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Think they might lean more into animal creature themed Templars. Draconis order Serpentis order Phoenix order Leonis order and so forth

 Overread wrote:
Aye I'd be honestly be shocked if Slaves to Darkness doesn't come out near Warcry. It's the perfect tandem release, esp considering Warcry is the big Summer release for AoS.

Esp since we've already seen that core army models (new harpies/furies) are in Warcry already.

Going to preface this by saying I wouldn't object to that, but is it actually realistic to expect them close together?

Presumably a Slaves to Darkness book would be accompanied by Darkoath kits to get rid of the ugly old Marauders. Warcry will get what, a core box and four warband boxes (or six if they the core ones are available separately), along with said Furies and assblasters. Possibly with repackaged kits in the vein of Kill Teams for the the non-Chaos factions. Add to that new terrain and you have a lot of AoS kits for people to buy.

I don't know if GW is going to follow that up with even more Chaos kits. It seems like they are aware people (and their wallets) need an occasional breather and don't try to overload a short period of time with thematically similar stuff.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They'll probably lean heavily on the Phoenix side of the HIgh Elves and give us Iycefyre Aelves or something.

Maybe GW will show restraint and acknowledge that fyre is already associated with Aqshy.

Hysh can have lyght.

You're assuming that Warcry won't have Darkoath units within it. We've only seen two warbands thus far.

No, I'm assuming that Warcry will get a kit with 6-8 models, which will do you no more good in AoS proper than the Godsworn Hunt.

This stuff is cool to have going by what we've seen to date, but it's skirmish level quantities of miniatures. You can't make an army out of that.

It depends.

Underworlds stuff is all unique character models, fixed pose and no variety coupled to being coloured plastic. They are boardgame models with AoS rules.

Now Warcry seems closer to being a Wargame and the models more dynamic or at least with options. That we've already seen things like the new furies suggests that its closer to a really big focused duel army box that we've seen before. Just far more fleshed out and focused than previous sets.

That means there's a high chance that Warcry itself will be a shorter term product and that many of the kits will simply roll into Slaves of Darkness packaging and boxes at some point and be fully legal to use in the army.


They only need 10 or so models per set to make it the same as most troop boxes for a core game (most only come with 10 models in a box; its actually rare that you get things ilke the Chaos Warriors and knights which have way more in a box).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/02/lore-focus-spites-of-the-sylvanethgw-homepage-post-3/

Preview of the first Sylvaneth Endless Spell...holy crap I like that thing.

It's.....a bit Warmahordes for my liking.

Nothing wrong with the sculpt, just not an aesthetic for me.

It's very Hodeslike - then again its also a pretty typical arching pose for a serpent.

It's the carapace on the head. Not a big fan of that sort of design. Looks too clean to be natural to me.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's.....a bit Warmahordes for my liking.

Nothing wrong with the sculpt, just not an aesthetic for me.

Yep. That was my first thought as well.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's the carapace on the head. Not a big fan of that sort of design. Looks too clean to be natural to me.

It's not natural.

It's a Spite, one of the forest spirits.

Natural or not, the headpiece looks off for Warhammer. My first thought was Warmachine, too.

 Overread wrote:
It depends.

Underworlds stuff is all unique character models, fixed pose and no variety coupled to being coloured plastic. They are boardgame models with AoS rules.

Now Warcry seems closer to being a Wargame and the models more dynamic or at least with options. That we've already seen things like the new furies suggests that its closer to a really big focused duel army box that we've seen before. Just far more fleshed out and focused than previous sets.

That means there's a high chance that Warcry itself will be a shorter term product and that many of the kits will simply roll into Slaves of Darkness packaging and boxes at some point and be fully legal to use in the army.


They only need 10 or so models per set to make it the same as most troop boxes for a core game (most only come with 10 models in a box; its actually rare that you get things ilke the Chaos Warriors and knights which have way more in a box).

Big focused dual army box? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you suggesting the Warcry core box will be anything other than Fantasy Kill Team?

I know I have nothing to offer but gut instinct, but I doubt GW will give us dual use kits with the explicit purpose of being used both for Warcry and Age of Sigmar. I'm sure they won't mind people buying kits for one game for use in the other, and will probably provide rules for AoS for the Warcry models if that turns out to be necessary, which I assume they will based on getting weapon options that are too different from what Marauders have or Darkoath may get. But something about the idea that Warcry is just a vehicle for the release of an AoS army strikes me as off.

zamerion wrote:


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/02/lore-focus-spites-of-the-sylvanethgw-homepage-post-3/

Super Warmahordes, but I can dig it.

Looks very Tyranid. I think I'll like it when I see how people paint it up. Thats another rumor engine solved, though.

Do you suppose those leaves are molded on the base, or just added from that old Warhammer leaf set? They're complicated than the leaves sylvaneth usually have

 Geifer wrote:
Natural or not, the headpiece looks off for Warhammer. My first thought was Warmachine, too.

 Overread wrote:
It depends.

Underworlds stuff is all unique character models, fixed pose and no variety coupled to being coloured plastic. They are boardgame models with AoS rules.

Now Warcry seems closer to being a Wargame and the models more dynamic or at least with options. That we've already seen things like the new furies suggests that its closer to a really big focused duel army box that we've seen before. Just far more fleshed out and focused than previous sets.

That means there's a high chance that Warcry itself will be a shorter term product and that many of the kits will simply roll into Slaves of Darkness packaging and boxes at some point and be fully legal to use in the army.


They only need 10 or so models per set to make it the same as most troop boxes for a core game (most only come with 10 models in a box; its actually rare that you get things ilke the Chaos Warriors and knights which have way more in a box).

Big focused dual army box? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you suggesting the Warcry core box will be anything other than Fantasy Kill Team?

I know I have nothing to offer but gut instinct, but I doubt GW will give us dual use kits with the explicit purpose of being used both for Warcry and Age of Sigmar. I'm sure they won't mind people buying kits for one game for use in the other, and will probably provide rules for AoS for the Warcry models if that turns out to be necessary, which I assume they will based on getting weapon options that are too different from what Marauders have or Darkoath may get. But something about the idea that Warcry is just a vehicle for the release of an AoS army strikes me as off.

I think that people have just jumped on StD too quickly as there are similar models.
And while yes sometimes smaller boxes are linked, or lead to, other books and such. I don’t think it can be an assumed thing.
There would have to be a lot of options in a new tome just for basic guys, to cover all this.


On the Sylvaneth side.
Very glad they are showing stuff now.
I was getting worried that the WH Fest reveals would have a slot wasted by that (wasted In the sense that we already know it’s happening, or was likely to be), I want to see new exciting unknown tomes and codexes! And more info on Warcry and all that

Is LOONCURSE up for pre-order this weekend?

 Alpharius wrote:
Is LOONCURSE up for pre-order this weekend?

Saturday, 1pm Eastern.

Why do they keep making this very cool models that could be new units like the Fyreslayer magma elemental into boring endless spells?

Looks like that Tatzelwurm thing from Privateer Press, almost exactly like it. But cool!

That boxed set is interesting. I assume it is something along the lines of Wrath and Rapture? Tempted!

 Galas wrote:
Why do they keep making this very cool models that could be new units like the Kharadron magma elemental into boring endless spells?

Same reason faction scenery costs no points.

I really like the Sylvaneth stuff from Looncurse, but even at the "half the Looncurse box" prices, the cost still seems bonkers. I think my interests are just too wide to ever be able to justify GW prices.

Maybe if the character goes for enough on eBay I could make the math work out since I don't care a bit for the character.

 Galas wrote:
Why do they keep making this very cool models that could be new units like the Kharadron magma elemental into boring endless spells?

They said these were summoned "like endless spells" so these worms specifically are not. My hope is for an actual unit that is summoned in, but we'll see.

As a sidenote hot dam is that some nice paint & base work.


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GaroRobe wrote:
Looks very Tyranid. I think I'll like it when I see how people paint it up. Thats another rumor engine solved, though.

Do you suppose those leaves are molded on the base, or just added from that old Warhammer leaf set? They're complicated than the leaves sylvaneth usually have

Those are from the current vine kit.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Why do they keep making this very cool models that could be new units like the Kharadron magma elemental into boring endless spells?

Same reason faction scenery costs no points.

Isn't the same thing; they cost points and aren't auto-buy for everyone. Further, if that magma elemental were a unit you can be sure people would be buying more than one. So the sales explanation does not fly in this particular instance (unlike the terrain).

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's the carapace on the head. Not a big fan of that sort of design. Looks too clean to be natural to me.

Never mind being too clean, for something that is supposed to burrow that huge horn on the head would drag on and catch everything on the roof of its tunnel. It just looks silly and counterproductive...

It also doesn't really fit into the spikey, scraggly wild aesthetic of the sylvaneth in general.

I would actually put some vines around that wyrm. It could work.

Well, now, the Sylvaneth Battletome is pretty much confirmed. They can't help but keep acting as if it was still a secret, can they?

 Sarouan wrote:
Well, now, the Sylvaneth Battletome is pretty much confirmed. They can't help but keep acting as if it was still a secret, can they?

I have one word for you - Skaven!

If skaven still don't exist then the Sylvanath battletome can still by a secret too

Are they acting like it is a secret? Sure they have not explicitly announced it but they don't seem secretive to me.

I could swear episode 10 of stormcast had the head of the AoS studio saying that all the factions will get a battletome for 2.0.