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2017/11/17 22:14:57
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Fafnir wrote: Zingraff wrote:Gor might be cool to have in an inquisitor's retinue. Anyone has any idea on how to use the model that way? I haven't yet had a chance to look at the current 8th edition rules for inquisitors.
He'd be cool to have in a retinue, but the Inquisition rules for 8th are beyond garbage, and probably the worst of any faction in the game. Most Inquisitor loadouts can't even be legally played anymore. You could take Gor as an Acolyte with a pistol and chainsword, and that's about it. But you'll have a very hard time justifying the use of that on the table.
Yeah, the tl;Dr of it is acolytes are WAY over costed for what they do, and inquisitors don't reealy do anything for your army other imperial factions didn't do better anyway
In theory inquisators SHOULD be perfect HQ's for imperial soup armies to rbing everything together. But they kinda fail to deliver that. They almost need a top down rewrite to make their place in imperial soup armies more clear.
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2017/11/18 01:02:29
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I'm getting him as a bodyguard regardless. Maybe by the time I can play again the Inquisition won't be such a sad joke.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2017/11/18 09:35:37
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
UK
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The fluff for the Astreus is so much better than the Cawl rubbish for the Primaris marines and the repulsor etc.
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2017/11/18 13:49:24
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Lockark wrote: Fafnir wrote: Zingraff wrote:Gor might be cool to have in an inquisitor's retinue. Anyone has any idea on how to use the model that way? I haven't yet had a chance to look at the current 8th edition rules for inquisitors.
He'd be cool to have in a retinue, but the Inquisition rules for 8th are beyond garbage, and probably the worst of any faction in the game. Most Inquisitor loadouts can't even be legally played anymore. You could take Gor as an Acolyte with a pistol and chainsword, and that's about it. But you'll have a very hard time justifying the use of that on the table.
Yeah, the tl;Dr of it is acolytes are WAY over costed for what they do, and inquisitors don't reealy do anything for your army other imperial factions didn't do better anyway
In theory inquisators SHOULD be perfect HQ's for imperial soup armies to rbing everything together. But they kinda fail to deliver that. They almost need a top down rewrite to make their place in imperial soup armies more clear.
Give them: BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE IMMORTAL EMPEROR’S INQUISITION: If the Inquisitor is your Warlord, any IMPERIUM unit with a faction variable (<CHAPTER>, <REGIMENT> or similar) automatically replaces it with INQUISITION instead of any of the options normally allowed.
Allows the Inquisitor to order anyone around but also allows for space marine Captains to inspire guardsmen to be better shots, and guard Officers to order space marines to be better shots, and similar interesting interactions, while softly locking out the divergent chapters and named characters.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
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2017/11/18 16:30:43
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Mr_Rose wrote: Lockark wrote: Fafnir wrote: Zingraff wrote:Gor might be cool to have in an inquisitor's retinue. Anyone has any idea on how to use the model that way? I haven't yet had a chance to look at the current 8th edition rules for inquisitors.
He'd be cool to have in a retinue, but the Inquisition rules for 8th are beyond garbage, and probably the worst of any faction in the game. Most Inquisitor loadouts can't even be legally played anymore. You could take Gor as an Acolyte with a pistol and chainsword, and that's about it. But you'll have a very hard time justifying the use of that on the table.
Yeah, the tl;Dr of it is acolytes are WAY over costed for what they do, and inquisitors don't reealy do anything for your army other imperial factions didn't do better anyway
In theory inquisators SHOULD be perfect HQ's for imperial soup armies to rbing everything together. But they kinda fail to deliver that. They almost need a top down rewrite to make their place in imperial soup armies more clear.
Give them: BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE IMMORTAL EMPEROR’S INQUISITION: If the Inquisitor is your Warlord, any IMPERIUM unit with a faction variable (<CHAPTER>, <REGIMENT> or similar) automatically replaces it with INQUISITION instead of any of the options normally allowed.
Allows the Inquisitor to order anyone around but also allows for space marine Captains to inspire guardsmen to be better shots, and guard Officers to order space marines to be better shots, and similar interesting interactions, while softly locking out the divergent chapters and named characters.
Well, I guess my old Marine army is worthless. It was pretty much based around an inquisitor.
In other news, I noticed this in this month's WD:
We're working on rules for Hired Guns, Hangers-on, Bounty Hunters and Hive Scum.
There was also a bit about them having plans for more than 3 times as many additional models than there were in the original Necromunda. Do you guys think they'll be FW, like Gor, or GW?
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2017/11/18 16:58:46
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They'll be FW resin
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2017/11/18 20:44:14
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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It’s a Specialist Game so Forge World only, unless they want to give up one of their quarterly allocation of sprue frames to make them instead of a gang kit.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
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2017/11/19 10:06:34
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2017/11/19 23:32:28
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Absolutely love that Astraeus beast!! Gorgeous piece of kit inits ugliness. Really wants one. Mayb next spring.
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2017/11/19 23:41:09
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yet somehow not enough room to swing a cat transport any Marines.
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2017/11/19 23:49:11
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Yet somehow not enough room to swing a cat transport any Marines.
When you need all the guns but not the grunts.
All repulsive plates, without any ot the transport capacity! Astraeus super heavy tank, for only 200 prayers to the Ommnisiah.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/11/20 00:13:56
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Fixture of Dakka
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How does the same team that writes the rules for the Falchion also write the rules for this thing? It's so bad on a rules level, do they have absolutely 0 conversation about anything they write?
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Keeper of the DomBox
Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
32,000, 19,000, Renegades - 10,000 , 7,500, |
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2017/11/20 00:26:21
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Kirasu wrote:How does the same team that writes the rules for the Falchion also write the rules for this thing? It's so bad on a rules level, do they have absolutely 0 conversation about anything they write?
Did you see the Forgeworld indexes? Their rules team is an utter mess.
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2017/11/20 03:07:01
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Kirasu wrote:How does the same team that writes the rules for the Falchion also write the rules for this thing? It's so bad on a rules level, do they have absolutely 0 conversation about anything they write?
You're talking about the same team that wrote that the Tiger Shark AX-1-0, a unit that is armed with 2 Macro weapons (weapons that can only be fired if the unit remains stationary unless it has the titanic keyword), is a flyer that has a minimum move distance and cannot stay still, and doesn't have the titanic keyword. They did not realize that this was a problem until pretty much the every Tau player on the internet pointed out to them that the Tiger Shark actually could not function as written. Forge World has jacked up their 8th edition rules writing so horribly in the name of jerking off to their power armor fantasy (Horus Heresy).
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Mobile Assault Cadre: 9,500 points (3,200 points fully painted)
Genestealer Cult 1228 points
849 points/ 15 SWC |
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2017/11/20 04:37:09
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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GI_Redshirt wrote: Kirasu wrote:How does the same team that writes the rules for the Falchion also write the rules for this thing? It's so bad on a rules level, do they have absolutely 0 conversation about anything they write?
You're talking about the same team that wrote that the Tiger Shark AX-1-0, a unit that is armed with 2 Macro weapons (weapons that can only be fired if the unit remains stationary unless it has the titanic keyword), is a flyer that has a minimum move distance and cannot stay still, and doesn't have the titanic keyword. They did not realize that this was a problem until pretty much the every Tau player on the internet pointed out to them that the Tiger Shark actually could not function as written. Forge World has jacked up their 8th edition rules writing so horribly in the name of jerking off to their power armor fantasy (Horus Heresy).
That power armor fantasy is their money maker.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2017/11/20 04:55:12
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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The series that's last rules release was an utter mess of typos, missing rules, balance issues and the like of which no one had ever seen before (Though the Indices probably beat it with flaws, they were also all rushed in a short time frame).
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2017/11/20 06:53:08
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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Well, naturally heresy is thier money maker.
It's hard to justify throwing monies on units that liturally can't function in game.
And even when they do, FW canceled entire model lines because they didn't sell, missing that the reason they didn't sell was not because the models were not awesome, but the rules were worse than godamn possessed for several editions.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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2017/11/20 06:54:48
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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This image shows brilliantly why I would never buy one. It just doesn’t look like it belongs in the same IP as the others.
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2017/11/20 07:46:09
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Dakka Veteran
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MonkeyBallistic wrote:This image shows brilliantly why I would never buy one. It just doesn’t look like it belongs in the same IP as the others.
Agreed. Not sure what happened at FW/ GW in recent years but their vehicles have certainly taken a shift in a new direction aesthetically that I am not a fan of. Not sure when it started but I know when the Taurox came out I could hardly believe how bad it looked. Doesn't seem like it belongs in the setting at all. The only model FW has released in recent years that I like is the new Sisters of Silence vehicle. Its unique & I can definitely see the Sisters of Silence using them:
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2017/11/20 09:18:42
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Yeah, its for when you have a friend that has something like a Thunderhawk or Stormbird who wants to game with it, and you want to ruin his day.
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2017/11/20 13:08:48
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Commissar Benny wrote: MonkeyBallistic wrote:This image shows brilliantly why I would never buy one. It just doesn’t look like it belongs in the same IP as the others.
Agreed. Not sure what happened at FW/ GW in recent years but their vehicles have certainly taken a shift in a new direction aesthetically that I am not a fan of. Not sure when it started but I know when the Taurox came out I could hardly believe how bad it looked. Doesn't seem like it belongs in the setting at all. The only model FW has released in recent years that I like is the new Sisters of Silence vehicle. Its unique & I can definitely see the Sisters of Silence using them:
That is because the Kharon is properly Grimdark. This new hover tank looks like something from like Heavy Gear or something. Not at all Grimdark!
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2017/11/20 13:32:47
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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The Astraeus to me looks like it was clipped out of a simple RTS video game (something like Supreme Commander). But then I dislike the Repulsor tank or whatever also.
I liked Jes' original sketch but the end result leaves a lot to be desired. Combined witht he mediocre design of the dread and it's probably a good thing I won't be building a Primaris army --- the aesthetic direction is pretty bad at the moment.
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2017/11/20 16:03:36
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Courtesy of Warhammer Community.
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2017/11/20 16:06:56
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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They are not bad, but are just another slighly different kind of Space Marine Commander.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/11/20 16:11:30
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Not too keen on the Fatmarine look:
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2017/11/20 16:15:54
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Those are some very nice Space Marines, I love this Space Marines, especially how they look like Space Marines and are in Power Armour.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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2017/11/20 17:44:40
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Norn Queen
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This image shows brilliantly why I would never buy one. It just doesn’t look like it belongs in the same IP as the others.
QFT. How FW can swing between gems like Culns Dreadnought and this clusterfeck is beyond me.
Would fit in with 90s GI Joe toys.....
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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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2017/11/20 17:55:29
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Finally a marine that’s not constipation faced, but he gets objectified as fat. Women really don’t have a chance if space marines are judged for their looks .
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2017/11/20 18:00:40
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I just think it is a mediocre sculpt with an awful paint job.
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2017/11/20 18:07:12
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - FW Open Day Products on Pg. 136!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Awful, really?
I can certainly accept that you might not like the style, but it's a well painted miniature.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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