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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 15:36:35
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Arbitrator wrote: Kirasu wrote: aka_mythos wrote: Not too long ago they switched to a different inventory management methodology, where by they keep less product on hand to reduce warehousing costs and simply run the production line more frequently. The consequence is that volume on hand is more arbitrary and based on warehouse space for each product as opposed to producing excess so as to not run out but being left with product that might never sell. This is a contributing factor to why GW is willing to take a chance and release so many more kits and armies. In the past they'd release an army and if it didn't sell well they'd simply have to sit on the inventory until it was all gone, which would make them more reluctant to revisit that army. Dark Eldar for example, as I heard it, GW was still selling models from the first production run up until their first revamp. Similarly things like Catachans and Berzerkers which are so antiquated. That is a lot of money being tied up and inciting warehousing costs. With smaller production volumes a first run dries up in 6 months and if it doesn't it's such a relatively small number compared to what they would have had left before.
Big difference is people actually WANT dice where as people didn't want terrible models like those mentioned. GW should be meeting demand better with these new products considering you're referencing events from 1998.
Well, with them being able to make money from the dice there's a good chance they'll see it and either re-release them in the future (more made for the Traitor Legions release), the new CSM edition and pump out more dice initially for the other Traitor Legions.
Then again, even if this is 'new' GW they work in weird, often self-hurting ways so who knows.
They should just extend the pre-order period and make the items on demand if they can seriously ramp up production like you mentioned. Or specifically make a section of their website that players know the items they buy from that section will take 1 month for delivery.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 15:43:53
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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Slayer le boucher wrote:Still from Veterannoob.
The updated Tzeentch discipline.
OK, Tzaangors are 3s T4, I3, 1A, Ld 7 (Twistbray 8)
Tzeentch- summary since I can't copy paste - but that armor punching power we need.
primaris witchfire 24 SD6+1 blast inferno - can cause other hits only once.
Boon of muatation (1) blessing - chance for Chaos Boon table
Doombolt (1) S8 AP 1 vehicle killer
Siphon Magic (1) - take enemy's warp charges
Breath of Chaos (2) chance to glance
Baleful Devolution (2) - AP 2 killer, possible surprise for the corpse
Treason of Tzeentch (3) - malediction enemy fights itself.
Also i dunno if it is correct to asume this, but it says that he Knows all of Tzeentch and Change powers, he might still be able to generate powers in other disciplines?
We'll need a confirmation about this, but its a possibility.
That's rather wrong.
First, doombolt is a deam-its not a tank killer, its a TeQ killer. multiple hits is easy to score.
Siphon triggers on FRIENDLY castings. so in a psyker army like 1ksons-you can cascade warp charge generation like a boss with this. heck, your next dude casting this himself can trigger the first getting his warp change back!
Breath of chaos is an existing power that is MUCH more than "change to glace", its an ap2 poisoned 4+ template with the added bonus of glancing on a 4+ if you also nab a vehicle.
Devolution is a D6 S6Ap2 focused witchfire with ID on 6s, and IDs generates spawns for you.
And treason is an upgraded version of the BL cabal formation's power. the unit you cast it on shoots for you in your shooting phase, then takes a pinning test.
So, lots of AP2 psyker powers to throw around for the 1ksons.
And some cool utility powers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 15:52:33
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Adolescent Youth with Potential
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I love it! I really do! BUT are they NOT going to do a Forgeworld version pre-ascension?
That would be tragic!
Also, this will pretty much pave the way for Angron and Fulgrim to get their Demon Prince versions too  Insert evil laugh here!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 15:57:40
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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A Skull at the Throne of Khorne
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I notice six (?) bolters without handles/hands on the Terminator sprue. Are you meant to cut the hands off the swords and dualwield bolters?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 15:58:37
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Nvs wrote: Arbitrator wrote: Kirasu wrote: aka_mythos wrote: Not too long ago they switched to a different inventory management methodology, where by they keep less product on hand to reduce warehousing costs and simply run the production line more frequently. The consequence is that volume on hand is more arbitrary and based on warehouse space for each product as opposed to producing excess so as to not run out but being left with product that might never sell. This is a contributing factor to why GW is willing to take a chance and release so many more kits and armies. In the past they'd release an army and if it didn't sell well they'd simply have to sit on the inventory until it was all gone, which would make them more reluctant to revisit that army. Dark Eldar for example, as I heard it, GW was still selling models from the first production run up until their first revamp. Similarly things like Catachans and Berzerkers which are so antiquated. That is a lot of money being tied up and inciting warehousing costs. With smaller production volumes a first run dries up in 6 months and if it doesn't it's such a relatively small number compared to what they would have had left before.
Big difference is people actually WANT dice where as people didn't want terrible models like those mentioned. GW should be meeting demand better with these new products considering you're referencing events from 1998.
Well, with them being able to make money from the dice there's a good chance they'll see it and either re-release them in the future (more made for the Traitor Legions release), the new CSM edition and pump out more dice initially for the other Traitor Legions.
Then again, even if this is 'new' GW they work in weird, often self-hurting ways so who knows.
They should just extend the pre-order period and make the items on demand if they can seriously ramp up production like you mentioned. Or specifically make a section of their website that players know the items they buy from that section will take 1 month for delivery.
GW doesn't produce dice in house as far as I can recall. The tools, paints, etc are all produced out of house and packaged in house.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:03:11
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP
i wana see sprus and such
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:06:03
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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eosgreen wrote:DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP
i wana see sprus and such
Just click the flag in the corner and change it to new zealand. They have been up for awhile. If you're waiting for North America, it'll be another couple hours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:12:08
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Why are there 6 khopesh on the Termie sprue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:12:38
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Nvs wrote:eosgreen wrote:DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP
i wana see sprus and such
Just click the flag in the corner and change it to new zealand. They have been up for awhile. If you're waiting for North America, it'll be another couple hours.
YES tym!
omg those prices... tell me there is an exchange rate im not aware of
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:21:27
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Regular Dakkanaut
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eosgreen wrote:Nvs wrote:eosgreen wrote:DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP
i wana see sprus and such
Just click the flag in the corner and change it to new zealand. They have been up for awhile. If you're waiting for North America, it'll be another couple hours.
YES tym!
omg those prices... tell me there is an exchange rate im not aware of
New Zealand prices for Warhammer are generally almost double.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:23:57
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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l2c wrote:I notice six (?) bolters without handles/hands on the Terminator sprue. Are you meant to cut the hands off the swords and dualwield bolters? 
I'm guessing the bolters are in two parts, and those are just one side of each one - the other halves have the hand on them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:33:18
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Regular Dakkanaut
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anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:37:29
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Pious Palatine
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eosgreen wrote:anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"
meh, needs more sisters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:38:53
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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eosgreen wrote:anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"
The fact that they put in the effort for the Tzeentch Daemon list as well, means that I will be making some of first GW purchases in years now. I am very happy with this release. I'm going to have what I feel is not only a very good army, but very fluffy as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:44:32
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Missionary On A Mission
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eosgreen wrote:anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 16:47:14
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
'Murica! (again)
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BoomWolf wrote: Slayer le boucher wrote:Still from Veterannoob.
The updated Tzeentch discipline.
OK, Tzaangors are 3s T4, I3, 1A, Ld 7 (Twistbray 8)
Tzeentch- summary since I can't copy paste - but that armor punching power we need.
primaris witchfire 24 SD6+1 blast inferno - can cause other hits only once.
Boon of muatation (1) blessing - chance for Chaos Boon table
Doombolt (1) S8 AP 1 vehicle killer
Siphon Magic (1) - take enemy's warp charges
Breath of Chaos (2) chance to glance
Baleful Devolution (2) - AP 2 killer, possible surprise for the corpse
Treason of Tzeentch (3) - malediction enemy fights itself.
Also i dunno if it is correct to asume this, but it says that he Knows all of Tzeentch and Change powers, he might still be able to generate powers in other disciplines?
We'll need a confirmation about this, but its a possibility.
That's rather wrong.
First, doombolt is a deam-its not a tank killer, its a TeQ killer. multiple hits is easy to score.
Siphon triggers on FRIENDLY castings. so in a psyker army like 1ksons-you can cascade warp charge generation like a boss with this. heck, your next dude casting this himself can trigger the first getting his warp change back!
Breath of chaos is an existing power that is MUCH more than "change to glace", its an ap2 poisoned 4+ template with the added bonus of glancing on a 4+ if you also nab a vehicle.
Devolution is a D6 S6Ap2 focused witchfire with ID on 6s, and IDs generates spawns for you.
And treason is an upgraded version of the BL cabal formation's power. the unit you cast it on shoots for you in your shooting phase, then takes a pinning test.
So, lots of AP2 psyker powers to throw around for the 1ksons.
And some cool utility powers.
He's right about siphon. Sorry, it was rather late and the internet kept shouting. Wasn' st posting full stats since that's frowned upon.
@Erjak...funny you should say that. Check out the end of the fluff book
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:05:56
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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strider17 wrote:I love it! I really do! BUT are they NOT going to do a Forgeworld version pre-ascension?
That would be tragic!
Also, this will pretty much pave the way for Angron and Fulgrim to get their Demon Prince versions too  Insert evil laugh here!
They are still doing pre ascension Magnus yeah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:18:44
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?
Ouch!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:24:36
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?
Ouch!
$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:28:39
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Boomwolf or Veteran,
Any chance we could get a breakdown of the Artifacts and Warlord traits?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:30:19
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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nintura wrote:Curious, with the value of the Pound, why don't US buyers just order from the UK store? It's just under $100 USD for Magnus there but predicted to be $130 in the US store?
GW doesn't let people buy overseas for reasons.
Every Aussie would still be buying from GWUK if we could.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:30:26
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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RogueSangre
The Cockatrice Malediction
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https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/11/26/war-zone-fenris-wrath-of-magnus-review-dataslates-and-special-rules/
Not sure how Siphon is supposed to work. I thought you had to finish casting for a unit before moving on to the next one? How is the unit that casts Siphon supposed to use the warp charges that get generated?
Also, I don't see any blessings in the Tzeentch discipline that target a unit. So you won't be able to take advantage of the +1 inv with your aspiring sorcerers.
Horrors on the other hand look absolutely ridiculous. Do they still get malefic? If so that could be really really obnoxious. And expensive. Gotta move those unsold Silver Tower boxes somehow I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:31:18
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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nintura wrote: Alpharius wrote:I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?
Ouch!
$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....
it's 1 pound to 1.25 dollars right now, at 25 pounds it would still be about 32$
If you are that concerned, just purchase it from one of the online retailers, A lot of them offer 20-25% Off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:33:12
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:37:19
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/11/26/war-zone-fenris-wrath-of-magnus-review-dataslates-and-special-rules/
Not sure how Siphon is supposed to work. I thought you had to finish casting for a unit before moving on to the next one? How is the unit that casts Siphon supposed to use the warp charges that get generated?
Also, I don't see any blessings in the Tzeentch discipline that target a unit. So you won't be able to take advantage of the +1 inv with your aspiring sorcerers.
Horrors on the other hand look absolutely ridiculous. Do they still get malefic? If so that could be really really obnoxious. And expensive. Gotta move those unsold Silver Tower boxes somehow I guess.
Is this info available elsewhere? I'm getting bad gateway errors trying to access the site.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:48:12
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Pious Palatine
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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/11/26/war-zone-fenris-wrath-of-magnus-review-dataslates-and-special-rules/
Not sure how Siphon is supposed to work. I thought you had to finish casting for a unit before moving on to the next one? How is the unit that casts Siphon supposed to use the warp charges that get generated?
Also, I don't see any blessings in the Tzeentch discipline that target a unit. So you won't be able to take advantage of the +1 inv with your aspiring sorcerers.
Horrors on the other hand look absolutely ridiculous. Do they still get malefic? If so that could be really really obnoxious. And expensive. Gotta move those unsold Silver Tower boxes somehow I guess.
The change discipline has a bunch of blessings and most of the sorcerors don't have to take tzeentch powers. Also, I don't think you have to go caster by caster, I'd have to check the brb but I don't think that's a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:48:51
Subject: Re:Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Need more rules!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:49:18
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sasori wrote: nintura wrote: Alpharius wrote:I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?
Ouch!
$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....
it's 1 pound to 1.25 dollars right now, at 25 pounds it would still be about 32$
If you are that concerned, just purchase it from one of the online retailers, A lot of them offer 20-25% Off.
With the pound difference making Magnus go from $130 to $98 would be better than 25%
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:53:22
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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So is the psychic ability to grant force to a unit bunk? I was hoping that would be a nice benefit to the occult termies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/26 17:55:54
Subject: Daemon Primarch Magnus/Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions Codex Supplement/Thousand Sons
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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nintura wrote: Sasori wrote: nintura wrote: Alpharius wrote:I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?
Ouch!
$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....
it's 1 pound to 1.25 dollars right now, at 25 pounds it would still be about 32$
If you are that concerned, just purchase it from one of the online retailers, A lot of them offer 20-25% Off.
With the pound difference making Magnus go from $130 to $98 would be better than 25%
25% off of 130$ is about 97 dollars...
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