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Yeah, it seems like right now we'll just get some imperial, 30k-era titans. Which is exactly how they should start, imo, but hopefully crazy high demand causes them to expand quickly!

Its so weird to me that this isn't going to just be Epic. The Titanicus rules seem more focused on Titans obviously, and providing them more complexity/nuance than their Epic Armageddon counter-parts, but while Hewitt says they're leaving rules hooks for infantry, etc... I feel like there will be a ton of clunkiness if they go proper combined arms after an inevitably successful launch.

Part of what i'm liking having just gotten into Epic is how cleanly it plays with so many kinds of units. If Titans alone will require their own dash-boards, etc... the game sounds like it would just be a mess....

... unless that is, they really do plan on never expanding it back towards an Epic-esque game, which strikes me as more likely, but which would be a terrible shame.

I still feel like a healthy GW landscape could include aggressively priced Epic, where people own multiple armies and play out their huge scale conflicts, right alongside a cleaned up 8th Ed 40k where people play out their more conventional battles, often luxuriating in their super premium, high-end models.

You guys see this info from this past weekend?

Here’s some of the information that was picked up throughout the day.

They’re digging into all previous Epic games for inspiration, but it will be a new rule set.
Expect Titans to have a plasma reactor power tracker to keep track of how much power they have.
They’ll be able to overload the reactor to boost power with a risk (Overload voids, increase speed, etc)
Harpoons will be back but nowhere near as ridiculous as they used to be!
Expect 2nd edition Epic orders and damage charts
Expect 1st edition campaign and upgrade rules
Engine war will be a bit of a slugfest, with Titans slowly blasting each other to Atoms, staggering about, weapons missing, systems burnt out, but still able to fight until you smash the legs, pulverise the MIU’s or cause the reactor to go nuclear.
Manoeuvrability is key – the heavier the Titan, the slower they are. He described a play test where his final warlord was fragged when an enemy Warhound got behind it and he didn’t have enough power to overload the reactor to take more turns than they can
Knights are objective grabbers and shield droppers, don’t expect them to go toe to toe with Titans and survive
Campaign games are the default mode of play, similar to Necromunda as he described it. With options for competitive and open play.
Machine spirit personality will play a role. This sounded really exciting. Titans will pick up a personality the more used they are. So you could end up with a Titan geared for close combat and have it turn into a bit of berserker which will have an effect of it becoming less controllable in battle. ‘Resting’ the Titan becomes an important choice to make.

Got my March WD today. The next month blurb on the back page says Adaptus Titanicus for the April issue

I can confirm this. In the April Issue we will see some content about AT.

I wouldn't expect much, the game was postponed. The situation is similiar to HH: Inferno's last year... Fingers-crossed for some fluff and gameplay teasers, though.

Anyone pining for epic, you can find a bunch of rules links including the 30k heresy development wiki here http://epicau.com/wp/resources/

And find great models at http://www.vanguardminiatures.co.uk

While we're at it, let's not forget the home of Net Epic Armageddon, with the rules and army lists predominantly used in the US:

http://www.net-armageddon.org

I agree that it will be a shame if the new Adeptus Titanicus becomes the core of a combined arms replacement for Epic. With the amount of detail they've included for the war engines, it sounds impossible to properly represent a range of units. Epic: Armageddon does it so cleanly, and the old rules are free and really only need minor tweaks.

The leaked pics from this white dwarf say page 19 titanicus. Is there any info there? Following the three month rule, this white dwarf was put together in December. Presumably that was before the decision to delay the game.

UK edition has a advert on page19. Pages 20 and 21 are Black library releases and they do include (re)releases of Titanicus and Titan by Dan abnett.

Well, that was a long topic to get caught up on! Various points in no particular order:

I think 8mm is just about the right scale for me - a good balance between mini size, detail, and cost

I wouldn't get wrapped around the handle on exact scale translations yet, as the test minis we see now may not reflect the final sizes (one of the great things about 3D files - they scale easily)

2 x Warlords, 2 x Reavers, and 2 x Warhounds sounds like a good starter mix (and also lends itself to progressively learning the game

The US$150 price point would be in line with higher end starter sets these days

If I were GW, I'd hold the release till either the summer convention season, or till the holidays

I'm sure that the Titan-only focus is intentional at this point, and expanding the scope (to infantry, tanks, and/or other races) will happen if the game does well

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Got my March WD today. The next month blurb on the back page says Adaptus Titanicus for the April issue

Yes! Looking forward to more official info

schoon wrote:

2 x Warlords, 2 x Reavers, and 2 x Warhounds sounds like a good starter mix (and also lends itself to progressively learning the game

The US$150 price point would be in line with higher end starter sets these days

Were they rumours or are you just guessing? It sounds on the cheap side if the Warlords are going to be as large as I'm thinking.

Do the ads say anything about plastic/resin/lead/whittled wood?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do the ads say anything about plastic/resin/lead/whittled wood?

Ha whittled wood for hipster gamers.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Were they rumours or are you just guessing? It sounds on the cheap side if the Warlords are going to be as large as I'm thinking.

That was rumor from many pages back in the topic, but on the other hand, it's only a rumor.

Perhaps the "It's Bigger and Smaller than You Think" tag from April's White Dwarf means the 8mm scale and fewer titans in the box, respectively.

Not fussed about the start set's price or contents - provided it's got the rules and a decent dollop of background, I'm in.

What is make or break for me is the price for extra models.

I've been critical of Armada's expansion costs - and I'll be applying the same wry eye to AT, even though I'm frothing mad for this game.

If a Warlord is £50 or under, I'm most definitely in. £60? Well, I could be persuaded. £70....hmmm...probably not?

Though of course that also all depends on how nice the models are, what (if any) options they come with, and how the game scales (I'm rarely one to have a static '1,500 and done' type forces - I prefer to have a larger collection to vary things up). I don't mind paying top dollar for nice models in a game where I can realistically field my whole collection once in a while - but if it only works well up to say, 4 Titans, and the gameplay doesn't make much difference between them, that's a taller order to actually sell me on.

YMMV of course - I can only chime in with my own thoughts.

I'm looking forward to seeing these models for this game! the fun part will be scaling down my painting style to suit the size they are meant to be :-) I can sense a lot of amazing paintwork being shown off as well as using them for conversion parts on Orks etc?

I know it's probably way to much to hope for, but it would be awesome if they had SOMETHING pre-release at Adepticon!

Besides a plastic (or bust) starter I don't think I'd buy Titans at all. A swarm of (plastic) knights sounds way more to my liking, super huge models turn me off. And tanks and infantry would be a wallet killer.

No plastic starter Titans, no deal.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Besides a plastic (or bust) starter I don't think I'd buy Titans at all. A swarm of (plastic) knights sounds way more to my liking, super huge models turn me off. And tanks and infantry would be a wallet killer.

No plastic starter Titans, no deal.

I have a similar feeling. I'm up in the air on buying AT, but the titans themselves interest me less than the tanks and aircraft. The titans are something I'd rather have after all the other stuff.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
Besides a plastic (or bust) starter I don't think I'd buy Titans at all. A swarm of (plastic) knights sounds way more to my liking, super huge models turn me off. And tanks and infantry would be a wallet killer.

No plastic starter Titans, no deal.

I have a similar feeling. I'm up in the air on buying AT, but the titans themselves interest me less than the tanks and aircraft. The titans are something I'd rather have after all the other stuff.

Well then Adeptus Titanicus is probably the wrong game then

Well, maybe right now?

But hopefully 'all that other stuff' shows up sooner rather then later and EPIC more or less makes its triumphant return!

 Binabik15 wrote:
Besides a plastic (or bust) starter I don't think I'd buy Titans at all. A swarm of (plastic) knights sounds way more to my liking, super huge models turn me off. And tanks and infantry would be a wallet killer.

No plastic starter Titans, no deal.

Yeah I love the idea of a "swarm" of Knights, too particularly one swirling around a big Warlord to give that sense of scale!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If a Warlord is £50 or under, I'm most definitely in. £60? Well, I could be persuaded. £70....hmmm...probably not?

This brings up an excellent point: what is the correct price point for an "average" titan?

A 40K Dreadnought is ~US$50, so I think that would be about right for a titan as well.

 schoon wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If a Warlord is £50 or under, I'm most definitely in. £60? Well, I could be persuaded. £70....hmmm...probably not?

This brings up an excellent point: what is the correct price point for an "average" titan?

A 40K Dreadnought is ~US$50, so I think that would be about right for a titan as well.

It'll really come down to whether these are resin or plastic. Rumors puts it at Thanatar size, which is a £75 ($92)... the most similarly sized plastic 40k model is a Dreadknight a $54 model. Even if it's resin FW is likely to do a bundle and that would likely get it sub-£70... if it's plastic it'd be easy.

As far as the correct price goes... I think it's more important to consider the "to play" cost... The "average" game was said to be 3 Warlords per player. I think 3 Warlords and a rulebook when purchased individually needs to be no more than $200, to attract enough players.

If the starter set has plastic titans or Knights I am buying it for sure. A whole resin only range is very off putting to me though.

By they way the March white dwarf has a preview of adeptus titanicus listed in the contents but not in the magazine. My guess is that they pulled it when the game got delayed but forgot to change the contents. It makes me doubt whether we will see anything next month either.

If they can make a good starter full of plastic minis, I am all for them taking their time.

Chikout wrote:
By they way the March white dwarf has a preview of adeptus titanicus listed in the contents but not in the magazine. My guess is that they pulled it when the game got delayed but forgot to change the contents. It makes me doubt whether we will see anything next month either.

From what I saw, the March issue mentioned Titanicus material in the "Next Month" section.

So April will be the proof in the pudding!

This is probably the only thing that could get me back into a tabletop game. Sweet.

 schoon wrote:

Chikout wrote:
By they way the March white dwarf has a preview of adeptus titanicus listed in the contents but not in the magazine. My guess is that they pulled it when the game got delayed but forgot to change the contents. It makes me doubt whether we will see anything next month either.

From what I saw, the March issue mentioned Titanicus material in the "Next Month" section.

So April will be the proof in the pudding!

is not mentioned in spanish white dwarf oO

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/02/white-dwarf-marzo-imagenes.html