Arbitrator wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Thousand Sons dice sold out in 10 minutes. Hooray.

Why do they produce so few?

Not too long ago they switched to a different inventory management methodology, where by they keep less product on hand to reduce warehousing costs and simply run the production line more frequently. The consequence is that volume on hand is more arbitrary and based on warehouse space for each product as opposed to producing excess so as to not run out but being left with product that might never sell. This is a contributing factor to why GW is willing to take a chance and release so many more kits and armies. In the past they'd release an army and if it didn't sell well they'd simply have to sit on the inventory until it was all gone, which would make them more reluctant to revisit that army. Dark Eldar for example, as I heard it, GW was still selling models from the first production run up until their first revamp. Similarly things like Catachans and Berzerkers which are so antiquated. That is a lot of money being tied up and inciting warehousing costs. With smaller production volumes a first run dries up in 6 months and if it doesn't it's such a relatively small number compared to what they would have had left before.

Big difference is people actually WANT dice where as people didn't want terrible models like those mentioned. GW should be meeting demand better with these new products considering you're referencing events from 1998.

Well, with them being able to make money from the dice there's a good chance they'll see it and either re-release them in the future (more made for the Traitor Legions release), the new CSM edition and pump out more dice initially for the other Traitor Legions.

Then again, even if this is 'new' GW they work in weird, often self-hurting ways so who knows.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Still from Veterannoob.

The updated Tzeentch discipline.

OK, Tzaangors are 3s T4, I3, 1A, Ld 7 (Twistbray 8)

Tzeentch- summary since I can't copy paste - but that armor punching power we need.

primaris witchfire 24 SD6+1 blast inferno - can cause other hits only once.

Boon of muatation (1) blessing - chance for Chaos Boon table

Doombolt (1) S8 AP 1 vehicle killer

Siphon Magic (1) - take enemy's warp charges

Breath of Chaos (2) chance to glance

Baleful Devolution (2) - AP 2 killer, possible surprise for the corpse

Treason of Tzeentch (3) - malediction enemy fights itself.

Also i dunno if it is correct to asume this, but it says that he Knows all of Tzeentch and Change powers, he might still be able to generate powers in other disciplines?

We'll need a confirmation about this, but its a possibility.

Nvs wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Thousand Sons dice sold out in 10 minutes. Hooray.

Why do they produce so few?

Not too long ago they switched to a different inventory management methodology, where by they keep less product on hand to reduce warehousing costs and simply run the production line more frequently. The consequence is that volume on hand is more arbitrary and based on warehouse space for each product as opposed to producing excess so as to not run out but being left with product that might never sell. This is a contributing factor to why GW is willing to take a chance and release so many more kits and armies. In the past they'd release an army and if it didn't sell well they'd simply have to sit on the inventory until it was all gone, which would make them more reluctant to revisit that army. Dark Eldar for example, as I heard it, GW was still selling models from the first production run up until their first revamp. Similarly things like Catachans and Berzerkers which are so antiquated. That is a lot of money being tied up and inciting warehousing costs. With smaller production volumes a first run dries up in 6 months and if it doesn't it's such a relatively small number compared to what they would have had left before.

Big difference is people actually WANT dice where as people didn't want terrible models like those mentioned. GW should be meeting demand better with these new products considering you're referencing events from 1998.

Well, with them being able to make money from the dice there's a good chance they'll see it and either re-release them in the future (more made for the Traitor Legions release), the new CSM edition and pump out more dice initially for the other Traitor Legions.

Then again, even if this is 'new' GW they work in weird, often self-hurting ways so who knows.

They should just extend the pre-order period and make the items on demand if they can seriously ramp up production like you mentioned. Or specifically make a section of their website that players know the items they buy from that section will take 1 month for delivery.

eosgreen wrote:
DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP

i wana see sprus and such

Nvs wrote:

eosgreen wrote:
DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP

i wana see sprus and such

Just click the flag in the corner and change it to new zealand. They have been up for awhile. If you're waiting for North America, it'll be another couple hours.

eosgreen wrote:

Nvs wrote:

eosgreen wrote:
DAMN IT WHEN ARE THE CLOSE UPS AT GW SITE GOING UP

i wana see sprus and such

Just click the flag in the corner and change it to new zealand. They have been up for awhile. If you're waiting for North America, it'll be another couple hours.

YES tym!

omg those prices... tell me there is an exchange rate im not aware of

 l2c wrote:
I notice six (?) bolters without handles/hands on the Terminator sprue. Are you meant to cut the hands off the swords and dualwield bolters?

eosgreen wrote:
anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"

eosgreen wrote:
anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"

eosgreen wrote:
anyone else think this is the best release in ages? i have no words for how amazing this is hobby wise to me and i'm just a fan of all things "good models"

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 BoomWolf wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Still from Veterannoob.

The updated Tzeentch discipline.

OK, Tzaangors are 3s T4, I3, 1A, Ld 7 (Twistbray 8)

Tzeentch- summary since I can't copy paste - but that armor punching power we need.

primaris witchfire 24 SD6+1 blast inferno - can cause other hits only once.

Boon of muatation (1) blessing - chance for Chaos Boon table

Doombolt (1) S8 AP 1 vehicle killer

Siphon Magic (1) - take enemy's warp charges

Breath of Chaos (2) chance to glance

Baleful Devolution (2) - AP 2 killer, possible surprise for the corpse

Treason of Tzeentch (3) - malediction enemy fights itself.

Also i dunno if it is correct to asume this, but it says that he Knows all of Tzeentch and Change powers, he might still be able to generate powers in other disciplines?

We'll need a confirmation about this, but its a possibility.

That's rather wrong.

First, doombolt is a deam-its not a tank killer, its a TeQ killer. multiple hits is easy to score.

Siphon triggers on FRIENDLY castings. so in a psyker army like 1ksons-you can cascade warp charge generation like a boss with this. heck, your next dude casting this himself can trigger the first getting his warp change back!

Breath of chaos is an existing power that is MUCH more than "change to glace", its an ap2 poisoned 4+ template with the added bonus of glancing on a 4+ if you also nab a vehicle.

Devolution is a D6 S6Ap2 focused witchfire with ID on 6s, and IDs generates spawns for you.

And treason is an upgraded version of the BL cabal formation's power. the unit you cast it on shoots for you in your shooting phase, then takes a pinning test.


So, lots of AP2 psyker powers to throw around for the 1ksons.
And some cool utility powers.

strider17 wrote:
I love it! I really do! BUT are they NOT going to do a Forgeworld version pre-ascension?
That would be tragic!
Also, this will pretty much pave the way for Angron and Fulgrim to get their Demon Prince versions too Insert evil laugh here!

 Alpharius wrote:
I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?

Ouch!

 nintura wrote:
Curious, with the value of the Pound, why don't US buyers just order from the UK store? It's just under $100 USD for Magnus there but predicted to be $130 in the US store?

 nintura wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?

Ouch!

$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why are there 6 khopesh on the Termie sprue?

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/11/26/war-zone-fenris-wrath-of-magnus-review-dataslates-and-special-rules/

Not sure how Siphon is supposed to work. I thought you had to finish casting for a unit before moving on to the next one? How is the unit that casts Siphon supposed to use the warp charges that get generated?

Also, I don't see any blessings in the Tzeentch discipline that target a unit. So you won't be able to take advantage of the +1 inv with your aspiring sorcerers.

Horrors on the other hand look absolutely ridiculous. Do they still get malefic? If so that could be really really obnoxious. And expensive. Gotta move those unsold Silver Tower boxes somehow I guess.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/11/26/war-zone-fenris-wrath-of-magnus-review-dataslates-and-special-rules/

Not sure how Siphon is supposed to work. I thought you had to finish casting for a unit before moving on to the next one? How is the unit that casts Siphon supposed to use the warp charges that get generated?

Also, I don't see any blessings in the Tzeentch discipline that target a unit. So you won't be able to take advantage of the +1 inv with your aspiring sorcerers.

Horrors on the other hand look absolutely ridiculous. Do they still get malefic? If so that could be really really obnoxious. And expensive. Gotta move those unsold Silver Tower boxes somehow I guess.

 Sasori wrote:

 nintura wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?

Ouch!

$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....

it's 1 pound to 1.25 dollars right now, at 25 pounds it would still be about 32$

If you are that concerned, just purchase it from one of the online retailers, A lot of them offer 20-25% Off.

 nintura wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 nintura wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I suppose I haven't been paying too much attention to GW lately but...$40 for a plastic Ahriman?

Ouch!

$28 if they had allowed you to buy it from the UK....

it's 1 pound to 1.25 dollars right now, at 25 pounds it would still be about 32$

If you are that concerned, just purchase it from one of the online retailers, A lot of them offer 20-25% Off.

With the pound difference making Magnus go from $130 to $98 would be better than 25%