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tneva82 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

A.T. wrote:
Preceptories are up to around 1000 sisters each, give or take, but represent a subsidiary convent or a large detachment from an order without a specific fixed size.

This is an important point here. Sisters do not have rigidly defined numbers. There might be anywhere from a few dozen thousand Sisters in the entire galaxy to hundreds of millions at any given time, because GW has never felt the number of Sisters important to define.

You can't see "three preceptories" and automatically think "oh that's 3000 women". GW hasn't given any useful definitions of those, numbers-wise.

Well that 3 preceptories better be three million sisters then.

It's prolly closest to 30,000 and each sister is almost a space marine. People forget that the rogue trader reason for sisters was to keep the space marines in line...

 rayphoton wrote:
Are we really hard arguing the consumption abilities of fantasy psychic space bugs in a universe that's known for being stupidly over the top and blatently ridiculous?

Yes. Yes they are.

Because internet. Lol

pm713 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So the Sisters went to the planet so that the tyranid could come and kill them all? Good plan!

They went there because one of them had a vision. Visions are from the God-Emperor and lead to positive outcomes. So yes, it was a good plan.

Hence the “bad fluff” part.

 Galas wrote:
Biomass=/=Living things.
A planet that is pure rocks with an atmosphere full of CO2 is full of biomass.

No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass

IUPAC definition
Biomass: Material produced by the growth of microorganisms, plants or animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass_(ecology)

The biomass is the mass of living biological organisms in a given area or ecosystem at a given time.

I don't know what else to say…


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Also could someone please update the title of the thread?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So the Sisters went to the planet so that the tyranid could come and kill them all? Good plan!

They went there because one of them had a vision. Visions are from the God-Emperor and lead to positive outcomes. So yes, it was a good plan.

Hence the “bad fluff” part.

 Galas wrote:
Biomass=/=Living things.
A planet that is pure rocks with an atmosphere full of CO2 is full of biomass.

No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass

IUPAC definition
Biomass: Material produced by the growth of microorganisms, plants or animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass_(ecology)

The biomass is the mass of living biological organisms in a given area or ecosystem at a given time.

I don't know what else to say…


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Also could someone please update the title of the thread?

Whilst that definition of biomass is correct, the Tyranids have blatantly been shown to eat much more than just biomass, having long been described as leeching minerals out of the ground and consuming the entire atmosphere.

So naturally the Tyranids make less sense than even a lot of other 40k stuff at face value- if they have no need to consume bio organic matter, why do they not just eat a bunch of undefended, "barren" but organically-rich systems whilst avoiding combat at all costs, and only descend on the life of the Galaxy after eating everything else? We know they can eat non-living organic material.

The only logical conclusions are that the 'Nids are either very time-limited and in a rush, or simply supremely illogical (which goes against the whole idea of an immense intelligence in my opinion).

 Haighus wrote:
The only logical conclusions are that the 'Nids are either very time-limited and in a rush, or simply supremely illogical (which goes against the whole idea of an immense intelligence in my opinion).

I think you are overthinking it. I don't mean that, like, you are thinking about it too much and it's bad, I just mean you are thinking it too much compared to how much I want to think about it ^^. It's perfectly fine to think about it this much. I'd rather not and just have some giant space predator eating planets like they were prey for the cool factor, without thinking about what it would actually entails in real life. The tyranids eating the planet so much that they even suck out the atmosphere has some high cool factor. The tyranid sucking out an empty planet doesn't have much cool factor, quite the opposite, at least to me.

I feel like the tyranid and sisters fighting over an empty lifeless planet doesn't have that cool factor to me, because the stakes just don't feel important. Of course, YMMV, but that's why I don't like much this new fluff ^^.

Not much new shown at warhammerfest, but first painted Sister of Battle, as well as her sprue and what looks like a test print of the Seraphim. In the seminar they said they’re still on track for a 2019 release, and the scenic base sister will still be getting released ahead of the main release (but didn’t say what form that advanced release would be).





Edit: spoilered large photo. Photos aren’t mine, I saw them on Facebook, but I was in the seminar.

If the three month rule applies, I can see them going for August for the preview mini and November for the main release (no new miniatures in December under normal circumstances) based on the ‘still on track’ statement.

Interesting that the "Kopinski" sister will be plastic. She seems more of a collector model. Maybe she'll become a special character in the new codex.

Gah - curved flight stand :(

 stahly wrote:
Interesting that the "Kopinski" sister will be plastic. She seems more of a collector model. Maybe she'll become a special character in the new codex.

I was more surprised that the "Blanche" sister was in resin- the vast majority of GW figures now are plastic, including more limited ones. The only resin I am aware of recently is the Black Library characters, and FW of course.

I can't help but notice the printing lines on the bolter. Painted, but still not a production model.

Good spot!

 BaronIveagh wrote:
I can't help but notice the printing lines on the bolter. Painted, but still not a production model.

Yeah, but the finished sprue and plastic model is in the cabinet.

 Haighus wrote:

 stahly wrote:
Interesting that the "Kopinski" sister will be plastic. She seems more of a collector model. Maybe she'll become a special character in the new codex.

I was more surprised that the "Blanche" sister was in resin- the vast majority of GW figures now are plastic, including more limited ones. The only resin I am aware of recently is the Black Library characters, and FW of course.

Verydian was made when GW thought there was no demand for Sisters and plastic Sisters was just a joke.

Using established artwork for a plastic Sister cuts down on development time and cost and let's them release plastic Sisters as quickly as possible, now that they believe that there is demand.

It's really not much of a mystery.

Keep in mind, Sisters of Battle were originally taken out of continuation (i.e. inventing nothing new) because they sold extremely poorly when they were out the first time. I suspect times and technology have changed enough and GW's selling more minis than ever that they can afford to take a risk --- but Sisters players better buy a ton. If it's a sales flop you'll never see another release...ever, lol.

 Elbows wrote:
Keep in mind, Sisters of Battle were originally taken out of continuation (i.e. inventing nothing new) because they sold extremely poorly when they were out the first time. I suspect times and technology have changed enough and GW's selling more minis than ever that they can afford to take a risk --- but Sisters players better buy a ton. If it's a sales flop you'll never see another release...ever, lol.

The ONLY reason I never started a Sisters army is because of how much I detest pewter miniatures. So much so that I'm actively replacing everything metal from every army I own.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
I can't help but notice the printing lines on the bolter. Painted, but still not a production model.

Hummm nice find. But I wonder it look like atlest some of the model is painted in the new contrast colours. The bolter itself looks like a quick photoshop. Its only on the bolter and handle. The bolter hand doesnt have the rapid prototype lines just the handle and bolter.

I wonder if the metal just didnt look right right and they photoshopped in bolter?

The flight stand D: I just hope they do at least some of them on foot, on the ground.

If they're on flight stands, that'll be the height they'll be required to play them with for tournaments, they won't do a mixture.

Why so much hate for the new flightstand? I haven't seen them in person so I don't understand.

 Elbows wrote:
Keep in mind, Sisters of Battle were originally taken out of continuation (i.e. inventing nothing new) because they sold extremely poorly when they were out the first time.

Source on this?

(Also genestealer cults were even taken out of production, unlike Sisters, and look where they are now!)

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
If they're on flight stands, that'll be the height they'll be required to play them with for tournaments, they won't do a mixture.

Probably will skip them myself then, Unless they are a must have unit. :( Since i only get them for display anyway if not in kill team.

I hear they're pretty fragile for the Space Marine models but maybe the sisters will suit them better.

 Just Tony wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
IMO Blanches artwork is the heart and soul 40k was originally built on, like it or not.

I keep hoping that one day people will realize that art is subjective, and we aren't required to like the same art style they are. Blanche's style is polarizing to say the least. I consider it to be dated and overly busy. It's okay if you like it, but I just don't.

That's fair, but it's still true that his art and style is fundamental to the look of 40k and AoS. He's been providing artwork, art direction and concept art for 30-odd years, after all. You not liking it won't change that.

If they have him doing design work/style work in the background, that's great. What I'd like is for them to stick with their really good artists and give this cat a job simply working background concepts. Have him sit there and design a new race, then let other people do the finished product.

That's exactly how it works. You won't see any of his Kharadron Overlords artwork in any GW publications, but he did design them. When was the last time you saw a new piece of art by Blanche in any GW publication? Instead you'll see brilliant pieces by in-house artists like Kevin Chin or Paul Dainton (the latter being one of my favourite GW artists ever). And nowadays, less and less outsourced crap (which was all over the place when AoS was released).

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Why so much hate for the new flightstand? I haven't seen them in person so I don't understand.

 Elbows wrote:
Keep in mind, Sisters of Battle were originally taken out of continuation (i.e. inventing nothing new) because they sold extremely poorly when they were out the first time.

Source on this?

(Also genestealer cults were even taken out of production, unlike Sisters, and look where they are now!)

Instead of the old flight stands, which have a very secure peg and socket arrangement, the new ones have a tiny (like 1-2mm square) flat, which you’re supposed to just glue to the surface of the model. This is terrible because; a) there is nowhere near enough contact area to get a solid connection and b) means you can no longer easily remove the flight stand, making them an absolute pain to transport. Particularly given that point a) makes them very fragile. It’s a very odd misstep by GW, because they’re normally quite good at considering gaming use for models.


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Oh and c) because of the curve, it’s very difficult to support the model on the stand whilst the glue sets, which compounds a) even further.

I've got £10 sez the Kopinski model will be the new Store Anniversary model.

I have it on good authority one is coming, and seems a decent way to push it, and create extra demand.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Biomass=/=Living things.


A planet that is pure rocks with an atmosphere full of CO2 is full of biomass.

In-consumable biomass, however, which makes it useless for the hive fleets.

Don't tyranids consume water and minerals as well? I remember reading that.

Kindly take the fluff debates elsewhere.

Latest one: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/13/battle-sister-bulletin-part-7-your-first-painted-battle-sistergw-homepage-post-4/

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Why so much hate for the new flightstand? I haven't seen them in person so I don't understand.

- You must glue them, because they don't have a peg, just an uneven end.
- They are flimsy and break easily
- They don't stay glued very well because the contact point is small as gak and can be subject to a lot of stress.

Basically it's like they looked at the old one's good points and went "yeah, those are too good" (they weren't; just in comparison).

GW are really dragging this out with minimal content aren't they.

 Elbows wrote:
Keep in mind, Sisters of Battle were originally taken out of continuation (i.e. inventing nothing new) because they sold extremely poorly when they were out the first time.

Seems unlikely given they had a second wave of model releases.

A.T. wrote:
GW are really dragging this out with minimal content aren't they.

They seem to have lost their bottle when it comes to previews. I mean, the Warhammer Fest that we just had spent a good chunk of its time showing us stuff we've already seen.