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SeanDrake wrote:

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Very interesting to see the preorders on Wayland saying the recommended prices for expansions are £27.99 given they're $24.95.

That's enough to make me go "probably not".

Well maybe that does not factor in the inital price drop or it could be thanks to the drop in sterling which was going to hit at some point.

They might just be basing it on when the game is released, and the value of the brexit Peso has dropped below 1 US$

Wayland responded by saying it's the price set by the UK distributor (due to tax and import charges), and that I'm welcome to purchase it from outside of the UK instead.

I think it is an atrocious price for 5 cavalry/5 command/10 infantry non-posable, pre-assembled kits of yet unknown quality. But we all know that it is the cards and the wheel that FF is truly selling to its audience

£100?

£100?

For that?

£100?

Is it made out of Unicorn Pelt and Crack Cocaine?

£100?????

I, for one, welcome our new Asmodee overlords ...

For that price, I can get waaaaaay more AoS stuff. WAY MORE. Even before any online discount, AoS is only £75, has more models (better? YMMV, but I feel so).

Considering this is clearly a ahem discounted 'bargain' starter set, it's an absolute joke.

The models look gash, and they're pre-painted.

And they want £100 for it? £100???? For a game format that even the industry leader had to give up due to flagging sales?



Are they mad?

They're not prepainted.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
For that price, I can get waaaaaay more AoS stuff. WAY MORE. Even before any online discount, AoS is only £75, has more models (better? YMMV, but I feel so).

Considering this is clearly a ahem discounted 'bargain' starter set, it's an absolute joke.

The models look gash, and they're pre-painted.

And they want £100 for it? £100???? For a game format that even the industry leader had to give up due to flagging sales?



Are they mad?

The flagging sales weren't primarily a fault of the game format but rather due to the market leader's rules being crap.

But I agree that I don't see this game taking off with those prices.

Also, the minis aren't prepainted I think? If they'd been, at that quality of painting, I think the game would have a lot better potential to find it's niche.

Seems it's not pre-painted. My bad.

Models are still crap to mediocre, and laughably expensive for what you get.

And they see it scaling from Skirmish to mass battles? Really don't see that happening.

I do like the skelletons' look, plus one of the necromancers and the big blue golem and the solo leader from the blue-berries. The rest I find them totally meh. Worst offender is the knights IMO.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
For that price, I can get waaaaaay more AoS stuff. WAY MORE. Even before any online discount, AoS is only £75, has more models (better? YMMV, but I feel so).

Considering this is clearly a ahem discounted 'bargain' starter set, it's an absolute joke.

The models look gash, and they're pre-painted.

And they want £100 for it? £100???? For a game format that even the industry leader had to give up due to flagging sales?



Are they mad?

Not sure who you are calling mad. Wayland or FFG?

FFG products are usually 15% off. on third party sellers in the US. So it will be for sale for 85$. Normally 100, which is the standard cost for big games like this from FFG.

As for it being 100 pounds, well the pound now sucks, so its not a surprise its far more expensive for you over there. I would call wayland mad, or perhaps blame the people of Brexit then FFG, as its not FFG problem/issue.

Its quality is fine for the minis, they are same as Imperial Assault/ Descent just with the ability to make minor pose configurations

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems it's not pre-painted. My bad.

Models are still crap to mediocre, and laughably expensive for what you get.

And they see it scaling from Skirmish to mass battles? Really don't see that happening.

In your opinion they are rubbish, in my opinion....they are not. But I won't be paying the price FFG are asking for them.

What is 100 pounds? That is $200 Canadian. What did I miss here?

Davor wrote:
What is 100 pounds? That is $200 Canadian. What did I miss here?

100 GBP is closer to 164 CAD right now. The pound isn't doing too well right now. Lots of reasons. Mainly Brexit.

I believe Weyland Games, a vendor/distributor in the UK said that the price for the core box will be 100 GBP. That seems high to most people. It will retail for 100 USD in the US. 100 USD is closer to 80 GBP, so lots of people are concerned and confused.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Pretty much, yes.

I think that Wayland games' team don't have any say in the matter. The price is either dropped to or given by the official distributors for Europe which supply all the stores and don't deal at all with the end customer.

I just preordered two core sets for $75 American dollars a piece, from my LGS. Considering that's the same price of a start collecting box from GW I am totally ok with it. It looks like fun and I can't wait to get my hands on it.

I actually prefer these minis to the crazy strange stuff from GW these days. As long as they paint up easily and well, and they look like they should, I'll be enjoying it.

Sucks that it seems exchange rates/imports/taxes whatever are raising the price elsewhere though.

dead game walking lol

On the plus side should be the 1st ffg game ever without distribution issues, they can ship all the unsold Uk/Eu stock to the us.

I just had a look around and while the financial suicide of brexit explains the uk price there is no excuse for the euro price being the same.

I think your launch may have issues when you make GW look cheap in comparison even before online discounts.

Kriswall wrote:

Davor wrote:
What is 100 pounds? That is $200 Canadian. What did I miss here?

100 GBP is closer to 164 CAD right now. The pound isn't doing too well right now. Lots of reasons. Mainly Brexit.

I believe Weyland Games, a vendor/distributor in the UK said that the price for the core box will be 100 GBP. That seems high to most people. It will retail for 100 USD in the US. 100 USD is closer to 80 GBP, so lots of people are concerned and confused.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I was going off GW pricing. DANG. That means we are getting hosed huge time then. What ever a GW product is in Pounds, us Canadians just double it in Canadian funds. So this is how the Aussies and New Zealanders feel.

Even at $100 Canadian this seems expensive for a starter set. Guess FFG is really going for the "dial, ruler and card" gamer now instead of just trying to get everyone interested in it. Already hard to get games in here that is not Magic or 40K. Looks like I will have to pass on it. I was hoping it would have been cheaper to get as a collecting but it seems money will be better spent else where.

overtyrant wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems it's not pre-painted. My bad.

Models are still crap to mediocre, and laughably expensive for what you get.

And they see it scaling from Skirmish to mass battles? Really don't see that happening.

In your opinion they are rubbish, in my opinion....they are not. But I won't be paying the price FFG are asking for them.

Have we seen any photos of the minis yet that aren't all teeny, squinty, faraway pics?

There was an unofficial un boxing with some pics, and some fans are putting together a wiki for the game which has some decent photos. There are also lots of pics on FFGs site in the news section and on the official forums from gencon.

Yeah, I was in for this thinking it would be around £60 UK ($100 retail = £80 retail UK = £60 from a discounter). The game looks like a lot of fun. But not £100 worth of fun.

Latest from Beasts of War shows an unboxing so you can see how the material of the minis looks unpainted

(and unassembled surprisingly which I wasn't expecting which will please us mould line haters as it's going to make cleanup easier than if everyting was already glues together)


they also say the release has been pushed back by a month or so




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The thing that sets off the cartooniness for me is, no matter if you're a slimy necromancer, a dried out skelly, a bog-standard human or a big four-armed rock monster, you have to be an individual badass doing some variation of a lunge or a Prince George pose. Pumpkin-shaped skulls and twirly blue not-Cygnar/Basilean armour are sprinkles on top of that kind of thing.

I guess the dials are involved in the initiative sequence, but I hope they dictate more actions than simple things like moving forward and wheeling.

They do ...

They gave up the 40K/ Fantasy RPG.... for that...

Rackham called, they want their stolen Confrontation miniatures back.

If they treat this one with as much of the typical care as the rest of their products- Avoid it at all costs.

The miniatures seem to be nicely casted with plain, ordinary detail - easy to paint and identify by newbs. I see that they turned away from their initial idea of having entirely pre-built models to appeal to a wider audience. You only get one type of model per unit though so all your skeletons, infantry and cavalry look the same. I'd have thought about getting the box for the models only as they're pretty generic and can be used in many games, but the game is still 100 bloody pounds in Europe!

 Grot 6 wrote:

Rackham called, they want their stolen Confrontation miniatures back.

Wha...?!?

I'm not getting that from this - at all.

I don't know, I kind of like the old-school style now that I see the minis close up. Sort of an 80s Citadel vibe to them, it has its merits for sure.

CoreCommander wrote:
The miniatures seem to be nicely casted with plain, ordinary detail - easy to paint and identify by newbs. I see that they turned away from their initial idea of having entirely pre-built models to appeal to a wider audience. You only get one type of model per unit though so all your skeletons, infantry and cavalry look the same. I'd have thought about getting the box for the models only as they're pretty generic and can be used in many games, but the game is still 100 bloody pounds in Europe!

Are Mantic Kings of War miniatures expensive there? The Orcs Army and Undead Army were good prices in the US and paint up fine. Dunno about the specialized models, though.