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I've got no interest in supporting disney or lucasfilm, so this is just another nail in the coffin for me. And it's been like that for some time. They just saved me 6.99 a month though. A lot of my favorite franchises are now in the hands of companies that I simply do not respect. A lot of the stuff Gina was supposedly fired for was simply re tweets. The world is getting crazy folks, crazier by the day.

Twitter needs to cease existing.

Humanity will be better for it.

Easy as toast to recast the role.

"Cara, good to see you again. Why don't you take your full-face helmet off?"

"This is the way"

"That's cool"

Well, that's a shame. I wanted to see more Cara action in the future. Damn trigger happy Disney.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Easy as toast to recast the role.

"Cara, good to see you again. Why don't you take your full-face helmet off?"

"This is the way"

"That's cool"

Too blunt.

Din walks into Greef's office and waits to be greeted. Greef, sitting in a chair looks up and turns his gaze to Care standing next to him. The camera slowly pans over, reveals her legs and waist, moves up from there and finally shows the back of a Mandalorian helmet. She turns around to face Din. Awkward silence remains as the scene cuts back and forth between Din and Cara, to come to rest on him after what seems to be an uncomfortably long time.

"This is the way," Cara says solemnly.

"This is the way," Din echoes.

The camera switches to Greef.

"What, you let her wear your cultural legacy now, Mando? When did that happen?"

Awkward silence resumes. Then unexpected action breaks loose and the issue is never raised again.

"Cara is that you, what's with the hazmat suit?"

"Caught a bit of Lana's disease, don't want infect anyone."

"That's cool."

(45 minutes later)

"I'm sorry Cara, there's nothing we can do, the disease has reached the critical threshhold."

(takes off hazmat mask)

"You are now doomed to forever look and act like Lana Parrilla"

(Cara looks in mirror)

"I can live with this"

I think Ginas tweets fall pretty far short of the anti-semitism that shes being accused of, likewise I haven't seen anything blatantly racist or transphobic, etc., but theres plenty about what shes said and tweeted thats been tasteless, off-color, and trashy.

I'm not going to go so far as to say she deserved to be fired, but if I was her employer I would have fired her too after that last round of hot takes from her. You're only as good as the company you keep, and shes repeatedly demonstrated herself to not be particularly good company. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to be associated with her at that point.

 Thargrim wrote:
I've got no interest in supporting disney or lucasfilm, so this is just another nail in the coffin for me. And it's been like that for some time. They just saved me 6.99 a month though. A lot of my favorite franchises are now in the hands of companies that I simply do not respect. A lot of the stuff Gina was supposedly fired for was simply re tweets. The world is getting crazy folks, crazier by the day.

There's a reason why some big public figures, policymakers, and news broadcasters tend to put "Retweets do not equal endorsements from this account". Retweeting is considered to be a form of endorsement otherwise.

Eh I can see a time when many actors are going to have to have a Twitter/Social Media Manager in their staff who handle all of their tweets and such.

Much like many of the big names get coached in how to talk to the press, they also need coaching/shielding from things like social media. Learning to express themselves in ways that can't be easily misunderstood/abused or taken way out of context.

Just to totally avoid the chance that something they say or which is said in the heat of a moment or such can be then turned around and used on them to fire them; which might well result in them losing ability to get hired elsewhere in similar roles for a long while.

It's hard to discuss what exactly is going on with this situation without delving too deeply into politics.

Suffice to say this was not an isolated incident and it's not really an instance of her just "oops, my bad I hyperboled". I don't think a staffer would really have saved her from the situation at hand either, as she was active on Parler not just Twitter or Facebook or whatever else.

Cara: (sitting with her back to the camera) "The emperor did nothing wrong, Palaptine was freely elected, Jedi temple was a false flag, the Rebels destroyed Alderan, Operation Cinder was necessary"

(Migs shoots her)

Migs: "What?"

Everyone: "Nothing"

People could just learn to deescalate situations and shut the feth up. Especially if your job is to be a public figure of sorts by getting famous and doing movies.

Just shut the feth up. Don't have a public twitter or facebook or anything. Have a professional one you use to promote your craft. Then shut. the. feth. up. I don't post publicly about anything that is attached to my actual name because my job might find it. And I am not followed by thousands and reported on by the news.

Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence.

I expect Cara Dune will show up in animated stuff with a new voice actor and books. Shes done for live action.

 Overread wrote:
Eh I can see a time when many actors are going to have to have a Twitter/Social Media Manager in their staff who handle all of their tweets and such.

Nah. It's entirely dependent on your genetic lottery results and whether you're in ideological lockstep with the industry. If you meet both criteria, you can post pretty much whatever hateful things you want and neither the platform nor the industry will mind.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Cara: (sitting with her back to the camera) "The emperor did nothing wrong, Palaptine was freely elected, Jedi temple was a false flag, the Rebels destroyed Alderan, Operation Cinder was necessary"

(Migs shoots her)

Migs: "What?"

Everyone: "Nothing"

I think it might be more correct if the Mando said that and Cara objected only to be subsequently sniped by an Imp.

Do people want to get the thread locked?

Because this is how you get threads locked.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Twitter needs to cease existing.

Humanity will be better for it.

Yes, except for one thing. It might be the greatest dumba** detector of all time. If someone can't keep their gak together there, then that's someone I don't want anywhere near customers/clients/fans/etc. It absolutely goes to your ability to behave in public and represent your employer.



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 Lance845 wrote:
People could just learn to deescalate situations and shut the feth up. Especially if your job is to be a public figure of sorts by getting famous and doing movies.

Just shut the feth up. Don't have a public twitter or facebook or anything. Have a professional one you use to promote your craft. Then shut. the. feth. up. I don't post publicly about anything that is attached to my actual name because my job might find it. And I am not followed by thousands and reported on by the news.

Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence.

There are no thoughtcrimes in this country. But she's an IDIOT to be in her position and comport herself in that manner. She should go find a job completely out of the public eye if she doesn't want that to matter. You don't get to have it both ways.

 gorgon wrote:


There are no thoughtcrimes in this country. But she's an IDIOT to be in her position and comport herself in that manner. She should go find a job completely out of the public eye if she doesn't want that to matter. You don't get to have it both ways.

How do you explain Pedro Pascal getting no employment pushback then on his social media posts? It seems you can have it both ways.

What offensive things did Pedro post?

I don't know what you're referring to. But for all we know he's on double secret probation like Carano obviously was. So perhaps he's smart enough to get the message and she wasn't.

Don't defend stupid.

 AduroT wrote:
What offensive things did Pedro post?

We both know I'm not free to post it.


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 gorgon wrote:
I don't know what you're referring to. But for all we know he's on double secret probation like Carano obviously was. So perhaps he's smart enough to get the message and she wasn't.

Don't defend stupid.

Regardless of whether what was posted was actually "stupid", the point is that some people are put on that probation and others aren't depending on in part the narrative.

That’s your narrative of victimization and grievance. You have no idea what’s been said to anyone.

 gorgon wrote:
That’s your narrative of victimization and grievance. You have no idea what’s been said to anyone.

There is definitely a narrative of victimization and grievance but it's not mine. You're free to simply web search for the knowledge to enlighten yourself. Hint... search around and before Nov 3, 2020.

 AduroT wrote:
What offensive things did Pedro post?

I looked it up and stopped reading when the article...(See PM for more)

I'm pretty sure I know the post you're referring to, and it's important to point out that at the same time Pedro posted that, Gina was also her own stuff.

Neither of them were fired at that time.

The difference (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here because that post was from before January 6th.) is that Pedro backed off. He deleted the post in question, acknowledged it when confronted by it, but did not double down, consistently or otherwise, over the past three months.

If it seems at all unfair to you that a company can impose this kind of thing on its employees, I'm sorry, but that debate happened ten years ago. Companies have social media policies, if you identify yourself as an employee of that company you speak for that company whether you want to or not. If anything giving them three months to potentially walk it back reflects well on Lucasfilm compared to what Marvel did to James Gunn - I like to think it represents a difference in their culture or the result of lessons learned but it sadly could just be because they're more reluctant to can actors.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
I'm pretty sure I know the post you're referring to, and it's important to point out that at the same time Pedro posted that, Gina was also her own stuff.

Neither of them were fired at that time.

The difference (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here because that post was from before January 6th.) is that Pedro backed off. He deleted the post in question, acknowledged it when confronted by it, but did not double down, consistently or otherwise, over the past three months.

If it seems at all unfair to you that a company can impose this kind of thing on its employees, I'm sorry, but that debate happened ten years ago. Companies have social media policies, if you identify yourself as an employee of that company you speak for that company whether you want to or not. If anything giving them three months to potentially walk it back reflects well on Lucasfilm compared to what Marvel did to James Gunn - I like to think it represents a difference in their culture or the result of lessons learned but it sadly could just be because they're more reluctant to can actors.

pm'ed.

I think we know what difference you’re getting at, but we all also know the difference between supporting a political party and supporting an extremist group with blood on its hands.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I think we know what difference you’re getting at, but we all also know the difference between supporting a political party and supporting an extremist group with blood on its hands.

Sorry, Bob, but I know you're smarter than that. Also Pm'ed.

Is this really a productive course for the thread? Vaguely alluding to this and that and then PMing around to different people?

This issue goes beyond the scope of what is allowed on DakkaDakka. There's a new forum set up by RiTides that could handle it without the conversation playing out like a game of secret squirrel telephone.

 LordofHats wrote:
Is this really a productive course for the thread? Vaguely alluding to this and that and then PMing around to different people?

This issue goes beyond the scope of what is allowed on DakkaDakka. There's a new forum set up by RiTides that could handle it without the conversation playing out like a game of secret squirrel telephone.

I'm actually done publicly but also didn't know about a new subforum so will check it out. As for secret squirrel telephone, I've never heard of that phrase but...

I made it up on the spot XD

I went and made a thread for this on RiTide's forum. I tried to link to some of the social media that was relevant but I'm not invested enough to hunt it all down. I'd invite specific discussion about the issue to go there so it doesn't clutter things up here where we can't talk about it.

So some thing i have heard.
Several cast member faught to keep her on. They attempted to show her what was wrong with what she was doing, and she should stop it. They tried to teach her.
She made several tweets disparaging trans people(Started with a joke on her pronouns, devolved into that)
Pedro Pascal has a transperson as a sibling. He tried to teach her about trans rights and things to that ilk.
She had so many co-stars and producers go to bat for her.
But she kept doing it. this wasn't just one bad tweet, but a series of them after given multiple chances to change if not just stop.
Soo yeah, she did this to herself.

Right. She was undoubtedly warned but she didn't stop. Had it been 'cancel culture', she would have been out of there the first time. Pascal was probably warned also about politics...but he's been keeping his trap shut where she didn't.

This is the kind of firing where the executive/manager doesn't even slightly bad about it.

I'm sure this will set her up to be a guest 'victim' on certain cable networks however. So she's got that going for her.