it'll help fund those spider people!

Since this is plastic too I can see people going pretty big on this.

I'm sure I'll end up with a box or two just because.

I feel like with each kit Shieldwolf releases the quality continues to improve as well, so I'm excited for this (especially if the weapons are close in scale to the sisters).

Looking good, very sharp.

On a different note what is happening with the Forest Goblins at the moment? Site shows still on pre-order, is that the case?

Sales in these are going to be insane.
Looks amazing.

@ingtaer Yes, they are still in pre-order actually as we are still mailing out parcels; the response from the hobbyists has been great, we are very happy and appreciative!
When we finish the last of the preorders (we are almost done) the image will change.
Thank you.

@skarsol Our research showed a plastic kit for the Aracnomaidens/Aracnowraths would not be adequately supported therefore not making back the (huge) investment from the company. Their own hope now is if one of our projects goes viral and they end up getting funded by the community.

Now this is intriguing!

Are you looking to do them in HIPS?

They're looking very sharp but that mutant horse's mechanical elbows are stapled directly to it's chest and I can't unsee it. It reminds me of Cotton Hill's shins.

These look really cool, but after the Shieldmaidens (which are also quite nice, but... not all what I was expecting them to be), I'll wait until I can see a complete sprue before anything else.

 Albertorius wrote:
These look really cool, but after the Shieldmaidens (which are also quite nice, but... not all what I was expecting them to be), I'll wait until I can see a complete sprue before anything else.

I know what you mean. I too went in for them and have since sold them as I liked the individual components but not the legs and torso's.

But I am sorry I didn't back the forest goblins as the plastic kits looked to of turned out great.

I'll be in for these more than likely after seeing more renders.

A horse like that is almost definitely resin, right, not injection molded. That would be crazy if you want to have any kind of variety in a unit. I'd love them in resin

Are these the final sculpts, or is there still room for them to be adjusted? Because that grenade-throwing guy seems to have issues with his right arm; it looks like his shoulder is rotated forward rather than back and the sleeve isn't twisted enough for the transition between the shoulder and elbow. I think the folds of the cloth should form a long helix all the way from the wrist to the torso. Hard to judge from the image though and it is far from the worst anatomical issue I've seen on a miniature.

The backpack is kind of confusing me to. Is it meant to be a small rectangular pack with a cylindrical object strapped to the top and a rolled blanket or something folded over the top of that and down the sides? If so, I think it would look better with the top straps also holding the blanket in place, as at the moment it looks really precarious with only the little side straps holding it there.

Here's an image of what I think the backpack is trying to imitate. As you can see here, there is a central strap to stop the middle of the rolled blanket just flopping off the top of the pack.

That mounted commander looks amazeballs!

Did someone call the cavalry?

Look, I'm sorry, I'll probably get brushed under the carpet with 'hayturz gonna hayt', but I say this with an intent of honest feedback: the legs on that steed are giving me the itchy twitches.



It looks like your sculptor doesn't have much experience with horses. That's not meant as an insult, no shame in being unaware of something. Horse limbs are weird from the vantage point of a human. Because the upper 'arm', the humerus, is buried under a big block of muscle (especially those huge triceps) it can look like part of the flank, and someone unfamiliar with horses can assume the 'elbow' is actually the 'shoulder' and that's where the whole leg rotates from. Not so. Even the shoulder blade moves with the step:





I think that's the basic problem with the steed sculpts shown here: the forelegs are placed forward to emphasise the rearing and trotting poses, but so far forward that there doesn't seem to be any room for the upper arm to exist, even as short as it is in horses, and that the sculptor doesn't realise it exists. That's what's creating the 'elbows grafted directly onto the chest' look.
Also, because both forelegs are placed forward (combined with the relatively sedate-looking pace of the hind legs) it's messing with the trotting effect, and the sense of movement. It kind of 'shoves me out of the story' and leaves those legs literally dangling. And then there's the shoulders, which, sorry, just look like a couple of wrinkly afterthoughts.

(Just to pre-emptively answer any assertions about 'fictional monsters', even the Gorkamorka minis used for the original DKoK conversions, gribbly as they were, stuck fairly close to the basic arrangement of a horse's limb elements.)

I don't know if that'll change anything, but I really think it'd help to skim over some anatomy references. The internet's littered with them. But, there we are.

I’m glad you’re giving them the tools to improve their knowledge. It’s not too late for them to fix their horses, even if they are alien horses with split hooves and that, I assume, cheweth the cud.

PS: this thread just got really interesting for John Oliver.

I too strongly prefer horses with reasonably horsey anatomy. Because they are not furry enough to conceal the structure, yet are well known, bad anatomy in horses really stands out.

It's a horse in a hazmat suit!

 RiTides wrote:
A horse like that is almost definitely resin, right, not injection molded. That would be crazy if you want to have any kind of variety in a unit. I'd love them in resin

For the most part, the detail looks like it's been sculpted with plastic in mind, but they would either need some tweaking or an awful lot of splits to make them work... the horse's head would need the forehead and ears, and the nose piece all split off, and the legs would need to be split down the middle to allow for the cloven hooves and the lower leg dimples.

 insaniak wrote:
For the most part, the detail looks like it's been sculpted with plastic in mind, but they would either need some tweaking or an awful lot of splits to make them work... the horse's head would need the forehead and ears, and the nose piece all split off, and the legs would need to be split down the middle to allow for the cloven hooves and the lower leg dimples.

Some of the infantry details look unlikely to be practical in plastic too; look at the tread on the sole of the boot.

Yeah but regardless, with that pose you don't want more than 1 in a force really... no point being injection molded (my comment was regarding the rearing up horse).

Even for the unit, though, I hope these are resin, not plastic...

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
For the most part, the detail looks like it's been sculpted with plastic in mind, but they would either need some tweaking or an awful lot of splits to make them work... the horse's head would need the forehead and ears, and the nose piece all split off, and the legs would need to be split down the middle to allow for the cloven hooves and the lower leg dimples.

Some of the infantry details look unlikely to be practical in plastic too; look at the tread on the sole of the boot.

Yeah, for the infantry guy the boot tread, the gubbinz hanging on his belt, the jacket creases down the sides of the torso and under the arms, and the helmet would all be problematic in plastic.

I agree with Vermis' assessment of the anatomy. I understand it may be supposed to be an alien horse, but you will get a much better response from the community if it looks more like a real horse. People know subconsciously what a horse is supposed to look like, and if your sculpt doesn't match that subconscious expectation, it will create a bad response.

Goof points on the horses, and that one guy - I hope the models can be manipulated to look more realistic. Measure twice, cut once - after all!

Another concern is that the models in the rather large renders we have here appear to be been ...erm.. modelled with realistic proportions rather than with the exaggeration required for 28mm models once they're in hand.

I'm not asking for Catachans or Games Workshop '90's dwarfs, but these guys look like they'll be really spindly, like some of the earlier Mantic offerings and the odd other 3rd party model like some of the Heresylabs or ArtelW stuff - beautiful sculpts to be sure, but not ones that easily fit into ...existing collections very well.