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@Ian Sturrock

Errr... you are forgeting the additional free sprue you guys unlocked with the 500 backers total :-)

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@Ian Sturrock

Errr... you are forgeting the additional free sprue you guys unlocked with the 500 backers total :-)

Nope, actually counting on it. If what we saw is how it's in the final sprues, the cloaks and the regular backs should allow us to use all the bodies in each box with minimal conversion.

So based on the line up picture with the maiden and the Space marine. It looks like the shield maidens are the same size as reaper and Raging heroes. I took a pick with some existing minis (Raging heroes, reaper, space marine, Stormcast with Kingdom death head, and frostgrave barbarian. The Frost grave guy I think will be more like a dwarf compared with any of them.

Looking forward to the shield maidens.

Oh and someone mentioned blood rage, so here is a blood rage girl. She is as tall as the reaper mini so looks like a match with the shield màiden

Thanks for the great pics Smokestack, they do a great job conveying what I wanted to say: the Frostgrave plastics are disappointingly small and really only scale with 25mm historical minis. I am very happy that Shieldmaiden went with a scale that fits with the vast majority of fantasy miniatures instead of napoleonics.

For the ones, who haven't checked it so far, the latest review:
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.gr/2017/03/shieldwolf-miniatures-plastic-fantasy.html

Sprues look nice.

Two figures I wish we'd see in these lineups- Bloodbound and Frostgrave Soldiers!

Those are the two types of figures I see these ladies interacting with the most on the table. Curious how they measure up to each other.

Yeah.. ugh.. I have to figure out what to do with a fethload of oversized barbarian ladies now. Interest in this has dropped off basically altogether.

Yeah, they are pretty out of scale with the old Warhammer Fantasy line, but with the new scale creep of Age of Sigmar, I think they will look right.

 MLaw wrote:
Yeah.. ugh.. I have to figure out what to do with a fethload of oversized barbarian ladies now. Interest in this has dropped off basically altogether.

Paint them with a semi fantasy skin colour and say they are of a breed of semi giants

 MLaw wrote:
Yeah.. ugh.. I have to figure out what to do with a fethload of oversized barbarian ladies now. Interest in this has dropped off basically altogether.

What are you looking to sell or trade for?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Yeah.. ugh.. I have to figure out what to do with a fethload of oversized barbarian ladies now. Interest in this has dropped off basically altogether.

What are you looking to sell or trade for?

I PM'd you a trade list

Anyone know where the alt head on the stormcast is from? Makes it look awesome!!

Yes I have to agree with the scale issue that is disappointing, way over sized if I had known that from the start I would have passed on these.

overtyrant wrote:
Anyone know where the alt head on the stormcast is from? Makes it look awesome!!

It is one of the head types from the Valkyr Heavy Troopers box from Dreamforge. Luckily that box comes with two (or is it three?) different head options and enough for the whole squad, so you should be able to find someone with a set to spare.

Well they did provide a scale comparison during the Kickstarter, is this incorrect? If so I would be asking for a refund, but if she is actually the same size as the GW Cauldron of Blood Witch Elf (which it looks like they might be? IIRC newer Elves are quite tall) I don't think you'd have much of a leg to stand on.

They're a bit unnecessarily tall for my taste (though the proportions are great), but as said: no taller that what's clearly shown in the comparasion picture.

They will scale well enough with WHFB figures as long as they're not mixed together in the same unit. I'd say it's no bigger difference between that lumpy 6th ed starterset spearman and one of the shieldmaidens, than one of those spearmen and say, a metal greatsword from the same era from the same company. The comparasion with GW models is jarring, not so much for the size difference but because the maidens are more or less scaled like an actual human.

The more serious size difference is with the maidens and historical figures, but if used in a fantasy setting I see no problem with there existing a particularly tall group/tribe of humans producing these warrior women.

 Mymearan wrote:
Well they did provide a scale comparison during the Kickstarter, is this incorrect? If so I would be asking for a refund, but if she is actually the same size as the GW Cauldron of Blood Witch Elf (which it looks like they might be? IIRC newer Elves are quite tall) I don't think you'd have much of a leg to stand on.

I know a mate of mine has this model in his dark elves army might pop around and have a look once they turn up then, be interesting to see how close it is to this preview.

I'm actually less concerned, seeing the size comparisons. They're like half a head taller than WFB humans, which is fine from my perspective to represent a tall tribe of Viking-ish shieldmaidens.

“There were once women in Denmark who dressed themselves to look like men and spent almost every minute cultivating soldiers’ skills. …They courted military celebrity so earnestly that you would have guessed they had unsexed themselves. Those especially who had forceful personalities or were tall and elegant embarked on this way of life. As if they were forgetful of their true selves they put toughness before allure, aimed at conflicts instead of kisses, tasted blood, not lips, sought the clash of arms rather than the arm’s embrace, fitted to weapons hands which should have been weaving, desired not the couch but the kill…” -- Saxo Grammaticus, describing the original shieldmaidens of Scandinavia

 Mymearan wrote:
Well they did provide a scale comparison during the Kickstarter, is this incorrect? If so I would be asking for a refund, but if she is actually the same size as the GW Cauldron of Blood Witch Elf (which it looks like they might be? IIRC newer Elves are quite tall) I don't think you'd have much of a leg to stand on.

Spoiler:

 corgan wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Well they did provide a scale comparison during the Kickstarter, is this incorrect? If so I would be asking for a refund, but if she is actually the same size as the GW Cauldron of Blood Witch Elf (which it looks like they might be? IIRC newer Elves are quite tall) I don't think you'd have much of a leg to stand on.

Spoiler:

Yes to be honest looking at the newer female elves they are taller than older ones, plus the shadowed cauldron of blood elf is taller by the looks of things compared too the older metal version.

I guess I will just have to try and sell mine as they will look odd against the older models I was hoping to use them with.

That silhouette was always going to be a difficult way to tell size, given how the GW model was posed...

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Yes to be honest looking at the newer female elves they are taller than older ones, plus the shadowed cauldron of blood elf is taller by the looks of things compared too the older metal version.

I guess I will just have to try and sell mine as they will look odd against the older models I was hoping to use them with.

Inquiring PM sent

The size (in terms of height and proportions) seems perfect to me, they'll fit really well on the sorts of battlefields I might use them on.

The range of weapons is good, although it would have been nice to see some 2H options or some off-hand options besides the shields - mostly for the sake of the rangers, who I think would look good with a dagger or handaxe. Having said that, at least it seems like all the left arms feature a fist holding a handle so theres potential for minor conversion there - which is nice.

The only trouble is that I was going to use these in place of 20mm square infantry and clearly they're not gonna fit in that small. All good - we can adapt.

I am actually glad they are this way. They're actually proportionally correct, or at least a lot more correct than the majority of human scaled miniatures you see on the market with massive hands, missing stomachs, stumpy legs and huge heads.

Now I need Mantic to make a Northern Barbarian force so I can shoe-horn these into a game system

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Now I need Mantic to make a Northern Barbarian force so I can shoe-horn these into a game system

Agree. I would personally have prefered them being a bit smaller,(but retaining the same proportions), so they'd scaled better with historical 28mm's. But if they're not mixed together in the same unit, the maidens will hardly look more off than having say units unit of GW men-at arms /statetroops and Fireforge or Perry infantry in the same army,

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Now I need Mantic to make a Northern Barbarian force so I can shoe-horn these into a game system

They'd work well as Varangur wouldn't they? Until the Northern alliance list is released, which should be a dead ringer for use with these models.

I think they would make excellent Varangur, it's what I had planned for them! Only issue is fitting on bases as a large part of the list is on 20mm, but multibasing can really help with that.

 Micky wrote:
The size (in terms of height and proportions) seems perfect to me, they'll fit really well on the sorts of battlefields I might use them on.

The range of weapons is good, although it would have been nice to see some 2H options or some off-hand options besides the shields - mostly for the sake of the rangers, who I think would look good with a dagger or handaxe. Having said that, at least it seems like all the left arms feature a fist holding a handle so theres potential for minor conversion there - which is nice.

The only trouble is that I was going to use these in place of 20mm square infantry and clearly they're not gonna fit in that small. All good - we can adapt.

Judging from the pictures, I think that a 20mm square base would be an option.

 RiTides wrote:
I think they would make excellent Varangur, it's what I had planned for them! Only issue is fitting on bases as a large part of the list is on 20mm, but multibasing can really help with that.

Yep, they'd proxy well in both aspects. And truly, multibasing is always going to be your friend. You can have fewer models on the multi-base, but still have it as representative of the unit. I love a system where it's easy to just break it down into the correct multi-base size for the units you're looking to represent. I usually go by a 3/5 ratio for them so I have enough space so they don't look crowded, but doesn't look like I skimped on the miniatures either.

And yeah, a Northern Alliance ruleset would be great to have.

 Micky wrote:
The size (in terms of height and proportions) seems perfect to me, they'll fit really well on the sorts of battlefields I might use them on.

We use the same scale as the one the largest company of our sector is lately using, our supporters think it's the best size to use for their existing armies.

 Micky wrote:

The range of weapons is good, although it would have been nice to see some 2H options or some off-hand options besides the shields - mostly for the sake of the rangers, who I think would look good with a dagger or handaxe. Having said that, at least it seems like all the left arms feature a fist holding a handle so theres potential for minor conversion there - which is nice.

Well, we have to stick with our fluff, each unit has to keep their own characteristics.
-The Shieldmaidens bear chainmail and are the slightly disciplined part of the army, they have shields to better stand their ground.
-The Warmaidens bear no armor but use instead dual weaponry to spread more death.
-The Dragonbreds bear plate armor, are the most disciplned part and mainly use two-handed weaponry as they are the heavy hitters (although we have designed SGs to supply them with 2nd hand also).
So, the 2nd hand weapons were the ones destined for the Warmaidens which have been designed to be interchangable with the Shieldmaiden kit. Unfortunately they weren't unlocked during the project so you can't use them to switch/convert (you wouldn't have needed to buy any as we were offering 2 boxes of them for free to all gold level pledges). So I guess if you want dual weaponry for the Shieldmaidens you'll either have to wait for the Warmaidens and use stuff from their sprues or have to do some conversions

 Micky wrote:

The only trouble is that I was going to use these in place of 20mm square infantry and clearly they're not gonna fit in that small. All good - we can adapt.

Incorrect. They do fit on 20mm square bases but they are more problematic to rank compared to our 25mm ones.