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I think I'll be buying it anyway.

Assassins are one of my favourite factions in the setting.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I think I'll be buying it anyway.

Assassins are one of my favourite factions in the setting.

Me too. They have great fluff, sweet models, and they can always earn their meal ticket -- Culexus and Callidus have crazy powerful rules.

If they weren't Character, they would be massively overpowered. Can you imagine an army of assassins? Would be so cool.

I feel like this game is going to end up like Dreadfleet. A loss for GW, especially at that price. I am sure a lot of people will wait for the plastics to be released later. Overall I think the new Assassins are pretty poor in comparison to some of GW's newer plastics.

For those with access to the assassin codex/dataslate/whatever released last year, are the rules in the White Dwarf the same or did they just invalidate a one year old product?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/grimdark-assassin-wargear-more.html

It really does seem like a board game marketed for 40k players. Which is why I still don't understand the inclusion of new baddies.

For the price it would have been nice to see more new models included. This kind of reminds me of those old smaller gateway boxed games GW used to make that used all their surplus stuff- Mighty Warriors, Ultra Marines, Space Fleet and the like... but those games were a heck of a lot cheaper for a lot of previously released models (and a game to go with them).

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It really does seem like a board game marketed for 40k players. Which is why I still don't understand the inclusion of new baddies.

I don't think there are any new 'baddies'...

It would have been nice if they gave us a Terminator Lord in the style of the DV marines but sadly they didn't.

Reading the WD scans it seems like the Sorcerer Lord has been given a name and seems to be Crimson Slaughter. So I guess he's new in a way, probably not very memorable.

175$? Other boards games offer quite a bit more value for often less. With taxes, that thing will cost more than 200$.

 warboss wrote:
For those with access to the assassin codex/dataslate/whatever released last year, are the rules in the White Dwarf the same or did they just invalidate a one year old product?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/grimdark-assassin-wargear-more.html

The rules are in the new WD, along with a new formation (just one of each). Obviously it doesn't have the fluff at the beginning of the dataslate.

At a glance, it looks pretty similar, including the special weapons and special abilities, but I didn't have time to compare them closely... family time now ;D

Random boards ont the way to a single objective room?

This is Warhammer 40,000 Quest: Lite.

No worries, thanks for looking. Even if only one item is different, it would still end up replacing that product in only a year barring a Forgeworld style faq which frankly isn't GW main's thing. Let us know if something different catches your eye.

This would have been a perfect opportunity for Genestealer Cult models. A Magos (Sorcerer Lord), some Cultists, and a few Hybrids (Chaos Marines).

Alas...

~Eric

Nocturnus wrote:
I feel like this game is going to end up like Dreadfleet. A loss for GW, especially at that price.

The fact that it comes with plastics usable in 40K already elevates it beyond Dreadfleet. Dreadfleet was a game no one asked for in a scale no one wanted, unrelated to any other game besides setting. This game does not have that burden.

 Taarnak wrote:
This would have been a perfect opportunity for Genestealer Cult models. A Magos (Sorcerer Lord), some Cultists, and a few Hybrids (Chaos Marines).

They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

so is the belief that they will release the assassins by themselves later? they wont make them limited in order for me to buy this set?

Having looked through the new updates, I have to say I love the assassins and that's about it. I don't know if there is even interest in my gaming group to want to play this more than once to justify its purchase.

Hm, that price for only a few new figures where the rest are old designs? i think i pass

I'm looking forward to it . Love how it's a co op game .

Part of the issue with the pricing here is GW (as usual) not really understanding the world market.

£75 for a big, decent boardgame with lots of high-end components is still pretty high by UK prices. But, like, Chaos in the Old World is at least £40 here. So, if this game is on a par with CitOW (unlikely!), and comes with a bunch of decent 40K minis, this sounds sort of like a bargain, at only £35 more (we are perhaps charitably ignoring the fact that this is probably not that big and probably does not have that many high-end components).

$124 for a big, decent boardgame with lots of high-end components is outrageously high by US prices though. Using the standard CitOW pricing metric... that game is $42 in the USA. Is the Assassins game worth three times the price? Probably not. Definitely not to a boardgames fan, and probably not even to a boardgames AND 40K fan.

Pricing is bananas on this one, and I'm not adverse to throwing money at GW.
Hopefully we see seperate releases of the assassins down the road so I can pick up the two good sculpts, I'm not holding my breath though.
Every time I think GW have started moving in a positive new direction they manage to make me think they are just throwing gak at the wall to see what sticks.

Standard chaos models? Seems lazy.

God damn it. I was looking forward to a nice independent experience to ease myself and some new friends into the hobby.

I guess I have a related question: is the 2014 Space Hulk worth $190 as a stand alone game? Is it any better than the Assassins?

Apparently the Aussie price is $210 the US price is $125 that's more than Space Hulk?

Wow, GW isn't even trying anymore. Lazy ripoff.

 warboss wrote:
For those with access to the assassin codex/dataslate/whatever released last year, are the rules in the White Dwarf the same or did they just invalidate a one year old product?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/grimdark-assassin-wargear-more.html

I compared it yesterday and cant find any differences, aside from the layout and model photos. Even the formation is identical.

£75 for four Assassins is how I look at this. I think it's how a lot of people will look at it, and that is a worse deal than Blood Knights.

This is what a £75 board game should match up to in terms of miniature content:

 Taarnak wrote:
This would have been a perfect opportunity for Genestealer Cult models. A Magos (Sorcerer Lord), some Cultists, and a few Hybrids (Chaos Marines).

Oh yes. Even though I sold off my last 40K stuff just a few weeks ago, such a thing could honestly have brought me back into the fold; not only would I have bought the game, but knowing myself would probably also have ended up toying with the idea of starting afresh and collecting up a genestealer cult army...

Stealer cult is rumoured (bit salty at the moment) to come out this year anyways so you may yet make a return to the fold Trodax lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Stealer cult is rumoured (bit salty at the moment) to come out this year anyways so you may yet make a return to the fold Trodax lol.

Aaah, that I did not know. Crap.

Two board pieces?! BARGAIN.

From Natfka:

Here is a link to the leaked images. Thanks to aracersss for pointing them out to us

http://imgur.com/a/5npGV

 DarkHound wrote:
God damn it. I was looking forward to a nice independent experience to ease myself and some new friends into the hobby.

I guess I have a related question: is the 2014 Space Hulk worth $190 as a stand alone game? Is it any better than the Assassins?

That s rather a lot more than the RRP. However, The miniatures are stunning (even the object markers are really nice), the tiles are top quality as the rules themselves are great, very tense thanks to actual time limits on the Marine turn and fact that you never tell how many 'Stealers are under a 'blip' counter until you see them (nothing scarier than turning a corner and flipping a pair of 3-Stealer tokens, then watching helplessly as your Terminator becomes lunch!).

It doesn't even bear comparison to this Assassin mission, which is worth maybe half the asking price. If you see SH, can afford it, and want get into 40k while also getting a great board game, I thoroughly recommend it!