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 krazynadechukr wrote:

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Imateria wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
Really sucks that they're not planning to port the Custodes and Sisters of Silence stuff from 30k over - no fluff reason it shouldn't still be around (that I know of) and the models are awesome, but I don't want to play Horus Heresy :(

Uh, what?


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Try taking a look at how many custodes and SoS models there, or units in Inferno, and then realise that almost none of them have rules for 40K.

His statement was he can't play custodes in 40k. It's not true. That is all.

No, his statement was that they're not porting over the 30K stuff.

Just getting into semantics now. Let's move on before this gets ugly. Back onto topic: Does anyone know if Custodes are included in the new SM codex yet?

99% sure no as they are in imperium 2 codex.

Custodes are in no way Space Marines.. why would they be in a new codex?

 Yodhrin wrote:
Maybe boring to you chief - for a lot of folk SoS/Custodes(since they seem to be making them into a sort of joint thingy now) without grav-Rhinos is like Space Marines without, you know, Rhinos.

Not quite the same thing, though, brah. Space Marines have had Rhinos, and models for them for almost 30 years, while SoS/Custodes have never had models until last year. and have never had grav-rhino models, and that fluff isn't nearly as old or widespread. So, pretty bad comparison overall.

That, my friends, is my all-time fav unit armed with my all-time fav weapons. Thanks FW, I needed to spend more money.

 Azazelx wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Maybe boring to you chief - for a lot of folk SoS/Custodes(since they seem to be making them into a sort of joint thingy now) without grav-Rhinos is like Space Marines without, you know, Rhinos.

Not quite the same thing, though, brah. Space Marines have had Rhinos, and models for them for almost 30 years, while SoS/Custodes have never had models until last year. and have never had grav-rhino models, and that fluff isn't nearly as old or widespread. So, pretty bad comparison overall.

Only because you draw an artificial distinction between fluff & art, and models. As they had existed, for as long as they had existed in the modern form, the two things were synonymous, and I don't see why someone's appreciation for them in that format is somehow devalued by models not previously existing. A fair few folk were very much anticipating the point when FW got around to doing Custodes & SoS models exactly because they appeared to be being so faithful to the art & fluff that had come before in most cases, and so there was a reasonable expectation the same would be true for those factions.

Actually come to think of it, I recall a fair few Legion players being pissy about the Dildobikes when they came out since they didn't really resemble either the old RT jetbike models or the artwork of jetbikes from the HH artbooks - was their regret that the established version wasn't the basis for the models also unjustified?

 Accolade wrote:
I'm curious of the scale of the Custodes terminators. They look very reminiscent of the Cataphractii terminators, but I'm assuming they're much scaled up to their Custodes brethren?

They look like they're on 60mm (or at least bigger than 40mm.. do 50mm bases exist?) bases; if so then they're upscaled from normal terminators.

 warboss wrote:
They look like they're on 60mm (or at least bigger than 40mm.. do 50mm bases exist?) bases; if so then they're upscaled from normal terminators.

I believe that the DW:OK uhh, big genestealer guy was on a 50mm. Either way, I haven't seen a 40mm base with that injection point in the middle, so would tend to agree that it's probably not that.

@warboss: Yep. Kataphron Destroyers, Lord of Contagion, Genestealer Patriarch are all on 50s.

Chaos Spawn have been bumped up to 50s as well now.

Also, Crisis Suits.

Thanks for the confirmation! I suppose that's what they're on as it looked a bit off from 60mm visually in the proportions hence my question. I wasn't aware of the crisis suit change.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
@warboss: Yep. Kataphron Destroyers, Lord of Contagion, Genestealer Patriarch are all on 50s.

(Kataphron Destroyers are on 60mm bases.)


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Some other 40k units on 50mm round bases:
Flesh Hounds of Khorne (optional)
possibly the Tech-Priest Dominus although mine came with a 40mm
Ahriman

Ahrimans base looks like a 30mm to me...

(here)https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/ahriman-arch-sorcerer-of-tzeentch

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Ahrimans base looks like a 30mm to me...

(here)https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/ahriman-arch-sorcerer-of-tzeentch

Nah, Website says 50mm.
His wide leg pose and the fact that's he's surprisingly big for a Power Armoured model probably lead to the confusion.

SM Centurions were the first to show up on 50mms

New stuff: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Glart-Smashrip-2017



And get your hankies out babies: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Thousand-Sons-Magistus-Amon-2017

Not loving whoever is doing these paintjobs :-( kinda ruins the model a bit for me, too chalky for a show piece model to attract you in to buy one. not that it's a bad paint job by any means, I just expect FW to be the upper echelon of models and inspiration. I mean I don't have anything I did on the site so I can't really talk......

Shouldn't have released these two at the same time

Yeah, its not a bad paintjob, but it makes you miss details which you can see much better when looking at the unpainted resin.

I am not a guy who worries too much about prices, but thats on par with Sigismund who had a much larger base IMO. Oh well ...

Amon looks like a better Kharn than Kharn

 warboss wrote:
They look like they're on 60mm (or at least bigger than 40mm.. do 50mm bases exist?) bases; if so then they're upscaled from normal terminators.

They better be! Custodes are size wise supposed to be to marines what marines are to normal humans so the terminators should be notably bulkier than marine terminators.

And like the new TS character's head. Too bad we don't have TS force so not much point getting that model.

Yeesh. Amon need a helmet, I wouldn't want that awesome beard to get stuck somewhere...

Isn't Amon the one who looks like Sir Ben Kingsley?

The beard looks odd & the shoulder spike would limit his arm movement because of hitting the backpack exhaust engine. Not diggin' this one FW...IMHO

 BrookM wrote:

I want it

I want it now.

good thing i waited on those skaven boosters.

That thousands son character is pretty bad, weird face and details. And the cape is pretty...well bad (go look at the 360 spin). FWs sculpts overall have gotten worse over time (custodes being an exception) at least in terms of these character kits. I wonder if the loss of edgar skomorowski has something to do with it...

 Thargrim wrote:
That thousands son character is pretty bad, weird face and details. And the cape is pretty...well bad (go look at the 360 spin). FWs sculpts overall have gotten worse over time (custodes being an exception) at least in terms of these character kits. I wonder if the loss of edgar skomorowski has something to do with it...

Honestly, the sculpts aren't half as bad as they look with these wonky paintjobs.

Amon is getting a ton of hate here, which I can't understand. I love that model, everything about it is awesome. Granted, its details are a little crowded, but that seems fitting seeing as he is a scholar.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Amon is getting a ton of hate here, which I can't understand. I love that model, everything about it is awesome. Granted, its details are a little crowded, but that seems fitting seeing as he is a scholar.

I chalk alot of it up to the paint job, I think the unfinished models looks nice.

 Thargrim wrote:
That thousands son character is pretty bad, weird face and details. And the cape is pretty...well bad (go look at the 360 spin). FWs sculpts overall have gotten worse over time (custodes being an exception) at least in terms of these character kits. I wonder if the loss of edgar skomorowski has something to do with it...

ugh. that cape is bad on the 360