Silliest Primarch name

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**Gridge**

Instead of trying to tell everyone that their opinion is wrong if they disagree, I'll simply state that Lion El'Jonson is the worst for me. Though I find nearly all of the primarch names to be uninspired this one takes the cake. Being a mixed up normal name just makes it sound wrong, and since I know it is a reference to Lionel Jonson that's what I see whenever I look at it. I don't care what sort of life the poet led, or the titles of his writings, the name is just too mundane to befit a primarch. Why the creators couldn't be more creative and come up with some unique, or at least more inspired, names is beyond me. I put more effort into naming the characters in my army than I believe the early writers spent in their work.

**MagicJuggler**

I'm pleased that Ferrus Manus is winning. I blame /tg/ for pointing it out:

"Hi there. My name is Iron Hand and my Legion is called the Iron Hands. Why, you ask? Because I have iron hands."

**SirDonlad**

Owain wrote:
Ferrus Manus' name makes me cringe every time I see it. It's one of the most blatant examples of Dog Latin in the entire 40k universe. I'm not entirely sure what the proper Latin grammar would be, but I know "ferrum" is the base form of "iron" and that it would have to be conjugated to be descriptive of the "manus". I believe that would be "manus ferri" or something similar. "Ferrus Manus" translates to something like "the iron the hand".

Also, why would people whine about Sanguinius' name having ties to vampires? There are canon BA models with POINTED FANGS. It's their motif, for crying out loud. I'm also surprised at how many votes Lion El'Jonson got, though I suppose that could be fanboy bias on my part. Having studied linguistics, it's a pretty reasonable corruption/evolution of Leon Johnson/Leon DeForest/Leon DuBois or what have you. I also get pretty sick of hearing about Lionel Johnson's homosexuality in relation to the setting. Not because the idea offends me, but because it has nothing to do with its role in inspiring the chapter background. People only choose to snipe about that part because they childishly find gay stuff funny; the poem is probably about his sexuality and alcoholism in equal measure, and you don't hear the latter brought up very much, at least not in this context. Regardless of what inspired the real-life author, if you actually read the work, it goes well with the I Legion's theme of haunting irredeemable guilt.

wasn't that poem called 'the dark angel'?

**Eadartri**

Go Ferrus Manus!

Quies Faba would also be a good Primarch name.

**Da Ork Killa**

Ferrus and Lion. I voted for Lion. The rest of the names are awesome.

**Beaviz81**

What the hell? Only 25 votes for Perturbo the grumpy Primarch. I mean I have Robute Guilliman at second and well Primarch Iron Hands leading the legion Iron Hands is basically so bad its good-territory. But comeon, Perturbo which closest word is pertubalent should win this.

**SisterSydney**

Khonsu wrote:
My favorite Legion are the Iron Warriors, But come on.... Perturabo? Really?

It might be an Aleister Crowley reference, of all things. I stumbled upon this today by chance:

Crowley was initiated into the Outer Order of the Golden Dawn on 18 November 1898 by the group's leader, Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers. The ceremony took place at the Isis-Urania Temple in London's Mark Masons Hall, where Crowley accepted his motto and magical name of "Frater Perdurabo", a Latin term meaning "Brother I shall endure to the end"...

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

**aw_man**

Ferrus Mannus, and Lion El'Johnson? Those are arguable just on the grounds of spelling and possibly associations. But counter that with cool background in terms of the meaning and fluff as well.

I am super disappoint that Rowboat Girlyman is not winning this poll in a landslide.

Just saying that name out loud, makes me feel like correcting myself as saying "rudebutt gilly-man"

**Beaviz81**

aw_man wrote:
Ferrus Mannus, and Lion El'Johnson? Those are arguable just on the grounds of spelling and possibly associations. But counter that with cool background in terms of the meaning and fluff as well.

I am super disappoint that Rowboat Girlyman is not winning this poll in a landslide.

Just saying that name out loud, makes me feel like correcting myself as saying "rudebutt gilly-man"

Haha, thats an excellent pun in order to get in the face of his rabid fans.

**DoomShakaLaka**

Hey I'm not rabid! I just really like the Ultramarines, because they are the awesomest of the space marines who are the awesomest faction in 40k because of their armor and super strength.... and.... and... they spit acid, and they have chainsaw swords and....and they don't wear hemets....

<begins frothing at the mouth>

**Jambles**

Lord Blackscale wrote:
And here I thought the DA primarch eas named ofter the model train company. Well, I will just keep calling him Lion-o.

Dark Angels, hoooooo

**Kommissar Kel**

Don't care about /tg/, but voted iron hands due to knowing latin.

Would almost have voted for the twins because that whole bit is completely flipper-baby: look I have made 20 primarchs! But sire there are 21 tubes" oh, those 2 are twins(alternatively "but sire there are 2 in That tube")

Why are their 21 Primarchs?

**Hawehu@hotmail.com**

I start by apologising if it gas been said already, because i only read first page.

I beilieve their names are describing their nature so aptly, because they did not get their names at birth.

They got their names through their reputation.
Just like so many other iconic figures of all times, they have a nickname, that describe some distinguished form of their nature.

It makes sense to me atleast.

Like if your neighbor is always angry, the kids might start calling him angron amongst themselves.

If your neighbor has a wooden leg, they would call him woody or oneleg or something.

**Beaviz81**

If I take your word for it you mean basically the Primarches allowed people to pin all manner of ridiculous nicks on them.

And no, if I had a one-eyed neighbor I would never fathom calling him or her one-eye.

**j31c3n**

I think a better question is "which primarchs DON'T have silly names?"

Rogal Dorn, Guilliman, Fulgrim, Magnus, Lorgar.

All the others are varying degrees of ridiculous.

**Beaviz81**

Would you name your child Rogal, Robute, Fulgrim or Lorgar deliberately? The only Primarch with a name which is normal is Magnus. The rest would face one hell of a bullying due to name.

**nareik**

j31c3n wrote:
Rogal Dorn

His first name is a portmanteau of Regal and Royal, synonyms of imperial. His second name is the Irish word for 'fist'.

https://glosbe.com/ga/en/dorn

Rogal Dorn's name is Imperial Fist.

**Lord Blackscale**

So we have Iron Hand, of the Iron Hands, and Imperial FIst, of the Imperial Fists. lol

And for record, I strongly disagree that Kurze's name is silly.

**ImAGeek**

Konrad Curze isn't really silly no, I agree.

**Redcruisair**

But neither is Roboute guilliman.

**Beaviz81**

Konrad Curze sounds like a fastfood-chain.

As for Robute Guilliman, comeon its a goofy name Rowboat Girliman.

**j31c3n**

Beaviz81 wrote:
Would you name your child Rogal, Robute, Fulgrim or Lorgar deliberately? The only Primarch with a name which is normal is Magnus. The rest would face one hell of a bullying due to name.

I would. That's why I don't have kids.

nareik wrote:
His first name is a portmanteau of Regal and Royal, synonyms of imperial. His second name is the Irish word for 'fist'.

That's... very disappointing. It's really too bad GW can't/won't change the names of the Primarchs.

And Kurze isn't a silly name either, my mind tends to forget about most of the traitor Primarchs.

There's a lot of names that aren't so much silly as they are contrived.

**Anfauglir**

Lionel Johnson.

**Furyou Miko**

j31c3n wrote:
I think a better question is "which primarchs DON'T have silly names?"

Rogal Dorn, Guilliman, Fulgrim, Magnus, Lorgar.

All the others are varying degrees of ridiculous.

Magnus?

Sure, its a real name, but... Magnus?

For a big guy with magic? Magnus meaning Big and being one letter away from Magus?

**triplegrim**

Most of them are silly, but Alpharius Omegon gets my vote. Its bad dog latin and much more recognizable than Ferrus Manus I think. Corvus Corax, is a close second for me.

Has it occured to anyone that Leman Russ is for Aleman Russ, that is German Russian in french?

I am suprised at all the hate towards Lion El'Johnson and Roboute Guillmann, at least they sound like names someone could have. I always figured people would be called Johnson even in the far future when I read those names.

**Sgt_Smudge**

I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

**Beaviz81**

Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

You see hatred like small girls see unicorns. Except Magnus each Primarch had exceptionally stupid names, and Robute is up there in the top three.

**Sgt_Smudge**

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Beaviz81 wrote:
Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

You see hatred like small girls see unicorns. Except Magnus each Primarch had exceptionally stupid names, and Robute is up there in the top three.

Actually, I find Magnus' name to be a rather stupid name itself, more stupid than Guilliman's, but that's just my two cents.

**Beaviz81**

Sgt_Smudge wrote:
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Beaviz81 wrote:
Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

You see hatred like small girls see unicorns. Except Magnus each Primarch had exceptionally stupid names, and Robute is up there in the top three.

Actually, I find Magnus' name to be a rather stupid name itself, more stupid than Guilliman's, but that's just my two cents.

In my country Magnus is a perfectly normal name. I have actually known guys named Magnus. Robute on the other hand...

**Sgt_Smudge**

Beaviz81 wrote:
Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:

Beaviz81 wrote:
Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

You see hatred like small girls see unicorns. Except Magnus each Primarch had exceptionally stupid names, and Robute is up there in the top three.

Actually, I find Magnus' name to be a rather stupid name itself, more stupid than Guilliman's, but that's just my two cents.

In my country Magnus is a perfectly normal name. I have actually known guys named Magnus. Robute on the other hand...

Fair enough, I could say I'm opposite!