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2017/05/27 15:05:44
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
The more I'm seeing, the more I am looking forward to this edition dropping.
Hope it doesn't disappoint
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2017/05/27 15:08:23
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
axisofentropy wrote: Anyone notice the Hellblaster Power Level is different in yesterdays' leak and today's published dataslate?
Spoiler:
Maybe the leaked sheet isn't from the boxset, but is rather one of the later versions of a playtesting sheet (especially given how different its format is and the long-winded way of explaining Supercharged)?
2017/05/27 15:22:25
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Someone told me it was confirmed that Datasheets were NOT free like AoS. I scanned through the thread but didnt see anything. Has anyone else seen/heard anything like this?
2017/05/27 15:23:05
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Well, not good in the blurry pic from the low angle, but if it's not good I'll be pretty happy honestly given I'm a sucker for Dreadnoughts but don't really want to buy into primaris stuff.
And if it turns out in a better pic to look really good either as is or for conversation potential, I get a good model so I guess win/win?
2017/05/27 15:27:35
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/05/27 15:35:54
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
The Marine Dread is easily one of my fav 40K miniatures (I own 10, I think, and a further 4 Chaos ones). I'm glad they stuck with the basic premise for the one that will eventually replace ol' Washy.
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Hmm. Not impressed by the dread. Maybe it will look better from other angles or if posed better. If not, Leviathan remains as good bigger dread option.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: The Baal fluff looks bad because the deux ex machina seems extremely, extremely forced and predictable. That, along with the “5 Chapter Masters died, so it's a big deal, but we are not telling you which”…
I am sure it will be expanded upon in further fluff books.
Yeah I hope they will turn bad fluff into good fluff but I would like it even more if it was good fluff from the start.
Vorian wrote: It's not Deus ex Mechanica - it's the guys going round breaking sieges and saving desperate situations.
So “Some chaos daemons ate all the tyranid fleet while not attacking the space marines they hate with a passion, and then just as the defenders are about to finally die some outside huge force appears by chance”.
Totally not a Deus Ex Machina, it's a daemon ex machina and then a primarch ex machina, completely different.
What sucks is… the faction keyword. Stuff that definitely isn't heretic astartes gets called heretic astartes, for instance. Those pox walkers are NOT astartes. And all those models have the exact same faction keywords. Why? Why have different keywords then?
Also:
Q: Will we see a Sisters of battle faction focus soon?
A: Yes, there will be indeed!
If it's actually a Agents of the Imperium faction focus I'm going to be so pissed!
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2017/05/27 15:42:44
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Personally I'm a little bit in love with that Dread, but then I've always been a fan of the old ambulatory washing machine.
At this rate they're going to have a full range of stuff that can be straighforwardly(if perhaps not easily) converted into truescale versions of the existing SM range. I'd have preferred they just straight-up did a truescale range of course, but I can settle for almost(which was doubtless their cunnin' plan from the beginning ).
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2017/05/27 15:43:56
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
So “Some chaos daemons ate all the tyranid fleet while not attacking the space marines they hate with a passion, and then just as the defenders are about to finally die some outside huge force appears by chance”.
Totally not a Deus Ex Machina, it's a daemon ex machina and then a primarch ex machina, completely different.
Actually, I'd say that's exactly why. The Blood Angels are HIS toys. HE gets to break them, not some glorified locusts with delusions of grandeur. But this is a discussion for a fluff thread.
Regarding the dreadnought, it doesn't look too bad, how I can imagine it without the tilt and angle. Pretty standard Stompy Robot pose - doesn't matter much to me (Eldar) but a friend likes his dreads so I hope it turns out well for him.
2017/05/27 15:46:21
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Vida wrote: Someone told me it was confirmed that Datasheets were NOT free like AoS. I scanned through the thread but didnt see anything. Has anyone else seen/heard anything like this?
Well, the core rule set (12 pages) is free. This has been said several times here.
It has been also said that the datasheets are downloadable. To what extent, we will see.
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"Heretic Astartes" is just the new, trademarkable "Chaos Space Marines". I wouldn't get too worked up that units with that tag aren't actually Space Marines but are part of a CSM force.
Vida wrote: Someone told me it was confirmed that Datasheets were NOT free like AoS. I scanned through the thread but didnt see anything. Has anyone else seen/heard anything like this?
Well, the core rule set (12 pages) is free. This has been said several times here.
It has been also said that the datasheets are downloadable. To what extent, we will see.
Where? From the off they talked about paid-for books, which are the Indexes. I've seen nothing official about free sheets, just wishlisting.
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2017/05/27 15:59:33
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Yup, just what I figured, these guys look silly as all hell when mixed with the previous marine version. It, looks as bad as any game where I mix RTB01 marines in with 3rd-7th ed marines. Will look even sillier with smurfs having little, big and giant Guilliman.
Be interesting to see if the new stompy Dreads are old stompy Dread pilots in souped-up suits, or Primaris Marines who got sloppy and died ALREADY.
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2017/05/27 16:01:37
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Very cool. Quite Robocop 2. Nice miniature! Legs look they could actually walk!
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2017/05/27 16:04:56
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
Well, not good in the blurry pic from the low angle, but if it's not good I'll be pretty happy honestly given I'm a sucker for Dreadnoughts but don't really want to buy into primaris stuff.
And if it turns out in a better pic to look really good either as is or for conversation potential, I get a good model so I guess win/win?
This annoys me more than anything, lore wise... seriously! Let's give this dreadnought to this new guy over this vet who has fought for like 10 years...
2017/05/27 16:05:07
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
JohnnyHell wrote: "Heretic Astartes" is just the new, trademarkable "Chaos Space Marines". I wouldn't get too worked up that units with that tag aren't actually Space Marines but are part of a CSM force.
Vida wrote: Someone told me it was confirmed that Datasheets were NOT free like AoS. I scanned through the thread but didnt see anything. Has anyone else seen/heard anything like this?
Well, the core rule set (12 pages) is free. This has been said several times here.
It has been also said that the datasheets are downloadable. To what extent, we will see.
Where? From the off they talked about paid-for books, which are the Indexes. I've seen nothing official about free sheets, just wishlisting.
Let's put free datasheets on our GW wishlist.
In the mk3 edition of WMH, the ''datasheets'' per faction (incl. pt costs) were about 20 Euro.
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