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buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

We are not sure yet until more people see the WD or get the Codex itself in hand. Even then, do they even ever say that a Codex replaces another Codex somewhere in the book itself? I don't think they ever specifically say it replaces anything.


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Mymearan wrote:

buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

100% yes

Proof, please.

buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

If you are seeing scatterlasers on jetbikes and rumors of WK being a GC, then I highly doubt the old codex Eldar will still be valid.

rollawaythestone wrote:

buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

We are not sure yet until more people see the WD or get the Codex itself in hand. Even then, do they even ever say that a Codex replaces another Codex somewhere in the book itself? I don't think they ever specifically say it replaces anything.


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Mymearan wrote:

buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

100% yes

Proof, please.

Only one thing to say.. Denial is not a river in Egypt..

Pdogg614 wrote:
8 S:6 shots at a different target than the 2 S heavy wraithcannons will be nice.

That's assuming scatter lasers stay the same. It's already mentioned that they've lost laser-lock.

rollawaythestone wrote:

buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

We are not sure yet until more people see the WD or get the Codex itself in hand. Even then, do they even ever say that a Codex replaces another Codex somewhere in the book itself? I don't think they ever specifically say it replaces anything.


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Mymearan wrote:

buckero0 wrote:
So is this craftworld dex replacing the 6th edition codex? Are we sure on that? I'm just trying to clarify.

100% yes

Proof, please.

1) The book is taken down from the website.
2) If it has statlines for models with the same detachment, it replaces it. From the rumors, this is true.

It's 160 pages. You cannot buy the "current" codex anymore from GW. What more proof do you expect? Unless you think you can still run 5th ed IG dex because new one is Astra Militarum, or old BA because new one is Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels.

You guys misunderstand. I totally believe the Codex is being replaced. But until we see it, isn't it a little rash to say "100% proven"?

rollawaythestone wrote:
You guys misunderstand. I totally believe the Codex is being replaced. But until we see it, isn't it a little rash to say "100% proven"?

Not for anyone who knows what deductive reasoning is.

But you have to admit that it's a pretty strong indicator...

Requizen wrote:

rollawaythestone wrote:
You guys misunderstand. I totally believe the Codex is being replaced. But until we see it, isn't it a little rash to say "100% proven"?

Not for anyone who knows what deductive reasoning is.

Neither do you apparently, because this is inductive reasoning...

He's not saying "I don't believe it", he's asking "did I miss a leak?".

rollawaythestone wrote:
You guys misunderstand. I totally believe the Codex is being replaced. But until we see it, isn't it a little rash to say "100% proven"?

It's really, really easy, buddy.

1. Go to GW's website. Click 40k. Click Book Format. Click Printed Books (or eBooks).
2. Scroll up to the factions.

See how there's no Eldar? In a few days, there will be an Eldar checkbox again, and when you click it, you will see Codex: Eldar Craftworlds, the special edition, and other language editions in jurisdictions where books are released in more than one language (like Canada).

The fact that you can't purchase it now -- ** not even as an eBook ** -- is as much proof as any person could reasonably expect. Besides, what else is going to be in 168 pages?

If you want to say, well, that's not good enough -- you'd have to also claim that the rumors are just rumors, and screenshots and photo of the models and the book cover at http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/boom-eldar-minis-at-last.html is a fake.

Seriously... what more do you want than:

Any word on if my terminators still have to cower in fear from basic eldar troops? (Aka do they still have pseudo rending on shurikens?)

I'd be happy to see that ability take a long vacation.

niv-mizzet wrote:
Any word on if my terminators still have to cower in fear from basic eldar troops? (Aka do they still have pseudo rending on shurikens?)

Probably will based on Harlequins having it.

rollawaythestone wrote:

Requizen wrote:

rollawaythestone wrote:
You guys misunderstand. I totally believe the Codex is being replaced. But until we see it, isn't it a little rash to say "100% proven"?

Not for anyone who knows what deductive reasoning is.

Neither do you apparently, because this is inductive reasoning...

If it were inductive reasoning, one would observe evidence and draw a conclusion, which is probable but not certain.
If it were deductive reasoning, one would observe evidence (photos of ordering lists, book covers, models), which if you assume are true, the conclusion MUST also be true.

I would argue the latter, as I do not know how anyone who plays 40k to interpret a book that reads, "Codex Eldar: Craftworlds" to be anything other than the Codex for Eldar Craftworlds, and a replace meant for the old Codex: Eldar, which was a Codex about... you guessed it, Eldar on Craftworlds.

Im betting battle focus is gone however.

Battle focus probably goes to a Command Benefit for Decurion/Formations

I hope not, Eldar infantry are pretty lackluster in most cases (the OP reputation of the codex rests more on wave serpents and wraith units) and that rule makes them more fun to play and is very characterful.

 FTGTEvan wrote:
Battle focus probably goes to a Command Benefit for Decurion/Formations

Your probably on to something.

rollawaythestone wrote:

Requizen wrote:

rollawaythestone wrote:
You guys misunderstand. I totally believe the Codex is being replaced. But until we see it, isn't it a little rash to say "100% proven"?

Not for anyone who knows what deductive reasoning is.

Neither do you apparently, because this is inductive reasoning...

Burn.

niv-mizzet wrote:
Any word on if my terminators still have to cower in fear from basic eldar troops? (Aka do they still have pseudo rending on shurikens?)

I'd be happy to see that ability take a long vacation.

Considering how much AP2 Eldar have in addition to bladestorm, termies will ALWAYS cower in fear from Eldar (or carry stormshields).

So were seeing buffs in certain places but no nerfs to speak of thus far?

Laser lock is gone.

 I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:
I hope not, Eldar infantry are pretty lackluster in most cases (the OP reputation of the codex rests more on wave serpents and wraith units) and that rule makes them more fun to play and is very characterful.

I beg to differ, having the ability to shoot 2 rending shots at BS4 and then run back with a reroll from fleet + overwatch was ridiculously imbalanced verse assault armies since your killing them back a few inches then running an average of 4 more back meaning they generally need to forgo their own shooting AND roll a 12" assault IF they survive overwatch. Especially when you look at how cheap the infantry is. DA are even more disturbing.

They either need to lose BS4 (not rumored) faux rending (not gona happen, harlequins have it) or lose the universal shoot and scoot. I am betting they flat lose it, or at least am hoping, and I love guardians. It's currently insane though.

Distortion Weapon = D-Weapon

Maybe something was lost in translation there, because if so, Wraithguard are going to be out of control.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Laser lock is gone.

That remedies serpent shields some already.

A d weapon on a normal infantry unit sounds a little too strong

But yea, all we've seen so far is buffs, which is strange, cause Eldar certainly didnt need to get better

 Thokt wrote:
Distortion Weapon = D-Weapon

Maybe something was lost in translation there, because if so, Wraithguard are going to be out of control.

They needed to find a way to counter repair protocols...


Remember the old lady that swallowed the fly?

I just want to say, for a company that says they are a model company and dosen't think the public buys their models for any other reason than the joy of de-spruing them and painting them, they sure make alot of books.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
A d weapon on a normal infantry unit sounds a little too strong

But yea, all we've seen so far is buffs, which is strange, cause Eldar certainly didnt need to get better

It might be nerfs in the form of points cost for key units. Plus, we still haven't heard what's up with the serpent shield.