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**Theophony**

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
It's odd, they don't show the miniatures in the material/quality they sell them in.

I would back the KS mainly for the minis, but that move makes it look very dodgy.

It's not coming for a year yet, so they have the resin masters not the final materials because they haven't produced them yet. It could look dodgy IF it was a first Kickstarter by an unknown company, but they have 25+ delivered or being delivered currently, so I think dodgy is not the best wording. Plus they haven't changed materials without warning like Mantic or other people.

**Bossk_Hogg**

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
It's odd, they don't show the miniatures in the material/quality they sell them in.

I would back the KS mainly for the minis, but that move makes it look very dodgy.

Eh, they've done a gazillion of these things, and have gotten better with each release. Their material/quality is pretty well known at this point. Is there any reason to suspect these wont be on par with Black Plague?

**Rezyn**

I backed it. Just couldn't pass it up. Not sure I will ever paint up to a standard I believe would do those models justice... but either way I am happy I got it.

Now we wait..

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

I have a question: for the World of Smog game have they shown the final versions of miniatures, or resin masters as well?

Because there were a lot of cracks and rough edges in the shown examples.

If they were the final version, that`s sad and it`s weird, that they had them for that game during/before KS, but not for "Rising sun".
And if it was masters, that is sadder yet.

**Gomez**

Originally figured I'd pass on "Blood Rage: Japan" - though BR is indeed awesome, I figured I didn't need another version. Now, after seeing the sculpts and how they've tweaked the original, I'm totally in.

**Bossk_Hogg**

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I have a question: for the World of Smog game have they shown the final versions of miniatures, or resin masters as well?

Because there were a lot of cracks and rough edges in the shown examples.

If they were the final version, that`s sad and it`s weird, that they had them for that game during/before KS, but not for "Rising sun".
And if it was masters, that is sadder yet.

The only rough ones I recall were a couple in this update... in particular something pretty clearly went wrong on the Captain ally figure, as it looks like garbage.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/the-world-of-smog-rise-of-moloch/posts/1793929

I think the ones in Smod were a mix of resin, render, and a few production samples. Some are separate from the base, which seems to me they are a resin master or printed prototype. Definitely not a production model.

**mdauben**

Pacific wrote:
Re. the miniatures comments, I'm amazed at how derogatory the comments are towards some of the more recent board game miniature quality. In my view in some cases they have taken massive steps forward, and for anyone of moderate painting ability carries more than enough detail to result in an impressive looking piece (be it for wargaming or a board game). I'm thinking here of the likes of Zombicide BP and Conan. Check out some of the gallery and threat posts by the likes of AAN on this forum.

I only say this because you might get a number of people who haven't seen for themself, go away thinking "well that won't be as good as my space marines I won't bother", when in actual fact it isn't the case a lot of the time.

There's a fellow who goes by the name of Sorastro on his YouTube channel who is does series of tutorials on painting the miniatures from the Descent: Journeys in The Dark, Star Wars: Imperial Assault, and Zombicide: Black Plague board games. He produces some really amazing results with those figures.

**ced1106**

Gomez wrote:
Originally figured I'd pass on "Blood Rage: Japan" - though BR is indeed awesome, I figured I didn't need another version. Now, after seeing the sculpts and how they've tweaked the original, I'm totally in.

It's not Blood Rage. Same game designer. I think he used "spiritual successor to BR" wrong. Anyway, the CMON blog has plenty of game overview to read: https://cmon.com/news/the-battle-system-of-rising-sun

**spiralingcadaver**

No, pretty sure it's correct usage-- something that's not directly related but another thing with a similar feel. Sounds like the BR/RS relationship to me.

**ced1106**

Eric's use of "spiritual successor" has been causing quite a bit of confusion how the game plays (seen it on BGG, Dakka, and BoW).

"A lot of the same figures, a lot of the same general type of components but it's going to be a very very different type of game." https://boardgamegeek.com/article/25284333#25284333

It *is* a loose term, and I think it would have been better if he didn't use it.

**yamato**

This thing is just starting to slow down after a day and half,...... over $1.6 million!

I must say; I was worried that I would not like the game because,.... I loooooove feudal Japan,.... but it looks like a blast, and has a set game length, no player elimination, etc.

Of course the minis are beautiful. I'm more encouraged that there seems to be a good game in there as well (though you wouldn't know it from the useless game play video that they have included,..... get it together CMON,... your game play video's SUCK!)

Oh my,..... a turtle fortress?

**ced1106**

One of the game mechanisms is that you choose another player as an ally, and he receives benefits as well. Interesting way for players behind to catch up. Unless you want to play squash the beta!

**Pacific**

That turtle fortress is a close run-in for the coolest miniature I have seen this year, along with medieval-era Batman!

What kind of size is it?

**Ian Sturrock**

I'm pretty sure the turtle fortress is tiny. It's not going to be in the same scale as the other minis, but rather, in the same scale as the other fortresses. Gorgeous though! Maybe we can persuade them to give us one giant one as a stretch goal.

**Mutter**

Who predicted the Fox clan?

**yamato**

New updated pledge image,..... love the new clan,.... but that is a tough spot on the map. I'm hopeful that there will eventually be a clan for all 8 map areas,.... prepare for add ons once this slows down a bit more. Maybe a week or so from now?

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18 Monsters so far!1111

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And the orange Fox clan is on deck:

**mdauben**

yamato wrote:
New updated pledge image,.....

The KS website states that the KS exclusive Phoenix figure is included with the $100 pledge.

Rising Sun Kickstarter page wrote:For $100 the Daimyo Pledge gets you a Rising Sun core game as well as the Kickstarter Exclusive Phoenix monster, and any stretch goals we manage to unlock!

This graphic you posted seems to indicate otherwise.

**deleted20250424**

What?

It shows exactly that....

I'm confused.

**yamato**

Yeah,... you get everything in the picture,....

The Phoenix is there

**ced1106**

Gameplay summaries posted on BGG:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1741858/game-overview-what-we-know-so-far

Designer comments:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1742058/summary-designer-comments-bgg

Ally mechanism:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1741944/if-2-players-can-be-allies-how-does-game-work-unev

**BobtheInquisitor**

Does anyone know if they accept late pledges or for people to pledge a dollar and upgrade in the PM? Is piggybacking onto another order possible? Please help me out; I haven't CMONed since Sedition Wars...

**JohnHwangDD**

The minis look fantastic. If I were doing a Mystic Japan game, I'd definitely get this for the minis. However, the board looks small, and the 3+ Diplomacy design makes it unlikely to see play. :(

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

They'll let you upgrade from $1 in the PM (do so if you can so you'll get the updates and the chance to post in the KS if you need to later),

They'll let you late pledge too

the one thing you won't be able to do is get any add ons (if we see any for this one) without first pledging for full game

(piggy backing is fine for add ons as they won't change the shipping much if at all, but probably not worth it for the full game as shipping will go up significantly, its no longer a flat $25 for as much booty as you want)

**BobtheInquisitor**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
They'll let you upgrade from $1 in the PM (do so if you can so you'll get the updates and the chance to post in the KS if you need to later),

They'll let you late pledge too

the one thing you won't be able to do is get any add ons (if we see any for this one) without first pledging for full game

(piggy backing is fine for add ons as they won't change the shipping much if at all, but probably not worth it for the full game as shipping will go up significantly, its no longer a flat $25 for as much booty as you want)

They'll let me get the full $100 pledge, including the exclusives like Notzilla? For this, I'd be after the main pledge...when I can afford it.

**JohnHwangDD**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They'll let me get the full $100 pledge, including the exclusives like Notzilla?

Yup, that's exactly right. As far as I know, Late Pledge is the same as regular pledge content, but it doesn't drive backer count or SG revenue.

**realmbuilderproductions**

Wasn't thinking I would back this when the initial buzz started on this a while back. Took a look after the KS launched and couldn't resist. Looking forward to seeing the finished figs. Blood Rage figs were great so hopefully they stack up to that bar or higher.

**mdauben**

TalonZahn wrote:
What?

It shows exactly that....

I'm confused.

D'oh! My mistake, I misunderstood the picture. I thought the stuff listed under "Extras" were extra cost add ons, not stretch goal freebies added to the $100 pledge package.

**BigOscar**

Beautiful figures, absolutely stunning. Unfortunately the figures are a bit too intricate for me, I don't think I could do them justice, Blood Rage was exhausting enough. Probably should be saving me pennies for my wedding anyway, but still very tempting...

**JohnHwangDD**

BigOscar wrote:
Beautiful figures, absolutely stunning. Unfortunately the figures are a bit too intricate for me, I don't think I could do them justice, Blood Rage was exhausting enough. Probably should be saving me pennies for my wedding anyway, but still very tempting...

Get them as the cake toppers!

**BigOscar**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
BigOscar wrote:
Beautiful figures, absolutely stunning. Unfortunately the figures are a bit too intricate for me, I don't think I could do them justice, Blood Rage was exhausting enough. Probably should be saving me pennies for my wedding anyway, but still very tempting...

Get them as the cake toppers!

Ha, I'm pretty sneaky with making excuses to buy things I want, but I think I might struggle with that one! (especially considering they wouldn't arrive even close to In time!) I've already been told to stop buying more figures until at least paint some of the others I have, so I'm trying to be good. We'll see how long that lasts though, once were married there's really not a whole lot she can do, she's stuck with me and my endless pile of unpainted minis