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The Plantations

 M0ff3l wrote:
According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


I don't understand why you are posting this here. To gloat? Because the "I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be going back to how you questioned even the emails, and claimed that Ten wasn't reading his actual model request details.

Yet when people have brought up similar things on your own thread you have claimed you feel attacked.

So please tell us why you feel it was needed to post that.
   
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 RivenSkull wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


I don't understand why you are posting this here. To gloat? Because the "I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be going back to how you questioned even the emails, and claimed that Ten wasn't reading his actual model request details.

Yet when people have brought up similar things on your own thread you have claimed you feel attacked.

So please tell us why you feel it was needed to post that.


No, its not to gloat, its to show how they are now interracting with customers who dont ask for it and didnt do it for someone who asked. Just because I was sceptical and asked for proof doesnt mean I dont feel sorry for Tenebre.

Also I didnt claim he didnt read it, I was wondering why he asked for special treatment even though they tell you no interraction between painter and client (which isnt even correct anymore, appearantly). Its a fact that BTP said, yeah sure we can do that and they didnt.

And lastly I got called a liar and a coward, that is 100% attacking me. What I did was ASK for written proof of BTP saying "Yes we will go against our agreement and make an exception for you" and WONDER why Tenebre didnt change his mind when he read:

We need from you a single document that we can print out and put in a bin with your models such that Assembler and Painter will all know what to do without any further input. The artists do not have access to company email.

You may use the attached as a fill-in-the-blanks or just respond to this email. It is up to you to give us all the information that we need.

Nothing from emails or phone calls will make it to the artist. It ALL must go into a single written document.
   
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Chicago

 RivenSkull wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


I don't understand why you are posting this here. To gloat? Because the "I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be going back to how you questioned even the emails, and claimed that Ten wasn't reading his actual model request details.

Yet when people have brought up similar things on your own thread you have claimed you feel attacked.

So please tell us why you feel it was needed to post that.


Because he is a white knight for BTP, and for some reasons thinks that BTP hasn't been watching his thread, which as this point is about a zero percent chance.

Ustrello paints- 30k, 40k multiple armies
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/614742.page 
   
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 Ustrello wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


I don't understand why you are posting this here. To gloat? Because the "I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be going back to how you questioned even the emails, and claimed that Ten wasn't reading his actual model request details.

Yet when people have brought up similar things on your own thread you have claimed you feel attacked.

So please tell us why you feel it was needed to post that.


Because he is a white knight for BTP, and for some reasons thinks that BTP hasn't been watching his thread, which as this point is about a zero percent chance.


I just linked to a video of them saying they were in contact with some client, or does he have a post around here too that I didnt see?
   
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Chicago

 M0ff3l wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


I don't understand why you are posting this here. To gloat? Because the "I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be going back to how you questioned even the emails, and claimed that Ten wasn't reading his actual model request details.

Yet when people have brought up similar things on your own thread you have claimed you feel attacked.

So please tell us why you feel it was needed to post that.


Because he is a white knight for BTP, and for some reasons thinks that BTP hasn't been watching his thread, which as this point is about a zero percent chance.


I just linked to a video of them saying they were in contact with some client, or does he have a post around here too that I didnt see?


Ah yes, I too believe the man who sent out edited emails to potential customers from a customer who is now in a legal battle with them. That just screams trustworthiness

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 Ustrello wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


I don't understand why you are posting this here. To gloat? Because the "I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be going back to how you questioned even the emails, and claimed that Ten wasn't reading his actual model request details.

Yet when people have brought up similar things on your own thread you have claimed you feel attacked.

So please tell us why you feel it was needed to post that.


Because he is a white knight for BTP, and for some reasons thinks that BTP hasn't been watching his thread, which as this point is about a zero percent chance.


I just linked to a video of them saying they were in contact with some client, or does he have a post around here too that I didnt see?


Ah yes, I too believe the man who sent out edited emails to potential customers from a customer who is now in a legal battle with them. That just screams trustworthiness


Well you seem to believe anything thats read in videos without proof, so I was assuming that you would yeah, my bad!
   
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The Plantations

No M0ff3l, this is what I was reffering to:

 M0ff3l wrote:

Im sorry that im asking you for this much "evidence", but having to re-watch a 47 min video just to hear everything again and taking your word for it that its really what everything says. Thats just not how I think these sort of things should go. But Im sure these things will be 100% cleared up once legal action has been taken anyways, so you dont have to show me anything anyways.


Your attitude has been a constant in dismissing everything that has happened in light of Ten's order, and now you post with the coy post " I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be you attempting to gloat and continue to turn a blind eye to this.
   
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 RivenSkull wrote:
No M0ff3l, this is what I was reffering to:

 M0ff3l wrote:

Im sorry that im asking you for this much "evidence", but having to re-watch a 47 min video just to hear everything again and taking your word for it that its really what everything says. Thats just not how I think these sort of things should go. But Im sure these things will be 100% cleared up once legal action has been taken anyways, so you dont have to show me anything anyways.


Your attitude has been a constant in dismissing everything that has happened in light of Ten's order, and now you post with the coy post " I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be you attempting to gloat and continue to turn a blind eye to this.


Im sure you can understand my intentions better than that I intended them

my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!
   
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The Plantations

 M0ff3l wrote:


Well you seem to believe anything thats read in videos without proof, so I was assuming that you would yeah, my bad!


So you should also post screenshots (with names blacked out of course) of your interactions with BTP. How are we to believe your posts in quotes of what you claim to be your interactions with BTP? You could be posting anything.

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Chicago

 M0ff3l wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
No M0ff3l, this is what I was reffering to:

 M0ff3l wrote:

Im sorry that im asking you for this much "evidence", but having to re-watch a 47 min video just to hear everything again and taking your word for it that its really what everything says. Thats just not how I think these sort of things should go. But Im sure these things will be 100% cleared up once legal action has been taken anyways, so you dont have to show me anything anyways.


Your attitude has been a constant in dismissing everything that has happened in light of Ten's order, and now you post with the coy post " I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be you attempting to gloat and continue to turn a blind eye to this.


Im sure you can understand my intentions better than that I intended them

my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!


Don't be rude. motyak

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SoCal, USA!

 Ustrello wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!


Don't be rude. motyak


If you can't engage nicely, there's always the [Ignore] button...

Just a comment, not necessarily a recommendation.

   
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Chicago

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!


Don't be rude. motyak


If you can't engage nicely, there's always the [Ignore] button...

Just a comment, not necessarily a recommendation.


Yeah being the second one to be "rude" always gets you in trouble

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St Louis

my lord he is still trying to say i am making everything up? that BTP are saviors unto the gaming world and I am just some mean client who makes up stories to pick on the big company?

the levels of absurdity that would have to exist for this to be true...... I begged for months on end for communication and yet was ignored and even mocked (sending a picture of the bale tauras's butt when i asked for his face for 3 weeks straight)

i stand by that he is in league with them on some level. No normal person would ever support a random company with such fervor. Let alone accuse a client of just lying... which again makes no sense... the work speaks for itself.

also thanks for the ignore function mention.. i forgot it existed

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Man, this just sucks, blue table painting look terrible here. The miniwargaming as a pr company side of this is surreal. Does spin control even work in the small world of wargaming?

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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did.  
   
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Chapel Hill, North Carolina

 Crablezworth wrote:
Man, this just sucks, btp look terrible here. The miniwargaming as a pr company side of this is surreal. Does spin control even work in the small world of wargaming?



Nope.


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 M0ff3l wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oIVA9DKIJM

According to this video the client and artist had a lot of contact about the minatures. They are keeping me updated with WIP and samples aswell, even tho I didnt ask for it. Maybe they learned from their mistakes here, which still sucks for Tenebre, and I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it...


No thanks. I refuse to give web traffic to black table drybrushing or mwg.

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 tenebre wrote:
my lord he is still trying to say i am making everything up? that BTP are saviors unto the gaming world and I am just some mean client who makes up stories to pick on the big company?

the levels of absurdity that would have to exist for this to be true...... I begged for months on end for communication and yet was ignored and even mocked (sending a picture of the bale tauras's butt when i asked for his face for 3 weeks straight)

i stand by that he is in league with them on some level. No normal person would ever support a random company with such fervor. Let alone accuse a client of just lying... which again makes no sense... the work speaks for itself.

also thanks for the ignore function mention.. i forgot it existed



Did you see the pic of his model being painted in the thread he started. By he's standard BTP DID do a great job on your models, so we can only guess what goes on in a mind like that. Best to leave it at "Well at least my thread help you and others get better service out of BTP, your welcome (insult from RED Dwarf here)."

Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.
Bob: Outrageous, How dare he say such blasphemy. I've got to do something.
Man #1: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.  
   
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Redondo Beach

 tenebre wrote:


I begged for months on end for communication and yet was ignored and even mocked (sending a picture of the bale tauras's butt when i asked for his face for 3 weeks straight)



this should be plastered all over the internet...
that is NOT the way a professional service should be treating their customers...
for the size, and expense, of the job you gave them, it should have come a little respect thrown in for free...

cheers
jah

Paint like ya got a pair!

Available for commissions.
 
   
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A customer will have no contract with the artist and nothing the customer says in phone calls will get forwarded to the artist? are these artist prisoners of some kind? Locked in a cell with models and request slid under the door with the evening meal?

I cannot think of a worse way to arrange commissions like this than removing all contact between the customer and the person doing the work.



 
   
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Sweden

The thing is that guy is full of gak. He constantly claims Ten is lying, he started up a project with BTP for the soul reason of trying to counter this thread. Not only does he bluntly consider everything bad about BTP to not be true he keeps suggesting that Ten lies or is stupid.. It is most likely he is employed by BTP or is a relative and thus anything I hear from him I consider useless..

An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.  
   
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Missouri

 carlos13th wrote:
A customer will have no contract with the artist and nothing the customer says in phone calls will get forwarded to the artist? are these artist prisoners of some kind?


I wouldn't be surprised, honestly.

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Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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Eye of Terror

 tenebre wrote:
my lord he is still trying to say i am making everything up? that BTP are saviors unto the gaming world and I am just some mean client who makes up stories to pick on the big company?

the levels of absurdity that would have to exist for this to be true...... I begged for months on end for communication and yet was ignored and even mocked (sending a picture of the bale tauras's butt when i asked for his face for 3 weeks straight)

i stand by that he is in league with them on some level. No normal person would ever support a random company with such fervor. Let alone accuse a client of just lying... which again makes no sense... the work speaks for itself.

also thanks for the ignore function mention.. i forgot it existed



As painful as it might be to read his posts, don't make too much of what M0ff3l has to say. No one else is.

M0ff3l has another thread going about how great it is working with BTP and showing off what they have done on his project. While I doubt he's aware, he's making your point for you.

   
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 M0ff3l wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
No M0ff3l, this is what I was reffering to:

 M0ff3l wrote:

Im sorry that im asking you for this much "evidence", but having to re-watch a 47 min video just to hear everything again and taking your word for it that its really what everything says. Thats just not how I think these sort of things should go. But Im sure these things will be 100% cleared up once legal action has been taken anyways, so you dont have to show me anything anyways.


Your attitude has been a constant in dismissing everything that has happened in light of Ten's order, and now you post with the coy post " I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be you attempting to gloat and continue to turn a blind eye to this.


Im sure you can understand my intentions better than that I intended them

my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!


And i'm sure if you understand that we'll all draw our own conclusions based on the volumes and volumes of writing you've done on the topic of Blue Table Painting, just the same. Just as you know your intentions, we can all read between lines. In any event, see you in your other thread with wonderfully positive edited emails lacking any kind of header verifying information at all. Which isn't suspect in the least!

... now before you hit that reply button, don't misconstrue my intentions!



... back on something approaching topic.... I really hope Ten gets some kind of restitution for all this. What a horrible situation. :(

edit: I would be highly skeptical of using Blue Table Painting for my own miniature painting service.


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 daedalus wrote:

I mean, it's Dakka. I thought snide arguments from emotion were what we did here.


 
   
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Eye of Terror

 jah-joshua wrote:
 tenebre wrote:


I begged for months on end for communication and yet was ignored and even mocked (sending a picture of the bale tauras's butt when i asked for his face for 3 weeks straight)



this should be plastered all over the internet...
that is NOT the way a professional service should be treating their customers...
for the size, and expense, of the job you gave them, it should have come a little respect thrown in for free...

cheers
jah


jah - I am a big fan of your work and really enjoy the images in your JAHminis thread. You are one of my five top painters right now, and I do follow many talented artists. Thank you for sharing!

Just wanted to point out this thread (and the one on Warseer) are in the top 10 results people see when searching for "blue table painting" on Google. Tenebre's original videos about the problems show up in the top 10 videos on the term 'blue table painting' on YouTube. This thread, plus tenebre's original videos, come up in the top 10 search results for the term "blue table painting." So this issue is plastered all over search engines, if not websites.

On the other hand: from what I can tell about traffic to Blue Table Painting's website, a lot of it is based on links back from a) blogs and b) natural search results off the term 'miniature painting service.' The company occupies the top spot for that term, and there are links back to the site on about 2,300 blogs. When I dug a little deeper, I can see how their SEO is working to achieve that top ranking, and I can see where there's been some reputation management going on to keep them there.

So there's a little misalignment. Anyone with an interest in ensuring this issue gets maximum visibility can take a few simple steps to change the situation.

1) Refer to the company as 'Blue Table Painting' - not 'BTP' - in your posts.

2) Refer to the company as a 'miniature painting service' at least once anywhere you post about the company.

3) Link back to this thread or the warseer thread from anywhere else on the Internet. Other forums are good, but blogs (especially on blogger and wordpress) will have the greatest impact on search engine placement. Anything that uses Disqus is going to provide a bump.

4) Include tenebre's videos in other forums. The placement of the videos a reciprocal impact on threads linking to them.

5) Favorite tenebre's original videos on YouTube. Favoriting the videos will reduce the placement decay that occurs as new videos are posted.

Just to be clear, it would not take a huge amount of activity to get this thread into the top search results for 'miniature painting service' by following this strategy. They have put a lot of work into getting that top spot, and it would not be that hard to piggy back off those efforts.

   
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Omadon's Realm

 M0ff3l wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
No M0ff3l, this is what I was reffering to:

 M0ff3l wrote:

Im sorry that im asking you for this much "evidence", but having to re-watch a 47 min video just to hear everything again and taking your word for it that its really what everything says. Thats just not how I think these sort of things should go. But Im sure these things will be 100% cleared up once legal action has been taken anyways, so you dont have to show me anything anyways.


Your attitude has been a constant in dismissing everything that has happened in light of Ten's order, and now you post with the coy post " I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be you attempting to gloat and continue to turn a blind eye to this.


Im sure you can understand my intentions better than that I intended them

my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!



You sir, are a fifth columnist and your indulgence in passive aggressive gloating and goading, immediately followed by dying swan routines every time you're confronted about it, does allow people to gauge your intentions fairly easily, indeed your entire character.

And none of it reads nicely.

Jog off out of this thread and keep to your own, you've made your point here ad nauseam and I was fairly certain you flounced out of here vowing never to return at least twice before... You're like a bloody stuck record. Go flutter your fan and sneer somewhere else.



 
   
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Eye of Terror

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
 M0ff3l wrote:
 RivenSkull wrote:
No M0ff3l, this is what I was reffering to:

 M0ff3l wrote:

Im sorry that im asking you for this much "evidence", but having to re-watch a 47 min video just to hear everything again and taking your word for it that its really what everything says. Thats just not how I think these sort of things should go. But Im sure these things will be 100% cleared up once legal action has been taken anyways, so you dont have to show me anything anyways.


Your attitude has been a constant in dismissing everything that has happened in light of Ten's order, and now you post with the coy post " I cant imagine why they didnt do it for him if he asked for it..." seems to be you attempting to gloat and continue to turn a blind eye to this.


Im sure you can understand my intentions better than that I intended them

my bad for trying to post updates here, I instantly regret it bye!



You sir, are a fifth columnist and your indulgence in passive aggressive gloating and goading, immediately followed by dying swan routines every time you're confronted about it, does allow people to gauge your intentions fairly easily, indeed your entire character.

And none of it reads nicely.

Jog off out of this thread and keep to your own, you've made your point here ad nauseam and I was fairly certain you flounced out of here vowing never to return at least twice before... You're like a bloody stuck record. Go flutter your fan and sneer somewhere else.


Actually, let M0ff3l comment and say thank you to him every time he takes the time to share his thoughts.

On the one hand, the pictures he is posting speak for themselves. On the other hand, there's a reason to have him posting here, which will become clear.

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Oxfordshire

I don't think it's been said for a page or two, so just in case any one forgot:

Tenebre, we love you for making the original post and videos. Most of us would not have the guts or constitution to do it (but then most of us wouldn't have had the cash to make the commission in the first place).
We have seen exaltations of peoples enjoyment of beautifully crafted miniatures, marvellously generous offers from painting studios and expert commentaries from professionals, all as a reaction to your unfortunate predicament.
While there may be a few who's intentions are to cause malice, take heart that the greater number of us wish you a speedy and positive resolution.

Thank you from all of us.
(edit: blue table miniature painting )

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 techsoldaten wrote:
 jah-joshua wrote:
 tenebre wrote:


I begged for months on end for communication and yet was ignored and even mocked (sending a picture of the bale tauras's butt when i asked for his face for 3 weeks straight)



this should be plastered all over the internet...
that is NOT the way a professional service should be treating their customers...
for the size, and expense, of the job you gave them, it should have come a little respect thrown in for free...

cheers
jah


jah - I am a big fan of your work and really enjoy the images in your JAHminis thread. You are one of my five top painters right now, and I do follow many talented artists. Thank you for sharing!

Just wanted to point out this thread (and the one on Warseer) are in the top 10 results people see when searching for "blue table painting" on Google. Tenebre's original videos about the problems show up in the top 10 videos on the term 'blue table painting' on YouTube. This thread, plus tenebre's original videos, come up in the top 10 search results for the term "blue table painting." So this issue is plastered all over search engines, if not websites.

On the other hand: from what I can tell about traffic to Blue Table Painting's website, a lot of it is based on links back from a) blogs and b) natural search results off the term 'miniature painting service.' The company occupies the top spot for that term, and there are links back to the site on about 2,300 blogs. When I dug a little deeper, I can see how their SEO is working to achieve that top ranking, and I can see where there's been some reputation management going on to keep them there.

So there's a little misalignment. Anyone with an interest in ensuring this issue gets maximum visibility can take a few simple steps to change the situation.

1) Refer to the company as 'Blue Table Painting' - not 'BTP' - in your posts.

2) Refer to the company as a 'miniature painting service' at least once anywhere you post about the company.

3) Link back to this thread or the warseer thread from anywhere else on the Internet. Other forums are good, but blogs (especially on blogger and wordpress) will have the greatest impact on search engine placement. Anything that uses Disqus is going to provide a bump.

4) Include tenebre's videos in other forums. The placement of the videos a reciprocal impact on threads linking to them.

5) Favorite tenebre's original videos on YouTube. Favoriting the videos will reduce the placement decay that occurs as new videos are posted.

Just to be clear, it would not take a huge amount of activity to get this thread into the top search results for 'miniature painting service' by following this strategy. They have put a lot of work into getting that top spot, and it would not be that hard to piggy back off those efforts.



Thanks for pointing this out ; edited my post a few up so that i actually spelled Blue Table Painting and not BTP (which, by the by, stands for Blue Table Painting).

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 daedalus wrote:

I mean, it's Dakka. I thought snide arguments from emotion were what we did here.


 
   
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@techsoldaten: thanks for the high praise...
i can easily count off at least ten painters who are WAY better than me, just off the top of my head...
that said, i work very hard to improve with each mini i paint, and hope that, over the last ten years, i have achieved a personal style of painting that is easily recognizable when i post a mini...

@tenebre: thanks for posting in my WIP thread...
it's always nice to have collectors aware of my work...
i hope that, one day, i can paint an HQ model for you, and show you what an actual award winning, industry professional painter's minis look like in hand...
hell, i might even throw you one WIP shot during the process...
i can't promise it won't be a shot of a Bull Taurus' arse though...
hahahahaha

cheers
jah



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I think the most disturbing take away for me is the the owner of blue table painting suggesting he may have to fire people, like that somehow fixes his client's frustration with the horrid treatment. The owner of blue table painting just comes off as passive agressive with the suggestion of flying out a painter, and the constant delaying with casual inference that his client should somehow feel bad and other people really seem to like their models. All of this just seems like customer service 101 and the owner seems like an inept middle manager with a questionable ability to prioritize. The very fact that one party wanted the video taken down is also just puzzling, streisand is here to stay.

Art, choice of color, conversions, concepts, all subjective. But there was a lot of feedback from the client that was not being heard and communication with specific instructions are not hard to verify. Tenebre not only has gone into great detail, he also says what he likes as well. The other side basically seems like the infamous episode of a certain television show. It's hidden under painful hr speak but someone who usually is used to being mr bossy pants now has to put on the customer service hat and eat gak over poorly handled service.

Spoiler:


One does not simply criticize blue table painting

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